International Coronavirus, v5: China hits back at American "coronavirus overreaction", issue travel warning for US

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The Official Breaking News & Discussion thread on the Coronavirus epidemic (COVID-19)
This serious topic is for rational and informed grown-ups only. That means neither the hysterical "The end is nigh! We're all gonna die!" nor the ignorant "It's just the flu! Nothing to see here!" folks are welcomed here.
Refrain from clogging up the thread with off-topic derailments, empty/worthless posts, dumb memes, or regurgitating unsubstantiated conspiracy theories or blatantly-fake news/videos/photos that have already been debunked in the previous threads (v1, v2, v3, v4).
Don't try to make sense out of the cooked "official stats" from Beijing, nor taking the fear-mongering/rage-baiting tabloids seriously.
Stay calmed and informed. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Be safe, everyone!


Background info on the "SARS-CoV-2" Coronavirus strain:
The 2019 novel coronavirus is now named Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2), while the disease associated with it is referred to as COVID-19 ("CO" for "Corona", "VI" for "Virus", and "D" for Disease). Formerly, this disease was referred to as “2019 novel coronavirus” or “2019-nCoV.”

SARS-CoV-2 was identified in China at the end of 2019 and is a new strain of coronavirus that has not been previously identified in humans. Analysis of the genetic tree of this virus indicates it originated in bats, but whether the virus jumped directly from bats or whether there was an intermediary animal host is not yet known.

The principal mode of transmission is still thought to be respiratory droplets, which may travel up to six feet from someone who is sneezing or coughing. The new coronavirus isn’t believed to be an airborne virus, like measles or smallpox, that can circulate through the air.

Close contact with an infectious person, such as shaking hands, or touching a doorknob, tabletop or other surfaces touched by an infectious person, and then touching your nose, eyes, or mouth can also transmit the virus.

The virus may be spread by fecal contamination of the environment, such as through leaky sewage pipes.

We do not yet have definitive data on how long the new coronavirus can survive on surfaces, but based on data from other coronaviruses such as SARS, it may be for up to two days at room temperatures.

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“Near the end of its two-week quarantine, 88 more people aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Yokohama have tested positive for COVID-19, the health ministry said Tuesday, with 65 of them experiencing no symptoms such as fever or coughs.

Meanwhile, all passengers aboard the cruise ship who have tested negative for the virus will be allowed to start disembarking Wednesday, health minister Katsunobu Kato said Tuesday, with the ministry having finished taking test samples from all passengers.

Those who test negative will be allowed to leave between Wednesday and Friday, while those who test positive will be hospitalized. The same measures will apply to crew members.”

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/18/national/diamond-princess-coronavirus/

Sounds like a great plan.

Diamond Princess cruise passengers disembark after 14-day quarantine ends in Japan, raising concerns among health experts
By Emiko Jozuka, Yoko Wakatsuki, Sandi Sid

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Tokyo (CNN) Passengers who have tested negative for the novel coronavirus began disembarking from the stricken Diamond Princess cruise ship Wednesday, despite mounting evidence from infectious disease experts they could unknowingly be carrying the virus back into their communities.

These are the first passengers to leave the vessel following a 14-day quarantine period, not including those undergoing treatment on shore for the virus, and the more than 300 Americans evacuated over the weekend and now in quarantine at two US bases.

A total of 545 confirmed cases of the virus have been linked to the ship during its quarantine in Tokyo Bay, with 88 new cases confirmed on Tuesday. One new case was confirmed on Wednesday -- a Disaster Medical Assistant Team male doctor in his 30s who went on board the ship.

Passengers over 70 years old who have tested negative were the first to exit the ship on board taxis and buses, with some expected to transition to shoreside facilities and others to board chartered flights, according to the ship's captain. The disembarkation will take several days. Once passengers have left the ship, they will be permitted to travel freely.

Several countries including Australia, Canada and the UK were organizing chartered planes to repatriate their nationals.

Japan's efforts to institute quarantine measures aboard the Diamond Princess may have slowed transmission on land, but the disembarkation has sparked wider concerns, with some pointing to a potential breach of public safety.

On Monday, it was revealed that a total of 14 evacuated American passengers developed symptoms only after leaving the ship.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) commended Japan's quarantine measures but said they may not be sufficient to prevent transmission among individuals in the ship.
"The CDC believes the rate of new infections on board, especially among those without symptoms, represents an ongoing risk," it said in a statement released Tuesday.

"To protect the health of the American public, all passengers and crew of the ship have been placed under travel restrictions, preventing them from returning to the US for at least 14 days after they have left the Diamond Princess."

Other experts have also raised the alarm. A Japanese infectious disease specialist who visited the quarantined cruise ship alleged there is inadequate infection control on board.

