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Bellator 170: Tito vs Chael

Discussion in 'MMA Betting Discussion' started by Roads55, Jan 16, 2017.

  1. BluntTrauma21 Broner Brodie / Pulev Posse

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    MOMMY AND DADDY ARE FIGHTING AND NOW AND IM GONNA HAVE TO SPLIT TIME WITH THEM EVERY WEEK. NOW IM THE KID WITH THE BROKEN HOME IN KINDERGARTEN CLASS.








    THIS IS WHAT BELLATOR DOES TO PEOPLE.
     
  2. waiguoren Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Regarding the Tito finish: two seconds before the tap I was saying to my wife (who gave zero shits) that Sonnen was fine and there would be no tap. Uncharacteristically for me, I squealed like a pig when the finish happened. I was really surprised. I'm a grappler and it did look fishy.

    Given the angle, I don't see how it could have been a full-on blood choke, but it doesn't have to be. Budden pointed out a lot of important factors eg Sonnen's long history of quick taps. Also as Budden points out, having a crusher like Tito wrenching on your head in the 1st round HURTS.

    A few days ago I was rolling with a total newbie who grabbed a headlock on the ground and proceeded to squeeze my head with all his strength. No choke but a lot of people would have tapped to that shit because it felt like my jaw was going to break.
     
  3. Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

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    "Stupid and immature move on my part and apologies for that."

    "I've already apologized to EZ and PUO who PMed me and told them I obviously did escalate purposely. I apologize to you as well as it wasn't really fair and me being a dick."

    "I normally jump in and act like a prick"

    Not sure what else you want from me bro. I think you are only reading what you want to read, just like when you acted as though I didn't admit Hilary was a bad play or congratulate the winners. It's all right there. I'll be clear - I can be a prick, I can be condescending, and I can be in the wrong. I know this about myself, and I will admit it. I've been asked to be a mod about four different times now and besides it being a thankless job, I know I'm too much of a prick and a guy that can stir the pot to take on that role. I've literally told admin that.

    All that I am saying is that Budden is not some "poor me" innocent party. He stirs the pot just like me and has a lot of the similar qualities to me. Mods have seen this in the past, and I'm fairly sure he's been warned even before getting dubs. Again, not trying to deflect as I was in the wrong and unfair last night.
     
  4. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Nope, was never warned before getting dubs which Is something I brought up to EZ before, surprise surprise, he just stopped answering me. The great excuse for that one is "I have warnings amongst the mods" which is laughable that's suppose to count when no one ever PMs with a warning and when literally all I did was get mad at condescending comments subtly directed toward me cause I was wrong about something

    #exposeeverything

    Bad enough you don't even get Yellows due to bias, scared as fuck to imagine a world they made you mod

    Thanks for giving clear context though as to why you get special treatments despite being the worst offender in everyone's mind
     
  5. BluntTrauma21 Broner Brodie / Pulev Posse

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    Good stuff O. Everyone can be a dick at times everyone gets into arguments, everybody's been in a spot where things have escalated quicker than expected.

    I've known O for years and he's always been cool to me. Never had a problem with Budden or sbjj either I like them both.

    And as the self acclaimed most liked and popular poster of these forums my opinion is the be all end all so that's that.

    Thanks for the entertainment last night it was fun. Now we should move long.
     
  6. Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

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    I have a long history here without any infractions or problems. I'm in a back and forth with someone who already has yellows. You are already on a thin leash to whereas I'm not. Like I said, I knew this going into last night and that's why I'm apologizing. I wouldn't have been shocked to log on to me with dubs and you banned. Honestly, I wouldn't have been shocked to wake up to dubs and you not banned as well. Anyways, again, apologies from my end and glad you didn't get banned. Believe it or not, I would have fought to get you back if you got banned as I do have regrets about what I did last night.
     
  7. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    I've been here a year and a half and just being honest you have easily been just as hostile and in just as many fights as me. The mod bias has finally gotten to a point where it's fully exposed, giving me yellows and always doing this little false narrative like EZ pulled here claiming I was equal blame when EVERYONE disagrees with that isn't working anymore

    Not saying I've never been at fault, just saying being reasonable you would've deserved and received yellows by now and after last night if the power wasn't in the hands of these people

    But whatever I accept your apology, I've never held grudges and have no interest in doing so
     
  8. Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

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    I wouldn't doubt it. I've been pretty vocal on how different the betting forum is now. It's a completely different atmosphere than how it used to be. There is a lot more fighting than ever, and like I said, I've been in the middle of it too. The difference is that I have years before that where it was honestly a lot more calm and more comradery. Lots of people have left due to the climate and a lot post less than they used to.

    I feel bad that EZ is under fire now. Honestly, this forum has probably been hell to mod lately. I'm almost positive the decision was left with other mods as well. I don't just post in these betting threads - I've helped out quite a few people in other forums like the plat, S+C, Mayberry, etc. To be fair, I can be a prick in those forums as well. I'm sure the mods are giving me leeway due to that, maybe because I'm the one that started the betting threads in the HW, and other issues. If I was in your shoes I'm sure I'd feel similar, but just explaining the reasoning behind it. These forums have always been modded that way even under different mods. If you have a pretty good history, they'll give you benefit of doubt I'm sure.
     
