International Canada’s First Prime Minister John A Macdonald Statue Torn down today

Notice how only the West is conditioned to feel guilty about something everyone did? This kind of collective guilt is weakness.

The Canadian government (that admires communist dictators) is now saying Canada has no identity or culture.



Become a melting pot or succumb to tyranny and become slaves.


So what if it only the West, that doesn't change the fact that these things happened. Are you saying that because the East does shit and doesn't apologize for it, that we should also do shit or atleast not apologize and try to make things right? Extending this line of argument, since China is committing genocide, we can too?

Why should natives melt into the colonizing culture? They didn't ask anyone to come here. Anyone who doesn't like Natives retaining their culture can always leave and go back to where they came from.
 
How far back shall we go? If it's not like that now why does Ottawa have to keep paying into a black hole with tax payers money that goes into chief's pockets while they block any type of investment time and time again?

Let's tear down Canadian prime minister statues! that will fix everything.

Colonialism and these residential schools weren't long ago at all. You act like this is ancient stuff. The attitudes that created these residential school still live amongst some Canadians, evidenced by the fact that some people waht to sweep everything under the rug and minimize its impact.
 
So what if it only the West, that doesn't change the fact that these things happened. Are you saying that because the East does shit and doesn't apologize for it, that we should also do shit or atleast not apologize and try to make things right? Extending this line of argument, since China is committing genocide, we can too?

Why should natives melt into the colonizing culture? They didn't ask anyone to come here. Anyone who doesn't like Natives retaining their culture can always leave and go back to where they came from.
So what? It's deliberately being done to weaken the West and is a form of psychological warfare.

Why should they melt into a technologically advanced society? Because it's advantageous to do so.

They are weak and living in a land filled with resources. Easy pickings for any superpower.

"Our lives are in the hands of the Great Spirit,” "We are determined to defend our lands, and if it is His will, we wish to leave our bones upon them.” - Tecumseh

God obviously felt native culture needed some changes... all throughout North, Central and South America.

Rather than be used in the Marxist agenda they can join forces, like they did on numerous occasions, with a group of people that are also determined to defend the land from communism and any other kind of tyranny.


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Bulgarians - Wikipedia
The population of Bulgaria is descended from peoples of vastly different origins and numbers, and is thus the result of a "melting pot" effect. The main ethnic elements which blended in to produce the modern Bulgarian ethnicity are:

Thracians - a native ancient Balkan Indo-European people, from whom cultural and ethnic elements were retained;
Early Slavs - an Indo-European group of tribes who migrated from Eastern Europe into the Balkans in the period of 6th-7th centuries CE and imposed their language and culture on the local Thracian, Roman and Greek communities.
Bulgars - a semi-nomadic conglomerate of tribes from Central Asia who arrived in the 7th century CE, federated with the local Slavic and Slavicized populations, organized the early medieval Bulgarian statehood and bequeathed their ethnonym to the modern Bulgarian nation, while eventually assimilating into the local Slavic population.

The development of Old Church Slavonic literacy in the country had the effect of preventing the assimilation of the South Slavs into neighbouring cultures and it also stimulated the development of a distinct ethnic identity. A symbiosis was carried out between the numerically weak Bulgars and the numerous Slavic tribes in that broad area from the Danube to the north, to the Aegean Sea to the south, and from the Adriatic Sea to the west, to the Black Sea to the east, who accepted the common ethnonym "Bulgarians". During the 10th century the Bulgarians established a form of national identity that was far from modern nationalism but helped them to survive as a distinct entity through the centuries.
 
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Colonialism and these residential schools weren't long ago at all. You act like this is ancient stuff. The attitudes that created these residential school still live amongst some Canadians, evidenced by the fact that some people waht to sweep everything under the rug and minimize its impact.
The attitude of assimilation? The attitude of creating a cohesive fighting unit?
 
If it were China Japan Russia or any of the superpowers of the past that colonized Canada there wouldnt have been any natives left to even put in residential schools. So maybe before we condemn our own country maybe we should take a step back and think, every country has a dark history.
 