"Inside the Diamond Princess, I was was so scared ... there was no way to tell where the virus was ... bureaucrats were in charge of everything," said Kentaro Iwata, an infectious disease specialist at Kobe University in a YouTube video published Tuesday.

"I think those people who leave the cruise ship today or tomorrow should be monitored for another 14 days because there is high danger of secondary transmission," Iwata, told CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/18/asia/japan-health-guidelines-coronavirus-hnk-intl/index.html


Surprise! One down, a thousand to go! :rolleyes:
Oh, and she came home from the SS Coronavirus on a packed train. :cool:

Coronavirus: Japanese woman from Diamond Princess cruise ship tested positive 3 days after disembarking

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Japan has confirmed that a woman who tested negative and left the coronavirus-hit Diamond Princess cruise ship later tested positive, raising more questions about the effectiveness of quarantine measures.

The health minister, Katsunobu Kato, apologised after 23 passengers were allowed to leave the ship without being properly tested and vowed to have people retested.

The woman in her 60s returned home to the Tochigi prefecture north of Tokyo by train on Wednesday, but she had a fever on Friday and tested positive on Saturday, a local official said.

She was the first passenger to have tested positive in Japan after having been cleared to disembark.


Infectious disease experts and local officials have questioned how effective the quarantine period on the vessel was.

“There has been a judgment that those who disembarked after testing negative had no problem, but it has now become clear that those people can turn positive,” Tochigi’s governor, Tomokazu Fukuda, said on Saturday.

“We call on the government to take additional measures.”

Health minister Katsunobu Kato told a news conference in Tokyo on Saturday that the ministry was trying to reach the 23 passengers for retesting. “We deeply apologise for the situation caused by our oversight,” Kato said. “We will take all necessary measures, like double checks, to prevent a recurrence.”

Japanese authorities said they decided to allow passengers who tested negative during the quarantine period to disembark as they had taken measures to prevent the virus spreading: passengers were confined to their cabins, except for brief outings on open deck when they had to wear gloves and masks and keep their distance from fellow passengers.

However, an infectious diseases specialist from Kobe University, Prof Kentaro Iwata, has said the situation on the ship was “completely chaotic” and violated quarantine procedures, in blunt criticism rarely seen in Japanese officialdom.

He later said he had heard from a colleague on board that quarantine procedures had improved, but he still recommended that all those disembarking should be monitored for at least 14 days and should avoid contact with others.

Since Wednesday about 970 passengers – who tested negative after the government put the ship under quarantine on 5 February – have disembarked, local media reported.

On Saturday about 100 more passengers who had reportedly been in close contact with infected people on board were allowed to get off.

They included the last group of Japanese passengers, while some foreign passengers were still waiting on board for their governments to send chartered aircraft.

With the latest disembarkation, a 14-day quarantine is expected to start for more than 1,000 crew still on board.

Many of them were not placed in isolation as they were needed to prepare food and deliver meals to cabins.

Critics have said that they were inadvertently spreading the virus throughout the ship, which had more than 600 cases of the potentially deadly Covid-19 disease.

Kato defended Japan’s on-board quarantine on Saturday saying there was no medical facility large enough to admit more than 3,000 people at once.



"Completely virus-free" my ass. More like "Completely-free virus", come get some! <Lmaoo>

Add that to the list of Americans, Australians, and Israeli who tested negative on the ship and then positive once they got home. The entire Japanese Ministry of Health should commit seppuku when the consequences of their stupidity spiral out of control.
 
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Korean Businesses Acting Fast To Stop Coronavirus Spreading From Daegu Epicenter
Feb 24, 2020

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The coronavirus, now called COVID-19, is forcing some South Korean companies to suspend or scale down operations as the illness threatens to spread from Daegu to other business hubs throughout the country.

As the number of cases soared above 800 and 7 people were reported already to have died, some of the biggest and best known South Korean firms acted swiftly to make sure they and their legions of workers avoided the illness for which there is so far no sure cure.

Samsung Electronics, which accounts for at least 20% of the country’s gross domestic product, had to shut down its plant at Gumi, about 30 miles north of Daegu, for the majority of one day while the facilities were sprayed with disinfectant. Why? One employee had been stricken with the illness.

Samsung’s actions follow those of rival SK Hynix, which had to temporarily shut off about 800 workers from the outside world at a plant 50 miles south of Seoul after learning that a single new employee had come into contact with someone who had the virus. SK Hynix ranks a distant second to Samsung Electronics as Korea’s leading manufacturer of semiconductors.

