Brady > Belichick ?

[surgeyou1]

Give Bellicheat the same roster Tampa Bay has and just replace Brady with Cam Newton

Give Brady the same roster as NE just replace Bellicheat with Arians

Bellicheat would be 15-1 and far an away the superbowl favorites next week.................. and Brady would be maybe 2-14 with New England.

Guess who made the Patriots shit roster?

 

[Aegon Spengler]

 

[Morning Star]

Thanos would have won if he had 7 Infinity Stones.

 

[PEB]

I know there are a lot of Belichick haters on this forum now but Belichick is still a great coach. Patriots problem is the owner Bob Kraft he is really tight with his money.

The team is getting old instead of trying to sign top picks they go out an find people who they can sign for cheap. Belichick also has the ability to look angry all the time. But Belichick takes tons of pressure off of players by taking heat from media.

Bill will again take heat from media over Tom Brady Superbowl win. Few coaches in the NFL get put in such a bind an fight off questions then Bill.

Tom still owes a lot from Bill such as Toms efforts to lean teams defensive strategy and weaknesses few spend more time going over video then Bill an Tom. As one player put it the hard part with Bill as coach is the practices not the game itself.

EDIT: Bill would have pulled Tyrann Mathieu out of the game in the 1st quarter. There was no way Bill lets someone lose it on his team even if it means risking losing a game.

 

[skombolis]

It seems like a lot of people answer this as if one owes their success to the other. Bill is a great coach, Brady is a great QB, so if course they complimented each other.

It's incredibly hard for a coach to keep winning in the playoffs for decades so seeing the Pats have a drop-off doesn't take away what Belichick accomplished.

And it's not a surprise Tampa went from the most penalized team to 5th least penalized with Brady. The guy is the consummate professional and makes everyone around him better and knows how to win.

 

[robertcop2]

Give Bellicheat the same roster Tampa Bay has and just replace Brady with Cam Newton

Give Brady the same roster as NE just replace Bellicheat with Arians

Bellicheat would be 15-1 and far an away the superbowl favorites next week.................. and Brady would be maybe 2-14 with New England.

Dumbass halfwit post. You are just saying that Brady is also smarter than BB, because BB built that shitty roster and Brady left for a better team. Either way you lose.

 

[SuperHoss]

I know there are a lot of Belichick haters on this forum now but Belichick is still a great coach. Patriots problem is the owner Bob Kraft he is really tight with his money.

The team is getting old instead of trying to sign top picks they go out an find people who they can sign for cheap. Belichick also has the ability to look angry all the time. But Belichick takes tons of pressure off of players by taking heat from media.

Bill will again take heat from media over Tom Brady Superbowl win. Few coaches in the NFL get put in such a bind an fight off questions then Bill.

Tom still owes a lot from Bill such as Toms efforts to lean teams defensive strategy and weaknesses few spend more time going over video then Bill an Tom. As one player put it the hard part with Bill as coach is the practices not the game itself.

EDIT: Bill would have pulled Tyrann Mathieu out of the game in the 1st quarter. There was no way Bill lets someone lose it on his team even if it means risking losing a game.

BB is a great coach, no matter how many more rings Brady gets. This is still a ridiculously bad take. If not for Kraft, the Pats would have moved to St. Louis. There is NO BIGGER Pats fan Kraft. He is NOT cheap.

BB is a GREAT, GREAT coach, but abysmal drafter. Though there is an element of luck for sure, there is no way you can justify BB's poor record in the 1st and 2nd draft rounds.

Check out projected Salary cap for 2021 and 2022. Pats have 2nd most projected cap space in 2021 and #1 in 2022. The smart teams plan for the future and game the draft by getting more choices or trading picks for proven players with favorable contracts. That is the smart move for smart teams including the Pats. Pats were down this year, but woe to those who count them out!

 

[ExitLUPin]

This shit been done but if Tompa goes b2bs, 3 peats or has a dynasty like 2-3 in 5 years, Billy boi and Tom haters will have to commit mass sepukku

 

[n...not crazy]

BB is a GREAT, GREAT coach, but abysmal drafter. Though there is an element of luck for sure, there is no way you can justify BB's poor record in the 1st and 2nd draft rounds.

Joejuan Williams and N'Keal Harry. That's just embarrassing. Sony Michel at least did something but he was still a dumb pick. These were all pretty crushing to the team.