The attitude of assimilation? The attitude of creating a cohesive fighting unit?
Assimilation can also = genocide, when the dominant culture tries to impose its hegemony onto minorities. Coerced or forced assimilation is genocide, because the intent is to wipe out the indegenous groups or minorities, like what Han China is doing.
 
So what if it only the West, that doesn't change the fact that these things happened. Are you saying that because the East does shit and doesn't apologize for it, that we should also do shit or atleast not apologize and try to make things right? Extending this line of argument, since China is committing genocide, we can too?

Why should natives melt into the colonizing culture? They didn't ask anyone to come here. Anyone who doesn't like Natives retaining their culture can always leave and go back to where they came from.

because majority rules thats why. even among colonised countries the newer people themselves have no real connection to the countries previous history.

mexican majority states in america will eventually ditch the older anglo saxon culture in favour of their own, not the cherokee culture. and even mexican culture is not even their own infact its the more native mexicans who have thebfastest growing birthrate so perhaps one day the colonizer culture will one day be abolished.



your last statement sounds no different to a right winger.
 
They had a John A MacDonald statue in Charlottetown PEI that was controversial, it was sitting on a bench so you could sit down and take a selfie with it. People rallied to have it taken down for a while but when the 215 kids were found buried in that residential school in BC it gave them the excuse to pack it up and put it into storage.
 
because majority rules thats why. even among colonised countries the newer people themselves have no real connection to the countries previous history.

mexican majority states in america will eventually ditch the older anglo saxon culture in favour of their own, not the cherokee culture. and even mexican culture is not even their own infact its the more native mexicans who have thebfastest growing birthrate so perhaps one day the colonizer culture will one day be abolished.



your last statement sounds no different to a right winger.

Saying majority rules is a lot like saying might makes right, so minorities have to fall in line.

If one day native Mexicans dominate the South Western US, then awesome, because they are indegenous folks. It would be great to see the indegenous people become the majroity in North America again.

No my last comment is nothing like a rightwinger's because rightwingers always want their race to reign supreme, while I always want indegenous people to be the dominant culture in their lands.
 
Assimilation can also = genocide, when the dominant culture tries to impose its hegemony onto minorities. Coerced or forced assimilation is genocide, because the intent is to wipe out the indegenous groups or minorities, like what Han China is doing.

thats always happened.

at some stage it will get to the point of no return for the uighurs, frankly who even cares.
 
thats always happened.

at some stage it will get to the point of no return for the uighurs, frankly who even cares.

Some people care. Just because you don't , does not mean others think like you. You could say the same thing for slavery and the holocaust, i.e. "who cares".
 


Sad to see.

There were over 300 bodies of kidnapped and murdered aboriginal children being discovered at former Residential Schools.

Now they’re taking down Founding Fathers of Canada.

Is there still George Washington Statues up in America?

Are those coming down?

I’m an immigrant by the way but l love Canada.

I came here when I was 2.

Why Are those people Cheering?

He died a long time ago. How will this improve Their lives?

You being an immigrant mean you should probably inform yourself with your nation history. I know here in the US, George Washington was anti Black, a slaver, etc so I don’t honor the guy.
 
Cultural genocide is backdoor slow motion genocide. The end result is the same, the extinction of a distinct race and culture. The residence school system and forced assimialtion of indegenous people was to wipe them out. The Han Chinese are doing the same with the Uyghurs.

The word "genocide" should not be used in discussion of Canadian residential schools. The intention was never to erase Indigenous people or culture, but rather to give the Indigenous the tools they needed to thrive in Canadian society and culture going forward. This was a "road to hell paved with good intentions" scenario.

Obviously, in practice the conditions were horrendous, a lot of atrocities were committed, but the Catholic church holds the blame more so than MacDonald.

People can hate residential schools all they want - and rightfully so - but genocide is not the right word.
 
