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Fair enough. Let me just add this. The heavyweight division historically has been and always will be the worst in terms of skills.I definitely agree that Strikeforce and early ufc title run Dc would beat Cro cop.
Jds before his wars with Cain? Very likely, yes, he beats Cro cop.
There is zero nostalgia. I’m not a pride fanatic. I simply don’t think STIPE, or the current 2021 hw roster is impressive. I never said he was washed up at 33 when he debuted in the ufc. But if we are picking a peak version of him for the sake of conversation to fight Stipe, I don’t choose that version of him. I choose pre-Fedor Cro Cop. Regardless, I think either version beats Stipe. What Dc or Jds would do to cro cop, in their primes is irrelevant. Neither of those guys in their peak form are currently fighting at hw.
Larger athletes will always have more lucrative options in front of them in terms of professional sports. Mixed martial arts simply doesn’t pay well enough. The suggestion by anyone that the Pride heavy weights were so unbelievably talented and skilled compared to today is simply nostalgic bullshit in my opinion.