Boar/Pig/Hog hunting calibers

Smooth bore with rifled slugs.
But I agree that electronic hearing was something else, the first 40 minutes it was an assault on the senses. He was like "Yeah its great until you're on patrol in afghan and you hear an AK rack a round and spend the next 4 hours paranoid as fuck"



So we have a feed spot another hunter has been putting down, he said we could use it. That was where we were up in the tree. The issue was with the full moon they either didn't wanna move around too much, or they had simply been there at dusk and moved on by the time we got there.

If you were interested in trying some baiting, something like this is a popular mix. Put it in burlap bags and hang them from trees and throw some on the ground.

  • Whole Shelled Corn, 40 lb bag
  • Molasses, 12 oz
  • Sugar, 3 lb
  • Apple Juice, 0.5L
  • Anise Oil, 4 oz
  • 5 Gallon Bucket
So I looked up the headset I was using
$800+ for the basic model with no comms included. No wonder it sounded so clear hahaha

https://frontlinesafety.com.au/pelt...MI0cCvisr_8QIVgU0rCh0i-QfSEAQYASABEgLFV_D_BwE

Damn that's quite the headset.
 
If you were interested in trying some baiting, something like this is a popular mix. Put it in burlap bags and hang them from trees and throw some on the ground.

  • Whole Shelled Corn, 40 lb bag
  • Molasses, 12 oz
  • Sugar, 3 lb
  • Apple Juice, 0.5L
  • Anise Oil, 4 oz
  • 5 Gallon Bucket


Damn that's quite the headset.
We have all of those at the farm minus the apple juice and huge stocks of sugar. So I might mix some up and go plant it out on Thursday or Friday.
Thank you for that advice.

And yeah that was his headset that he used in Afghanistan when he was deployed, Air force have changed manufacturers so they just gave them to him as they were old unwanted stock.
 
I've used .243 from a distance, like 150 yds or so. .357, .44 and 30-30 levers from about 25-50 yds. And 5.56 also at about 50 yds
 
What cal do you guys use for pig/boar/hog hunting. I've been going out more often to my parents farm because they now have a huge wild pig problem. Over the last 10 years the population has exploded to the point my mother doesn't wanna go into overgrown paddocks because of the aggressive boars (She's a 70 year old woman I don't blame her).
So my buddy and I have gone out the past weekend and intend to go out every weekend for the next few months. Last weekend we got 12 pigs, A day later a hunter with a gate trap? Pen trap? not sure what you'd call it got 30. This seems to be quite common and it doesn't seem to be denting their population. We don't really have laws about what caliber you can hunt with here in Australia so currently we've been using
.223, a 12 gauge with slugs and a .410 slug to put them down if they're still alive when we get to them.
We have thought about using a .308 but we wonder if that's overkill. We usually get them with a single shot with the .223 but occasionally it'll pass right through and whoever is manning the 12g has to make a 2nd shot quick smart.

My question is, should we drop the 12g and the .410 entirely and go with a 2nd larger calibre rifle or possibly go to a .44magnum or 30-30 lever action?

12 gauge we're using is an Adler Straight Pull shotgun, we mostly brought that in case we ran into a pig up close and had to put it down before it charged us.

The land we're hunting on is very dense scrub with a large dry creek that runs through the entirety, we are usually shooting on a downward angle into the creek. The reason not to use the .308 is more to do with noise levels (And the very low chance of a shot escaping the scrub or ricocheting into a neighboring property) and wanting to keep it quieter for the people who live in the area.

Range of most shots we make are between 50 yards and 300 yards

My experience:
I've killed the most hogs with a 223 loaded with either 77grn matchkings, or 60 grain Sierra flatbase hollowpoints.

I've tried 45-70, 30'06, 308.

I've had more drop in their tracks with the 223 due to shot placement over trusting the other's "stopping prowess"

69grn tipped Matchkings are kinda crap so far.

60grn nosler ballistic tips were good out to 100 yards or so.