The story was the same at GS Caltex, a major oil refiner. Upon learning that one of its workers might have encountered someone with the virus, the company halted operations at its research center at Daejeon, midway between Daegu and Seoul. The employee was found to be fine later, but just to be safe that entire facility was also disinfected.

The titans of the Korean economy as well as small and medium-sized companies and shops reviewed what to do in an emergency as the virus flared in and around Daegu, Korea’s fourth-largest city and an important industrial center about 170 miles southeast of Seoul. Daegu’s 2.4 million residents were told to stay mostly indoors.

The battle to contain the spread of the virus was enough for President Moon Jae-in to place the country on the highest alert level, warning the next few days would be critical and calling for “unprecedented powerful measures.”

There was, said Kim Gang-lip, vice health and welfare minister, “a high possibility that COVID-19 could spread nationwide” if efforts to stop it now prove to be unsuccessful. It was at this stage, he said, that the threat of a “nationwide spread is very worrisome.”

One sign of the concern was that airlines announced plans to halt most of their flights in and out of Daegu, further isolating a city that already bore the appearance of a ghost town with empty street and shuttered shops.

Adding to the sense of crisis, 15 countries placed restrictions on entry by Koreans. Five of them, led by Israel, also including Bahrain, Jordan, Kiribati, Samoa and American Samoa barred passengers from Korea altogether.

Israel tuned back 180 people on a Korean Air Flight, admitting only 10 passengers with Israeli passports, after a group of 30 Korean Catholics came down with symptoms of the virus after returning from a visit to the birthplace of Christianity in the portion of the Holy Land governed by Israel.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/donald...-spreading-from-daegu-epicenter/#4583403138a6


US soldiers fighting to keep virus from base at ground zero of South Korean crisis
By KIM GAMEL | February 23, 2020

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CAMP WALKER, South Korea — U.S. soldiers wearing face masks and gloves wielded thermometers instead of guns as the military fought to keep a deadly virus from spreading to this base in the middle of South Korea’s hardest-hit area.

South Korea reported another large jump in new virus cases Monday, according to The Associated Press. The 231 new cases brought South Korea's total to 833, and two more deaths raised its toll to seven.

The outbreak has spread rapidly since hitting the southeastern city of Daegu and surrounding areas last week, prompting growing concern for the local Army garrison with more than 9,000 American soldiers, family members and other personnel.

Soldiers have been banned from nonessential off-post travel to and from the base, and were told Sunday not to shake hands with anyone.

Civilians have been encouraged to follow the same guidance. Base entry restrictions have been tightened to forbid most visitors, although authorized South Koreans were allowed to come to work.

Col. Edward Ballanco, the garrison’s commander, said precautions were necessary but there was no reason to panic.

“We don’t know of a single American or Korean who has tested positive who has stepped foot on a U.S. installation,” he told Stars and Stripes during an interview at his office on Saturday. “And that remains true here in Daegu, even with the outbreak.”

The garrison, which oversees Camp Walker and several other installations in the region, also has implemented health checks at the gates. Soldiers screen all entrants with a questionnaire about possible exposure to the respiratory virus and temperature checks.

However, the military lacks the ability to do its own testing for coronavirus on post so suspected cases have to be sent to local hospitals.

Officials were struggling to facilitate the needs of a community finding itself essentially on lockdown.

Face masks with the ability to filter pathogens were disappearing from the shelves of base stores within an hour of delivery.

Schools that were shuttered last week were to remain closed at least through Friday as a precautionary measure, the Department of Defense Education Activity said late Sunday. Ballanco said earlier that online classes were being considered as an alternative.

Chaplains held virtual church services Sunday on the garrison’s Facebook page.

The commissary extended the number of days it’s open next week. Businesses asked customers to use hand sanitizer before entering.

And several soldiers and medics were diverted from their usual duties to act as health screeners at the gates, in addition to the usual guards who check IDs. They used thermal thermometers to avoid touching people.

Anybody with symptoms, which are similar to the flu, was encouraged first to call a hotline at the military hospital on Camp Humphreys. Tests were being routed through local hospitals.

“We are not testing the soldiers on post; we’re sending them off post to test,” Ballanco said in response to a question on Sunday.

The spike in infections followed weeks of relatively low numbers in South Korea after the coronavirus appeared in China in December, killing more than 2,000 people on the mainland before spreading to other countries.

South Korea’s Center for Disease Control said Sunday that more than half of the country’s infections were linked to a secretive religious movement called the Shincheonji Church of Jesus the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony, which has a chapter about a mile from one of Camp Walker’s gates in Daegu.

The usually crowded sidewalks in the city of 2.5 million people were mostly empty this weekend, and nearly everybody who ventured out wore face masks.

