Crime Champagne Socialist Cheers on Rioters... Until They Come to HIS Neighborhood

Since he is inciting Arson can he charged?
It's a very weak case. The US has strong free speech protections. You would need a pretty clear case of incitement to bring charges, let alone get a conviction. I can't recall the last time someone was even charged with incitement.

Probably the strongest example of potential incitement in recent years was when Mike Brown's stepfather screamed at supporters to "burn this bitch down!" while speaking at the scene of which turned into a riot. Police looked strongly at charging him, but ultimately did not. That was a MUCH stronger case because Louis Head (Brown's stepfather) was at the scene of the crime and had a great deal of influence over his audience, which followed his direction. If he had urged calm instead, a lot of people likely would have followed his direction, although that would not have guaranteed that some people might have rioted anyway.

In Palmer's case, he's not referring to a specific time or place, he is not especially influential on the people who were already rioting, he was more cheering on than inciting. If you charged him, you'd basically have to charge every knucklehead on Twitter, which simply isn't feasible. While I certainly do not like statements like the ones that Palmer made, and especially that Head made, speaking as an American, I do prefer that our country err strongly on the side of free speech and I think it would be a slippery slope if we started restricting speech more in this country.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/12/02/justice/ferguson-protests-investigation/index.html
 
This country is so divided it's disgusting.


Yeh...but 98% of people thought that cop murdered that man and needed to be arrested. And probably 75% think the scum in the streets are terrorists and need to be stopped by any means necessary
 
You see this a lot, its always fairly wealthy, middle class white people who sub-consciously, are very guilty that they have led such a sheltered and comfortable life. I have a couple of friends like this, they are the first to jump on ANY incident that they can get on a social justice soapbox over......they are also both white, middle class, pretty well off guys who have always lived in neighbourhoods that fit the same bill. None of them have ever lived in a multi-cultural environment, and its that knowledge that drives them to constantly side with the minority in any situation to try and prove to themselves that they're worldly and accepting of cultures they have never been around.

These guys don't have any non-white friends, not because they're racist, but because Wales isn't very ethnically diverse. The areas that are, are obviously the major cities and the poorer areas of those cities. Place my two friends have never been nor have any need to go to - they just aren't around other races enough to have them as friends. And they are very guilty about that. Over-compensating.
 
You mean he didn’t want the arsonists....I mean looters...I mean peaceful protestors in his area?

I’m shocked.

Let them peacefully protest in his gated community! Hey hey! Ho ho!
 
I don't know who this person is, and I'm only judging him from what I'm being told he said in the OP. But I have to wonder how anybody could have such a deficit of empathy that they cannot feel the terrible outcome of rioting until it's happening at their house? Was he under the impression that all the property being damaged belonged to bad-guy police officers and other villains? Certainly he understood that good people were losing their livelihood.

Unfortunately, no. Most of social media right now can't see that.
 
These are the same people who are pro Big Government yet anti Police. Stop and think about that for a second.
 
He's just a typical entitled piece of shit like Lebron.
 
Since I'm kindof bothered by the lack of knowledge on the term Socialism by my Murican Sherbro's, here are a few historic pointers some of you may not have been aware of:

Not only did Marx' and Engels magazine publish anti-semitic propaganda back in the day, Marx himself wrote about certain peoples that he would eradicate since the got no right to exist in the aftermath of the revolution. Socialists per se are no less racist than conservatives, they never were. The fuckin' Nazis were socialists, their party was called NSDAP (= "National-Socialist-Party of the German Worker"). The conclusion of this is that Socialism as a term was used so broadly in history by so many different political agendas, that using the term as a description today is basically useless. It could be the moderate social democrat party of Denmark or Stalinism.

About the guy in the youtube-video from OP. He's not a socialist, he probably doesn't even know what the term means, like most people on here. And he's also no lefty, considering his choice of his topics or what kind of people he attracts. Most likely he's one of those many alt-right figureheads that all work the same angle with acting impartial and driven by objectivity alone.

@Topic: That reporter is a dumbass and I completely understand conservatives, fascists, centrist or even socialists gloating about the irony and stupidity.
 
You mean he didn’t want the arsonists....I mean looters...I mean peaceful protestors in his area?

I’m shocked.
I guess he doesn't want to overthrow civil society...I mean, contribute to COVID-19 herd immunity...I mean, fight institutionalized racism...I mean, remember George Floyd.
 
Divided as in agree or disagree in looting/rioting? Than yes.

Because everyone agrees Floyd’s death was unacceptable.
Yes everyone agrees on that. There are many people in America that hate "the other side".

We are divided. If we were united we wouldn't have people destroying their own country.
 
Good fuck this bitch. They should have burned down his home like he was asking for others to burn down other buildings. Hypocritical bitch. Nothing I hate more than hypocritical bitches and he fits in it.
 
It's a very weak case. The US has strong free speech protections. You would need a pretty clear case of incitement to bring charges, let alone get a conviction. I can't recall the last time someone was even charged with incitement.

Probably the strongest example of potential incitement in recent years was when Mike Brown's stepfather screamed at supporters to "burn this bitch down!" while speaking at the scene of which turned into a riot. Police looked strongly at charging him, but ultimately did not. That was a MUCH stronger case because Louis Head (Brown's stepfather) was at the scene of the crime and had a great deal of influence over his audience, which followed his direction. If he had urged calm instead, a lot of people likely would have followed his direction, although that would not have guaranteed that some people might have rioted anyway.

In Palmer's case, he's not referring to a specific time or place, he is not especially influential on the people who were already rioting, he was more cheering on than inciting. If you charged him, you'd basically have to charge every knucklehead on Twitter, which simply isn't feasible. While I certainly do not like statements like the ones that Palmer made, and especially that Head made, speaking as an American, I do prefer that our country err strongly on the side of free speech and I think it would be a slippery slope if we started restricting speech more in this country.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/12/02/justice/ferguson-protests-investigation/index.html


Couldnt he lose his job with ESPN or whoever employs him though? Fuck that guy
 
It's a very weak case. The US has strong free speech protections. You would need a pretty clear case of incitement to bring charges, let alone get a conviction. I can't recall the last time someone was even charged with incitement.

Probably the strongest example of potential incitement in recent years was when Mike Brown's stepfather screamed at supporters to "burn this bitch down!" while speaking at the scene of which turned into a riot. Police looked strongly at charging him, but ultimately did not. That was a MUCH stronger case because Louis Head (Brown's stepfather) was at the scene of the crime and had a great deal of influence over his audience, which followed his direction. If he had urged calm instead, a lot of people likely would have followed his direction, although that would not have guaranteed that some people might have rioted anyway.

In Palmer's case, he's not referring to a specific time or place, he is not especially influential on the people who were already rioting, he was more cheering on than inciting. If you charged him, you'd basically have to charge every knucklehead on Twitter, which simply isn't feasible. While I certainly do not like statements like the ones that Palmer made, and especially that Head made, speaking as an American, I do prefer that our country err strongly on the side of free speech and I think it would be a slippery slope if we started restricting speech more in this country.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/12/02/justice/ferguson-protests-investigation/index.html


Yeah I get yeah, I guess different country different rights.

In my country right now I think you will get a visit from the National Bureau Investigation or even the military if post some thing like that during a mass riot.

This is just the unfortunate effects of toxic social media I guess. Mob mentality, internet lynchings etc.
 
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