Opinion Famous Robert E Lee monument in Charlottesville finally taken down

[KilledByDeath]

Good.

 

[RandomUser12]

The demise of a people?

The world is in flux as it's always been.

America was a profoundly racist country throughout most of it's history, you should celebrate the fact it's better now than it's ever been. Slowly but surely things are getting better.

America only ever thrived and prospered as "profoundly racist nation." It's now a multiracial laughingstock whose primary purpose is promoting worship of blacks, homosexuality and philosemitism.

As the country becomes less white and whites continue to be disenfranchised, infrastructure will crumble, living standards will deplete, crime will continue to rise and America will officially become a third world nation.

Part of the reason for the lower % of Whites is because prior to the 70s Hispanics were considered White, because there are a lot of White Hispanics. The rest of the reason is the post 1965 immigration Act and illegal immigration.

Otherwise known as the Hart-Celler act, which they promised would not change the demographic make-up of the country.

What was the ethnic background of Emanuel Celler, by the way?

 

[burningspear]

@Old Cat i feel your pain

 

[Denter]

it sure feels that way sometimes.

These kind of sentiments are always baffling to me. The people who actually fought the Civil War (and saw their friends shot and blown up) became reconciled to their southern counterparts and decided to bury the hatchet and have national unity again, despite a period of dictatorship and occupation.

Whereas modern people (who often haven't suffered any harm from southerners at all), seem to think that the Union should have treated the defeated south like the Russian Empire treated the Caucasus at the time. Why?

Its bizarre because it is a direct rejection of the Union theory of the war (preserving national unity) and a rejection of Lincoln's project ("with malice towards none"). Instead, these modern people who are very fixated on the Confederacy actually adopt the Confederate theory of the war, and the dark fears that drove secession in the first place. Why?

Its just a stand in for modern political feelings, and they can harken back to this time of open violence between factions because it makes them feel....better? Something?

 

[MicroBrew]

These kind of sentiments are always baffling to me. The people who actually fought the Civil War (and saw their friends shot and blown up) became reconciled to their southern counterparts and decided to bury the hatchet and have national unity again, despite a period of dictatorship and occupation.

Whereas modern people (who often haven't suffered any harm from southerners at all), seem to think that the Union should have treated the defeated south like the Russian Empire treated the Caucasus at the time. Why?

Its bizarre because it is a direct rejection of the Union theory of the war (preserving national unity) and a rejection of Lincoln's project ("with malice towards none"). Instead, these modern people who are very fixated on the Confederacy actually adopt the Confederate theory of the war, and the dark fears that drove secession in the first place. Why?

Its just a stand in for modern political feelings, and they can harken back to this time of open violence between factions because it makes them feel....better? Something?

The people who erected the statues were the ones stirring the pot and agitating. Most of these statues were erected many years after the war ended, as a middle finger to Blacks.

 

[Denter]

The people who erected the statues were the ones stirring the pot and agitating. Most of these statues were erected many years after the war ended, as a middle finger to Blacks.

I was responding to the "South got off easy" comment, not the statue (who cares).

Also, the South didn't get off easy unless you compare it to borderline genocides like Russia's Caucasus campaign at the time.

 

[shockaholic12]

As the country becomes less white and whites continue to be disenfranchised, infrastructure will crumble, living standards will deplete, crime will continue to rise and America will officially become a third world nation.

Wait, are you implying minorities get disenfranchised in this country?

You're so close to figuring this whole thing out lol.

 

[Old Cat]

@Old Cat i feel your pain

yeah its sad, but it’s illustrative of the day in which we live.

Churchill, one of your greatest leaders, called him noblest American who had ever lived. History is meant to be learned from, the modern left have no clue how that works. They have a reductionist/simplistic view of history and attempt to judge the lives of the past by modern standards. Learned men of past generations knew one must look at men’s action in light of their surroundings/times.

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[RandomUser12]

Wait, are you implying minorities get disenfranchised in this country?

You're so close to figuring this whole thing out lol.

No, I'm saying white people are. So-called "minorities" are actively privileged and prioritised at the expense of whites in terms of higher education and job selection, in terms of government loans and subsidies, in terms of general advocacy in general.

It's not a matter of being a minority, because the people actually in power are minorities and they hate white people and are committed to their wholesale destruction as a race and a civilisation.

 

[HOLA]

No, I'm saying white people are. So-called "minorities" are actively privileged and prioritised at the expense of whites in terms of higher education and job selection, in terms of government loans and subsidies, in terms of general advocacy in general.

It's not a matter of being a minority, because the people actually in power are minorities and they hate white people and are committed to their wholesale destruction as a race and a civilisation.

lol! Imagine if you actually do have to deal with oppression one day? You'll never make it.

 

[RandomUser12]

lol! Imagine if you actually do have to deal with oppression one day? You'll never make it.

Bugman liberal snark isn't an argument. You have absolutely nothing to refute anything that I've said.