Saying majority rules is a lot like saying might makes right, so minorities have to fall in line.

If one day native Mexicans dominate the South Western US, then awesome, because they are indegenous folks. It would be great to see the indegenous people become the majroity in North America again.

No my last comment is nothing like a rightwinger's because rightwingers always want their race to reign supreme, while I always want indegenous people to be the dominant culture in their lands.

mexicans are not indigenous people. alot of mexicans who went to america for work come from the north where they are a more mestizo people, unlike the south...so no they not deserve some special priviledge but as they have the highest birthrates its their call.

and yes minorities have to fall in line. the issue with native north americans is their numbers arent high enough to demand cultural dominace and i would bet most arent all that native either.

historically theres always been a dominant culture, religion, empire etc etc. theres bothing wrong with showing respect and learning about certain things but then you are just teaching or ramming a history down the throat of people who have little connection to canadian natives.

im not saying native culture should be swept under the rug, not at all. i see strong paralels between australia and canada in that regard.
 
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No my last comment is nothing like a rightwinger's because rightwingers always want their race to reign supreme, while I always want indegenous people to be the dominant culture in their lands.

Which Indigenous group do you want to be the dominant culture in Canada? There is the Inuit, Cree, Iroquois, Blackfoot, Nakoda, Algonquin, Sarcee, Metis and more.
 
Assimilation can also = genocide, when the dominant culture tries to impose its hegemony onto minorities. Coerced or forced assimilation is genocide, because the intent is to wipe out the indegenous groups or minorities, like what Han China is doing.

The intent is to assimilate not kill off the people. They needed to learn English and get a more advanced education.

They retain some of their culture and it even influences the dominate culture, like symbols for example.

If I were to emigrate to a new country and assimilate to the culture and learn the local customs, am I committing self genocide?

Saying majority rules is a lot like saying might makes right, so minorities have to fall in line.

If one day native Mexicans dominate the South Western US, then awesome, because they are indegenous folks. It would be great to see the indegenous people become the majroity in North America again.

Like doom said, Mexicans aren't indigenous and they speak a colonial language.

Indigenous people will never become the majority because the left keeps increasing immigration. "A historic number of newcomers." It's so bad aboriginals are leaving the cities.

How can you decolonize when you're colonizing the crap out of the country?
 
If it were China Japan Russia or any of the superpowers of the past that colonized Canada there wouldnt have been any natives left to even put in residential schools. So maybe before we condemn our own country maybe we should take a step back and think, every country has a dark history.

There are probably countless groups we will never hear about because they were completely wiped out by the group that conquered them. Even the dominant Indigenous groups in Canada likely became the dominant groups by wiping out competing tribes. It is absurd for people today to be so over-dramatic over atrocities committed in the past that they had absolutely nothing to do with.

If we want to play this ridiculous blame and shame game and make people feel guilty for things that happened before they were even born, then Indigenous people should feel guilty for the atrocities committed by their ancestors who certainly aren't innocent when it comes to the murder, rape, slavery, torture and humiliation of rival tribes.

It is rather convenient that the people who whine about "teaching the real history" want to romanticize Indigenous culture and leave out the fact that they are just as guilty of the same atrocities that Europeans committed.
 
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The word "genocide" should not be used in discussion of Canadian residential schools. The intention was never to erase Indigenous people or culture, but rather to give the Indigenous the tools they needed to thrive in Canadian society and culture going forward.


They were 100% created to erase indigenous culture.
 
The word "genocide" should not be used in discussion of Canadian residential schools. The intention was never to erase Indigenous people or culture, but rather to give the Indigenous the tools they needed to thrive in Canadian society and culture going forward. This was a "road to hell paved with good intentions" scenario.

Obviously, in practice the conditions were horrendous, a lot of atrocities were committed, but the Catholic church holds the blame more so than MacDonald.

People can hate residential schools all they want - and rightfully so - but genocide is not the right word.
Wrong based on quotes from John A MacDonald himself.
 
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