My shots are from 20 yards to 170.

Last Friday I hit a monster sow at 161 yards and she ate it and ran off. 223, 69grn tipped matchking.

155grn 30cal Palma bullets aren't good for anything beside head shots.

45-70 was a 86 yard shot and dead nuts right in front of the shoulder, exited behind the rib-cage opposite shoulder. Thing ran a good 30 yards. (gun kicks too damned much)
 
69grn tipped Matchkings are kinda crap so far.

Yeah they surprisingly do not perform close to the 77gr tmk. They fragment too much and lack penetration.

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Yeah they surprisingly do not perform close to the 77gr tmk. They fragment too much and lack penetration.

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I put 2 into a good sized hog on the run.

2nd shot brought it down. Two tiny entrance holes no exits, no discernable blood.

So far the best bullet I've used has to be the 60grn Sierra flatbase hollowpoint.

I think it was designed with a 22-250 in mind, so the jacket is thicker.

Does hogs out of a 223, it penetrates and expands very well.

Had the most drop in their tracks with it.


On paper the 69 tmi sounded great. They're accurate. Maybe better on thinner stuff like coyotes...

Going to try 175grn mk at 2980fps in the 06 this weekend. (Practically a Carlos Hamhock load!)
 
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So we ran a bit behind schedule got out there at 3:30pm. We saw one piglet and by the time I got around there with the shotgun it had vanished into the scrub, we saw a big one run into the creek we got down there and it had done a houdini on us.
We didn't see much else during the day time hours. I was wearing my mates military noise cancelling that use microphones to enhance every other sound you hear. First time wearing them so for the first 40 minutes or so every time my beard stubble rubbed my vest I was flicking the safety off on the 12g.

I got used to it and we decided to grab a spot light off my dad and headed out again at 7:30pm. Night had fallen well and truly by then and a full moon was coming up. We climbed up a tree we had found during the day time hours next to a some feed another hunter who hunts on our property had put out and waited. Moon got higher and it got easier to see, ready to light up the ground with the spot light. I could hear everything I felt like a super hero, I could hear pigs in the creek next to us trotting along (The scrub is so dense there it would be dangerous both falling down into the creek/coming across a boar that's hiding) so we just stuck it out in the tree.

We hung out in the tree and heard a huge big calling off in the distance (as well as wild dogs that started howling, we were a bit concerned by them as they kept getting closer) The big one went under us (we could just make it out in the moonlight) and we though "It'll go to the feed so we'll wait a minute" I took the safety off and we lit up the feed spot. Nothing.... prick had gone under and kept going (The wind was very hard but it was swirling, so it might have picked up our scent and just known we were there).

We heard 3 other animals go under us, they were definitely pigs but other than their walking they made no noise. We were a bit weirded out about how silent all these pigs were tonight usually they're grunting but these ones maybe because of the full moon were apprehensive about making too much noise.

We saw another piglet in the moonlight but didn't want to fire in the hopes that more would arrive.
By about 8:30pm, we could see something in the feed, it had been there for about 15 minutes. So I took the safety off turned the red dot off and braced myself (with thoughts of "If I fire this fucking thing from this angle I won't bee in the tree after") My mate lit the feed up.... It was a fucking possum, annoying but not what we're after. We climbed down the tree at 9pm and started the 20min walk back to the car.
As we went back something very fucking big ran across in front of us on the headset it sounded like a horse (there are horses in that field but they can't get to where we were) we lit it up and saw the big ass of a pig vanish into the scrub. Another missed opportunity.
9:20 we got back to the car, unloaded the guns (In Australia you have to travel with the bolt out of the bolt actions and for other with the magazine or ammo in a separate compartment to the firearm). As we drove back to my mates house (he lives 15 mins from my parents farm, I live 45 mins away) we spotted no joke about 15 pigs/piglets heading into the fields. WE would have loved to light em up but I couldn't get a hold of the guy who owns the land on the phone to get clearance to shoot.

