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Discussion in 'The War Room' started by fingercuffs, Jul 17, 2021.

  1. oddjob Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    I havent seen them in 2 weeks so it's alright. I'm not worried at all anyway as I'm vaccinated. Worst I'll get stomach ache for a bit if anything.
     
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  2. The Audience Purple Belt

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    Mexico have been bossing it since day 1. They refused to bow down to the WHO's attempts at bullying and shaming them into locking down, because they couldn't afford to lock down. Told the WHO to fuck off, basically, legends. I've got several mates who fled Canada the second Trudeau started throwing his weight around, and got a 1-way flight to Mexico - they've been there for months and months and they reckon it's been the closest thing to normal life you can imagine.
     
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  4. Pecker123 Black Belt

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    I am reading Vaccinated can still transmit the virus.

    However vaccinated people are better off if they contract the virus. Symptoms are far less severe. Which is a plus for vaccination but we can't mandate what people put in their bodies, that strikes at the core of individual rights.

    It should therefore be personal choice and I would think those who wish to avoid the virus worst affects should be vaccinated, as is their choice.

    If it is true if you are vaccinated or unvaccinated it makes no difference to the spread of the virus. Then vaccination is a personal choice and not a wider concern.

    So your choice to be unvaccinated has no negative effect on the wider population. Then choose accordingly based on your beliefs as it can only harm YOU and not everyone else.

    I might be wrong.

    Based on the harm principle if being unvaccinated has no detrimental effect on the wider population then it is up to the individual what they put into their bodies as it has no detrimental effect on the whole.

    We can get into arguments about overrun health systems etc but the state has no right to control what we put in our bodies.

    If it was the case that vaccination meant no further spread of the virus I think there could be an argument but that does not seem to be the case and while this pandemic has been a brutal and trying time which has seen many deaths I would not give up fundamental rights over it.

    The BMA (british medical association) stated they cannot force people to be vaccinated. It is unethical.

    I could be wrong but if vaccines do not halt transmission then mandatory vaccination is wrong on very many levels and this is not something that should be a kneejerk reaction by businesses or a political ball to be bounced back and forth.

    We are talking about our bodies which are sancrosanct and if being vaccinated or unvaccinated has little negative effect on our fellow man while mandatory vax cuts to the core of our rights then I think that is a sacrifice worth making.

    Otherwise it becomes reductio ad absurdum.
     
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  5. SteveColdStone School of Self Awareness

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    The vaccine does reduce the transmission, but vaccinated people can still spread the virus.

    I agree that nobody can be forced to take the vaccine. Nobody should be ostracised or lose their rights for not taking it. It should be a personal choice. If you’re vulnerable then you should take it. If you think it will ultimately benefit then you should take it. If you’re young like I am then I see nothing wrong with not wanting to take it right now. If I somehow die or get long covid then that will be unfortunate but it’s my choice to make.

    If the people who don’t want the vaccine ultimately fold to this pressure, it will create a worrying precedent. Body autonomy is one of the most important things.
     
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  6. Queen B Fully Vaccinated

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    GOATvernor Cuomo once again leading the way and trends for reopening

     
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  7. Hadron90 Silver Belt

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    It was a well-played set up by them, but they didn't get him to commit to anything. The "yes" they were using an affirmation that he agreed to a policy change was really just a "yeah" in him acknowledging what they were saying. He did not agree to any policy changes and the only statement they got him to repeat was a minor one that is 100% true (astrazeneca is not an mrna vaccine).

    I don't see anything illegal or unethical there. Its dishonest to go after this guy for accepting a $10k donation from what he thought was a hedge fund, when big pharma spends more on lobbying than any industry by far.
     
  8. Hadron90 Silver Belt

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    Why didn't he mention nursing homes?
     
  9. Strychnine Titanium Belt

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    In the U.S. to attend public school your child must be vaccinated against diseases. It's mandatory. Dunno about Britain though.
     
  10. Queen B Fully Vaccinated

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    Lindsey Graham testes positive after vaccination.

    Admits the vaccine probably saved his life

     
  11. jefferz Steel Belt

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    I hope his ladybugs are ok.
     
  12. The Audience Purple Belt

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    You dont see the hypocrisy accepting funding derived from a shareholder of one of the vaccines that you've been vociferously attacking for the last year and a bit, on the proviso that you curtail said criticism? (I think you do really)
     
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    "All states and the District of Columbia allow a medical exemption. A medical exemption is allowed when a child has a medical condition that prevents them from receiving a vaccine. All but three states offer nonmedical exemptions for religious or philosophical reasons. Please check with your school to learn about exemptions or visit the School Vaccination Requirements and Exemptions tool."
    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/schoolvaxview/requirements/exemption.html

    The only thing I had to do for my kids was initial and sign a one page document stating my philosophical objections, and agreeing that my children will stay home in case of an outbreak.

    This is but another lie perpetuated by the vaccine zealots...
     
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  14. Ramon Antonio Black Belt

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    How does he know he'd feel worse without the vaccine? Possible, but far from a certainty.
     
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  15. Strychnine Titanium Belt

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    Good reminder. I was totally wrong about that one. We had a kid in middle school who had that "exemption."

    He stole around $300 from his dad one day, stood on a bench, and just started doing this.


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    But he WAS exempt though.
     
  16. Cyrano200 Purple Belt

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    So mask mandates are back on at work. I'm required to wear a mask sitting at my desk, isolated behind 5 ft high partitions approximately 340 degrees around me, with no one within 10 ft of me even though I am fully vaccinated.
     
  17. Hadron90 Silver Belt

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    He didn't agree to curtail criticism. Never once did he say that. He said that would mention its not an mRNA vaccine, which is true.

    Now you are going to have to square the fact that you are outraged he took $10k that he thought was from this drug company, when Big Pharma spent $300M last year lobbying. Go google your favorite politician and look at the donations they received from Pfizer and Moderna. Bet its well over $10k. Hmm...
     
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  19. The Audience Purple Belt

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    Nah its alright. The video is just more proof the guy's a tool.
     
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    They'll probably totally close their borders by the end of August, until next spring/summer, I reckon........and then many others countries will copy them, citing them as being the front-runners of the vaccine campaign.
     
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