U.S. Forces Korea raised the risk level for the military community to moderate earlier this week but insisted on Sunday that “there remains zero confirmed cases of USFK personnel with COVID-19.”

It also put several facilities off-limits near the main U.S. base Camp Humphreys after a case was confirmed in the surrounding area of Pyeongtaek.

“When I first heard about the virus, I really wasn’t giving it so much thought,” Pvt. Hector Mercado said Saturday in between checking drivers lined up to enter Camp Walker. “However, once it hit Korea, once it hit Seoul and once it hit Daegu, then I was like, ‘OK this is real.’ ”

“I’m not scared, but I am worried because this is causing a lot of harm, and it’s something you can’t see. It’s something you can’t touch,” said Mercado, 23, from Puerto Rico. “It’s not like somebody is attacking you.”

Mercado said he normally would spend the weekend with his South Korean girlfriend, but he had to settle for video phone chats.

“We can only go from one base to another. For me, it’s very limiting because I like to be outside, be in the coffee shops and get to know the culture,” he said. “So, it’s a little frustrating, it’s a little irritating, but it is what it is.”

The garrison commander noted the military already has a well-developed evacuation plan to remove civilians from the divided peninsula if needed due to the threat from North Korea.

“We’re not there yet. I mean it’s something we’re capable of doing,” Ballanco said Saturday after apologizing for not shaking hands to avoid any chance of contamination.

He stressed that the military has advantages in preventing the virus.

“One, our population is a healthy one. We’re outside a lot. We’re mostly fit,” he said. “We also have the ability to seclude ourselves from the population quite a bit.”

Pvt. Daija Gillam, 22, of Atlanta, said she and her buddies were cooking and watching movies in the barracks instead of going out in the city as they usually would on a weekend.

“Daegu is very ghost town-like,” she said on Saturday.

Sgt. Joseph Evola, 22, of Long Island, N.Y., said the bases had plenty of entertainment to keep people busy, including restaurants, a bowling alley, bar and grill and theaters.

“At least people can still go out and do something even though they can’t leave post, so it’s not horrible honestly,” he said. “I have a feeling it will probably get worse with the strict rules and the lockdown, but at this moment it’s not horrible.”

Jennifer Long, an Army wife who teaches at the temporarily closed child development center, said she’s enjoying time with her infant daughter.

“I’m not in panic mode,” she said after grocery shopping at the commissary on Saturday. “But I would not go off post right now just because I have such a small one, and because we don’t know who has this or where it’s been, so I feel safer on post right now.”

Jacky Porter, 51, is trying to stay in her apartment outside the gates as much as possible, although she waited for nearly three hours for a new shipment of masks to arrive at the post exchange on Saturday.

“I just come to the PX and the commissary, buy what I need and then drive home,” she said, wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the word “OK.”

Melinda Shonk, who lives with her soldier husband and five children in family housing, recalled the start of the Daegu outbreak on Wednesday. She and her daughter were walking back to base after buying ice cream in the city.

“Everybody had masks on and was looking at us like we were crazy. Moms were pulling their kids out of the way as we were walking down the street,” she said. “We didn’t have masks on because we were licking our ice cream cones, and they were walking around us like we had the plague.”

https://www.stripes.com/news/us-sol...t-ground-zero-of-south-korean-crisis-1.619953
 
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Watching the news here in Japan. Seems that south Korea is in level 4, the highest health threat rating. Seems things are going badly three.
But Japan is doing its best to mess things up.
Bought a whole bunch if food yesterday. Ready to shelter in place for two weeks with the family.
 
I dismissed it early on. Now I'm actually just a bit worried that it isn't being properly contained.
 
It's just a f...

*looks around




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On a serious note, why the sudden change of name?

So the findings of the virus surviving only for a couple of hrs is now unreliable? 2 days?

Shit.

Stay strong Wuhan.

Fuck China though.
 
I can't wait to see it mutate with this many infected there is a high likelyhood that it will turn into something that no one has even considered. Much like Frieza or Cell going through their respective various forms.
 
I think this version is definitely going to see some developments for either good or bad.
 
The incubation period makes everyone relax until the hospitals are overrun. Without ICU death rate is anyone with pneumonia, which is 15-20%. But if it’s a bio weapon it should only affect our enemies in China, Iran, and North Korea. If not, good luck.
 
The virus or this thread..

There's only one virus, this flu thing is child's play. In all seriousness, it looks like a global pandemic is inevitable at this point. Lord Coke almost seemed excited about additional complications to bring it under control in that post.
 
A good friend of mine is married to a South Korean girl and her whole family is over there. I'm going to get in contact to see if there are any details on just how bad it is there. Will report back if there is anything of note.
 
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