 

[Juzie]

This shit been done but if Tompa goes b2bs, 3 peats or has a dynasty like 2-3 in 5 years, Billy boi and Tom haters will have to commit mass sepukku

Brady is 5 years older than Silva was when he got KTFO by Weidman and almost a decade older than Fedor when he started getting smashed by cans. Yet he just murdered the best QB of the next generation in his prime with a weaker team. The hate game is over, you just look like a fucking idiot now if you don't think Tom's the GOAT lol.

 

[Streeter]

Guess who made the Patriots shit roster?

No shit. I'm not speaking to BB prowess as a GM but he genius as a coach.

 

[surgeyou1]

No shit. I'm not speaking to BB prowess as a GM but he genius as a coach.

No one is debating his genius as a coach. He's the GOAT HC. But Bill the GM has hurt Bill the HC the last 5 years.

If I had to break down the dynasty between them, I'd say it's 60% Brady and 40% Bill

 

[HollaBack]

brady will prob get 10 superbowls he is now in his prime so hes got some years left, he will play until he knows he just isnt good anymore

 

[Madmick]

 

[TeTe]

Belichick as a head coach without TB12, 8 seasons, 1 playoff appearance, 1 playoff win, 6 losing seasons. 3 years as a head coach in New England without Brady, 2 losing seasons, no playoff appearance.

Belichick with Brady, 18 seasons, 18 winning seasons, 17 playoff appearances, 13 AFC championship games, 9 SB appearances, 6 wins.

Brady without Belichick, 1 season, 3 playoff wins, 1 NFC championship appearance, 1 SB appearance, SB win to be determined. At age 43.

If you want to split hairs... Bill still has more rings than Brady at 8

 

[TeTe]

lol @ these 4th grade book report level arguments and stats.
Feel free to name a better coach.

Both are great because they worked together.

Exactly, Brady is successful with the Pats and Tampa in part because of what he learned from Bill.

 

[Kaybee]

Patriots problem is the owner Bob Kraft he is really tight with his money.

What? That's not even remotely true

Bill himself admitted that the team is where it is right now because they didn't draft well lately and made many short-sighted moves over the past few years. He is still the GOAT coach, but even GOATs fuck up especially when it is something that is their secondary duty.

 

[ThereIsNoSpoon]

If you want to split hairs... Bill still has more rings than Brady at 8

Yeah, splitting hairs, 8 years without Brady and one playoff win, zero division titles and 6 losing seasons.

He’s a glorified Matt Patricia without Brady. A defensive guru who was fired after one winning season in Cleveland, was 5-13 with Bledsoe, and yet won the SB when Brady became the starter that year. In 2007 the Pats were one stop from becoming 19-0, broke every offensive record on an incredibly tough schedule, while without Brady, almost the exact same team missed the playoffs while getting blown out by every good team played on a far easier schedule.

As soon as Brady went to another team and Cam couldn’t make gold from the shit Bill surrounded him with like Brady use to, the Pats were one of the worst teams in the league, and missed the playoffs for the first time, since guess when? 2008 when Brady didn’t play. Of course, while on another team Brady won a SB.

Brady went on to Kansas with a receiving core of Edelman, Hogan, Patterson and Dorsett and scored 37 points in a shootout with Mahomes. That’s more impressive than anything Manning or Rodgers have done in their entire careers. And that was only one of his 10 conference championship wins.

 

[Phlog]

I never cared for Brady but seeing his after game performance, throwing the Lombardi, cap backwards, fronting, drunk, clearly absolutely loving it I'm a fan now. Can't hate on the GOAT letting his hair down.

Tom Brady keeps winning sold his properties in New York and Massachusetts for a combined 63 million dollars and made around 15 million on the sale all within the last month. He's moving to Florida it seems I guess they are keeping him around another year at least.

There is no way that man doesn't play several more years there. The love everyone in that organisation has for him, the experience he had of being given a green light to coach the team. It looked like he enjoyed this one more than any other, it was a man knowing he's in exactly the right place. I bet Edleman plays for em next year

Players are gonna play for the Bucs at a cut price rate. Next year chiefs Vs Bucs Superbowl is gonna be absolutely crazy.

3 Bucs linemen were div II or III, they have built that shit from incredibly sound foundations. Its really impressive.

 

[MMAfan9350]

Bill is a defense guy, he has little to nothing to do with the offense. Brady proved he can win somewhere else, he's not just a system QB.

Most people knew this years ago but this silences the last remaining holdouts. Or at least makes them look even more like mongoloids when they argue otherwise, which is impressive.