  9. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Thats no excuse, just like me being vocal and/or having fights in the past is no excuse for EZ to keep up this bullshit where even in circumstances like this one where I clearly had every right to respond the way I did, especially after intially trying to avoid this, he says i'm of equal blame. Like I said, people are starting to see through that bullshit and thank God for it cause enough is enough when he has to delete my posts to protect himself.

    He deserves to be under fire. So does that PUO dude. Be friends with them, cool. But when they've used MOD influence as a biased instrument and could care less about painting me in this light as a constant troublemaker when I tried avoiding last night, thats horse shit. I feel like people like me around here, so I don't deserve that garbage.
     
  10. BluntTrauma21 Broner Brodie / Pulev Posse

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    Ez and puo are both good mods puo and RR in the boxing forum and Ez here are probably the coolest most lax mods on the site. I think tbh that's why Budden didn't get banned and O didn't get teh aids last night.

    JB if Ez was that biased then he would've canned you last night. Puo as well. Nobody got in trouble last night other than a scolding and shit got pretty fucking heated. I think that's a good thing, mods who are quick with the hammer are the worst.
     
  11. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Not a good mod imo if he was the sole dissenting opinion as far as who was at fault for last night decide not to explain the self but resort to deleting my posts asking them to do so like EZ did. It's basically a subtle attack on me when a moderator decides to paint me in this light of fault even at times it's clear to literally everyone I'm not. Sorry I don't cry to moderators but rather respond when attacked, but that's not equal blame for anything

    Also never heard of a good mod who taunts you in fucking PMs like
    PUO did when it's a genuine concern the biasedness is getting out of line. Oblivian might as well just do whatever the duck he wants like he did last night when it never has repercussions

    Sorry but that's how I feel, if I get banned for stating that fuck it. and between sbjj today and all the people last night I think people are starting to see that bias. Ffs even Oblivian is saying it's real and how tight he is with mods and admins loll
     
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  12. BluntTrauma21 Broner Brodie / Pulev Posse

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    I hear ya man. All I'm saying is that I don't want either of you guys banned and the fact nobody even got an infraction for saying the shit you guys said to each other is a testament to the mods letting guys hash it out and not being quick on the trigger with the bans which I think is a positive thing.
     
  13. SBJJ Steel Belt

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    EZ is probably one of the nicest guys on the planet. He's a big ass nerd but really is a genuine good guy. The thing is Buddens, You and I are in your face loud when we feel someone is being an ahole. It's like the kid spitting spit wads at the kid in front of him when the teacher isn't looking then the kid turns around and smacks the other. Of course who gets in trouble. It is what it is.

    As for this thread going downhill. I lurked her a bit in the beginning and I honestly think there is more knowledge in here now then before. Yes, it's not pretty. But there is some real knowledge in here
     
  14. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Meh. To ban me just cause I have yellows when I had every right to respond how I did would've been number one bullshit, so hard to see it in the light you are tbh loll but I see where you're coming from
     
  15. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Yeah don't get me wrong I have nothing against EZ, last week in pm after the yellows and even in my posts he deleted I was respectful toward him. But I have to call him out when it's seriously equal to attacking me when youre a mod and post about how I'm just as wrong, which everyone knew I wasnt, and Delete my posts wanting an explanation to that conclusion. Oblivian might as well attack me whenever he feels like it if that's how it goes

    yeah we are, but idk I just don't think that makes it ok to always make me carry this badge of trouble maker when I tried avoiding last night before it escalated. I get it, I can be involved in shit, but this is two weeks in a row where I feel this is undeserved and this particular one it was clear as day to everyone but EZ apparently

    Yeah tbh I think this section is def better than when I first became regular
     
  16. AffectEffect Banned Banned

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    I would say EZ is a saint, but he is a jew.
     
  17. BluntTrauma21 Broner Brodie / Pulev Posse

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    For real Ez is probably one of the nicest dudes on the whole interwebz. I shouldn't out him like this b/c he told me not to post it but I'm gonna anyway. This is Ez irl.

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  18. EzFlyer Titanium Belt

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    i got a haircut since that pic ^^

    and i didn't delete any posts, i didn't "lie" about anything, either, joseph. just cool it, already. i wasn't even here saturday night for the fights, i just read the whole thread this morning and saw both sides being inappropriate and offensive. you've twisted that into me "lying" about things, somehow.

    you've gotta learn to let things go. just my 2c.
     
  19. BluntTrauma21 Broner Brodie / Pulev Posse

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    Haha too scruffy huh, how's Roger been?
     
  20. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Sorry if that wasnt you deleting, mustve been PUO. Just saying, your exact words iirc were equal blame which myself and others vehemently disagreed with cause in all honesty, its pretty easy to see thats just not true at all. If ever I was deserving of my aggression, it was last night when im getting threatening PMs about how I win 10k if Oblivian cant beat me up.

    The last thing I need is an excuse for him to do this whenever he feels like it cause "equal blame" is always passed off on me.
     

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