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Bellator 170: Tito vs Chael

Discussion in 'MMA Betting Discussion' started by Roads55, Jan 16, 2017.

  1. EzFlyer Titanium Belt

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    so just fyi, kato has never been O1.5. i'm not sure he ever will be with his style. couple that with a one dimensional grappler with no hands? yea, i think kato gets him early.. or hell, i'll take a gracie early sub, haha
     
  2. TimCoreCombat Green Belt

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    I took Chael as part of a two unit basketball parlay. I'm just not impressed with Tito but it's definitely a crap shoot.
     
  3. EzFlyer Titanium Belt

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    i think people are forgetting that chael hasn't fought since 2013, suspended for roids afterwards and pseudo-retired

    i'm hardly touting tito, but yea
     
  4. AxeMurderer Orange Belt

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    I am all over Chael. I just think the mental attitude at this point is what wins this fight. Chael, if you forget about his talking and just his fighting, does not give up. he puts in the work and he does fight the best. He wrestled Bisping not too long ago i believe to a draw. All things considered I think Chael has way more tools and just has more pride than tito does. I hate that its in bellator because it does seem like i am betting on pro wrestling and the result has already been determined. I would not be shocked if Tito won, I just think chael is better at this point in most areas, most important heart and pride, to put in the work before the event to be in the spot to win.
     
  5. mkess101 Not the hero he deserves, but the hero he needs

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    I'm playing Kato/Gracie u1.5+Ward/Daley u1.5

    2u paying +127

    Neither of these should see rd 2. EZ explained Kato/Gracie as well as I could and Ward knows one way to fight and that's rock 'em sock 'em robots.
     
  6. wack3d Silver Belt

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    you might be right but it seems like a total guess to me since he has not fought in over 3 years? there is no way to tell if chael has anything left at this point.. at least tito has fought 3 times and been training while chael have been retired
     
  7. wack3d Silver Belt

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    think i will bet Ward too feels like a 50/50 fight to me
     
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  8. piglord Black Belt

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    i really like ward here. he'll have the size advantage, wrestling advantage, plus he's younger, fresher.

    daley is a small welterweight and looked like shit in his last bout - athletically he looked like he'd lost a step. not surprising given he's 33 and has had over 50 fights (more if you include kickboxing). his style of fighting isn't conducive to longevity either, i think he could be declining.

    i'm happy to hit ward at +130, might even parlay him with kato.
     
  9. MacPherson911 Blue Belt

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    I have Chael in an MMA/NFL parlay along with the Packers and Patriots. Don't fuck this up for me gangster!
     
  10. EzFlyer Titanium Belt

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    He's up to +160..
     
  11. piglord Black Belt

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    let's see where he opens in the uk, won't be until tomorrow.
     
  12. wack3d Silver Belt

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    Tito been training with Parillo and looks like Bisping have been in the camp too

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  13. Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

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    Surprised Gracie is at +245. Kato is not very good.
     
  14. Sham5916910 Silver Belt

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    someone throw me a bone i want a dog to bet on this card. someone tell me why and who please.
     
  15. Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

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    I'm currently on Ward and Gracie. Daley simply hasn't looked that good greatly. If Ward didn't have some wrestling in his back pocket, I could understand the odds. I think Daley is the better striker, but Ward obviously has power and speed. If the fight drags on, he can bring out his wrestling too and at least make Daley gunshy.

    Kato is getting way overrated due to his wins over Schilling. I just don't think he's looked that good. I think the discrepancy on the ground will be just as big as the discrepancy standing, and I honestly wouldn't count on Kato having great takedown defense.
     
  16. rille31 Brown Belt

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    Ralek is gonna kill Kato, He's a G in Gi

     
  17. Sham5916910 Silver Belt

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    lol
     
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  19. weedreference Green Belt

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    After watching the workout video I've decided I'm paying the price for Chael... for 2u at that. He looks into it, and even like he's been improving his skillset. There's zero chance Tito has been doing that. Even vs. a decent version of Tito, Chael should probably be -170, but I just can't see a decent version showing up.
     
  20. Shoulder #29 most average paid MMA bettor on Sherdog.

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    Fuck, should have pulled the trigger on Chael at 1.67, down to 1.52 now.
     

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