All in all we spent 6 hours out, fired 0 shots and missed a few opportunities. Last weekend we got 12. This weekend we got zero, the thrill of the hunt.
We have decided to ditch the .223 and simply roll with shotguns from now on, the scrub is too thick from the rain right now that the only pigs we are really seeing are 20m in front of us. When summer comes and the grass dies off we'll probably bring out the ranged guns again, but right now it's just not feasible, the grass has grown close to 7 inches in a week.

First emus now pigs. You Aussies sure don’t have much luck against wildlife. <Moves>
 
For what it’s worth I know my cousin in Texas uses 223
Its worth a bit actually. There has been an overwhelming usecase for .223 in this thread and it's good to know we're not using a round that some would consider inhumane.
The guy who fires the .223 has his marksman/sniper accreditation in the Australian Defence Force, so his shot placement is great. Not sure how he would go against Emu's the Australian Defence Force has a poor track record against them.
 
I put 2 into a good sized hog on the run.

2nd shot brought it down. Two tiny entrance holes no exits, no discernable blood.

So far the best bullet I've used has to be the 60grn Sierra flatbase hollowpoint.

I think it was designed with a 22-250 in mind, so the jacket is thicker.

Does hogs out of a 223, it penetrates and expands very well.

Had the most drop in their tracks with it.


On paper the 69 tmi sounded great. They're accurate. Maybe better on thinner stuff like coyotes...

Going to try 175grn mk at 2980fps in the 06 this weekend. (Practically a Carlos Hamhock load!)



I'd be curious for you to try the 62 or 75gr speer gold dots. Massive expansion for .223 and great penetration.

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Also the barnes 53, 55 or 62 tac tx/ttsx.

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Its worth a bit actually. There has been an overwhelming usecase for .223 in this thread and it's good to know we're not using a round that some would consider inhumane.
The guy who fires the .223 has his marksman/sniper accreditation in the Australian Defence Force, so his shot placement is great. Not sure how he would go against Emu's the Australian Defence Force has a poor track record against them.

The biggest thing with .223 is round choice. It can make a significant difference.
 
@RerouteToRemain

Have you any experience shooting subsonic ammo? I'm talking 308 stuff?

Was it worth a shit, or like using a heavy air rifle?

A buddy want to sell me an old rifle of his, (looks like this)
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Was thinking, (if the price wasn't too bad) I'd have the barrel cut back to say 20 inches, have it threaded and transition my D760 night scope to it as a dedicated night rig.

Subsonic would make it more quiet. I guess. Not sure if its worth it. Its one of those things to muse over while at work........

Reality is I could get it and not hog hunt ever again, or not in years or any number of non-use scenarios.... Gnome say-n?
 
@RerouteToRemain

Have you any experience shooting subsonic ammo? I'm talking 308 stuff?

Was it worth a shit, or like using a heavy air rifle?

A buddy want to sell me an old rifle of his, (looks like this)
12134_0.jpg


Was thinking, (if the price wasn't too bad) I'd have the barrel cut back to say 20 inches, have it threaded and transition my D760 night scope to it as a dedicated night rig.

Subsonic would make it more quiet. I guess. Not sure if its worth it. Its one of those things to muse over while at work........

Reality is I could get it and not hog hunt ever again, or not in years or any number of non-use scenarios.... Gnome say-n?

Suppressed bolt action rifles 308 or 300 blk are about the quietest hosts you can get besides a .22.

Now the big question for you on that rifle is what the twist rate is. Subs like fast twist, minimum of 1:10 out of a 308.

From what I've seen only 2 subsonic bullets are worth a shit with one being quite a bit better from the research I've done.

Hornady 190 gr sub x

https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/30-cal-.308-190-gr-sub-x#!/

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The better one is discreet ballistics selous, a lot of hogs and deer have been taken with these

https://discreetballistics.com/shop/308win-selous-machined-expander-projectiles-160gr/

They also sell loaded ammo


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271 lb hog
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An interesting thing these do on hogs, the phenomenon is being called Prairie dogging. Getting stuck backwards on the opposite side without exiting.

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Suppressed bolt action rifles 308 or 300 blk are about the quietest hosts you can get besides a .22.

Now the big question for you on that rifle is what the twist rate is. Subs like fast twist, minimum of 1:10 out of a 308.

From what I've seen only 2 subsonic bullets are worth a shit with one being quite a bit better from the research I've done.

Hornady 190 gr sub x

https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/30-cal-.308-190-gr-sub-x#!/

300-blk-subx.png


The better one is discreet ballistics selous, a lot of hogs and deer have been taken with these

https://discreetballistics.com/shop/308win-selous-machined-expander-projectiles-160gr/

They also sell loaded ammo


216925786_1945564325592923_3534387976142395869_n.jpg

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IMG_4550.jpg

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271 lb hog
215457005_1941775209305168_2311627042774097443_n.jpg


An interesting thing these do on hogs, the phenomenon is being called Prairie dogging. Getting stuck backwards on the opposite side without exiting.

203668156_1926729487476407_3344010755948692694_n.jpg

201464877_1922985394517483_7857605870924249305_n.jpg

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Its a 10 twist.

My theory on anything subsonic, is whether its a 308, 300BLk, 300 Win Mag. etc.. Once its sub its like going hunting with the equivalent of a 45ACP. A bloop gun.

By brother had a customer who had him build up a special sub sonic 308. It was nice, real quiet, could shoot in the backyard.

3 months later the guy had it undone. Said the impact of the bullet was enough to scare the other pigs off and the trajectory was complete shit. So he went back to regular velocity.

Cheapest is to stick the AR I'm using now...
 
Its a 10 twist.

My theory on anything subsonic, is whether its a 308, 300BLk, 300 Win Mag. etc.. Once its sub its like going hunting with the equivalent of a 45ACP. A bloop gun.

By brother had a customer who had him build up a special sub sonic 308. It was nice, real quiet, could shoot in the backyard.

3 months later the guy had it undone. Said the impact of the bullet was enough to scare the other pigs off and the trajectory was complete shit. So he went back to regular velocity.

Cheapest is to stick the AR I'm using now...

Yes the impact and the hog(s) squealing will spook the hogs but from the subsonic thermal videos I've watched they also settle down faster and may lead to more opportunities.

With those discreet selous rounds you will 100% kill hogs and it will definitely perform better than any subsonic pistol round. Trajectory is going to be what it is but if you have a reticle with enough subtensions you can get some great holds and that discreet round will kill at distance. That 761 fps impact velocity was improvised for 500 ish yards. They say it will kill at that range if you can account for drop and drift.

Do you have a spare AR or upper? Do you have a pistol braced lower or sbr?

You could always just swap a barrel to 300 blk.

With 300 blk you can use subs or supers.

110 tac tx is king of 300 blk supers, they will expand at 300+ yards.

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My 300 blk with Nomad L and subs sounds damn good. Very comfortable to shoot without ear pro.

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You could have a mag(s) of each. Come across a just a couple hogs you could go subs and if there are a bunch you can go supers.

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So some good news, my sisters friend (who also hunts on the property and has been putting feed out to lure the pigs) checked his camera and at 8:48 the night we were sitting in the tree 10 meters from the camera and saw that large pig go under us, he can confirm it was a huge boar, 5 - 8 inch tusks he estimates and roughly 120kg (264lbs). I for one am glad we were up the tree.
 
So some good news, my sisters friend (who also hunts on the property and has been putting feed out to lure the pigs) checked his camera and at 8:48 the night we were sitting in the tree 10 meters from the camera and saw that large pig go under us, he can confirm it was a huge boar, 5 - 8 inch tusks he estimates and roughly 120kg (264lbs). I for one am glad we were up the tree.

Yeah that's not something you want charging at you.
 

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