The only people who actually do have to deal with any genuine discrimination on a systemic and institutional level, psychological warfare on a societal level and a complete deprivation of any sort of racial advocacy are white people.

 

[HOLA]

Bugman liberal snark isn't an argument. You have absolutely nothing to refute anything that I've said.

The only people who actually do have to deal with any genuine discrimination on a systemic and institutional level, psychological warfare on a societal level and a complete deprivation of any sort of racial advocacy are white people.

Refute what you've said? You think that's high level discourse, throwing people for a loop, or something?

White people are 75% of the country and still overwhelmingly comprise the majority of positions of power in both the public and private sector. You just had a guy elected to the white house who called Mexicans rapists, wanted to ban Muslims, started the racist birther conspiracy.

"When people are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." - This is you.

 

[RandomUser12]

Refute what you've said? You think that's high level discourse, throwing people for a loop, or something?

White people are 75% of the country and still overwhelmingly comprise the majority of positions of power in both the public and private sector. You just had a guy elected to the white house who called Mexicans rapists, wanted to ban Muslims, started the racist birther conspiracy.

"When people are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." - This is you.

You're categorizing Hispanics, who are overwhelmingly mestizos as white. Actual white people - as in those of European stock - are much nearer to 50% of the population.

Trump campaigned using a lot of nativist rhetoric designed to appeal to long since abandoned working class white people and ultimately did nothing but strengthen Israel's position in the Middle East. He was a con-job.

The last quote is the kind of anti-white jewish gaslighting used to rationalise and justify white dispossession and disenfranchisement. The whole concept of white privilege was created for that purpose, and they call it "equity" now, not "equality" - keep up.

 

[shockaholic12]

No, I'm saying white people are. So-called "minorities" are actively privileged and prioritised at the expense of whites in terms of higher education and job selection, in terms of government loans and subsidies, in terms of general advocacy in general.

It's not a matter of being a minority, because the people actually in power are minorities and they hate white people and are committed to their wholesale destruction as a race and a civilisation.

You have a raging victim complex. Probably should grow some thicker skin.

 

[shockaholic12]

Bugman liberal snark isn't an argument. You have absolutely nothing to refute anything that I've said.

The only people who actually do have to deal with any genuine discrimination on a systemic and institutional level, psychological warfare on a societal level and a complete deprivation of any sort of racial advocacy are white people.

This is all false. Look at the Stop and frisk program the justice department let run in NYC for years. NYPD’s own stats showed that when they stopped white people the likelihood they would find illegal contraband, the stated mission of the program, was higher than any minority group.

So, if white’s are soooooo disenfranchised by the government and powers that be like you have been bitching about, the NYPD should have looked at their own stats and started stopping and frisking whites at least as much if not much more than other races since they are the turning up weapons and drugs the most often right?

Except that never happened. They ignored white crime and focused their stops on minorities less likely to be committing the crimes they were investigating. But because it made sense or it was how the program was designed, but because of racist policing and white privileges.

 

[reveler]

Refute what you've said? You think that's high level discourse, throwing people for a loop, or something?

White people are 75% of the country and still overwhelmingly comprise the majority of positions of power in both the public and private sector. You just had a guy elected to the white house who called Mexicans rapists, wanted to ban Muslims, started the racist birther conspiracy.

"When people are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." - This is you.

this is the communist mindset. the state is justified in making you miserable because technically someone else has it even worse, whether that is even true or not.

all state oppression is wrong. and yes, big tech censorship is state oppression, at this point.

your examples are more mean tweets from trump. "called/wanted/started" is not discrimination. the only discrimination on the books, enforced by the state in western countries, is against whites. and to a lesser extent, asians in certain college admissions.

the left continues to ignore that poor and middle class whites are not "in" the big club. they simultaneously ignore that the whites who are "in" are overwhelmingly jewish. "white privilege" is more projection from the totalitarian left. everything supposedly privileged about whites compared to non-whites is really just the privilege that jews, including white jews, enjoy over literally every other group, including gentile whites.

 

[RandomUser12]

This is all false. Look at the Stop and frisk program the justice department let run in NYC for years. NYPD’s own stats showed that when they stopped white people the likelihood they would find illegal contraband, the stated mission of the program, was higher than any minority group.

So, if white’s are soooooo disenfranchised by the government and powers that be like you have been bitching about, the NYPD should have looked at their own stats and started stopping and frisking whites at least as much if not much more than other races since they are the turning up weapons and drugs the most often right?

Except that never happened. They ignored white crime and focused their stops on minorities less likely to be committing the crimes they were investigating. But because it made sense or it was how the program was designed, but because of racist policing and white privileges.

The whole point of the stop and frisk program was to put a stop to the violent crime epidemic that raged in the city in the 70s and 80s, which was overwhelmingly committed by non-whites then and even moreso today given the large scale white flight that's occurred there.

Even the anti-white jewish mayor Michael Bloomberg acknowledged that whites were disproportionately targeted by such policies in relation to actual violent crime.

That epidemic is now returning because the communities responsible for these crimes are no longer being policed.

 

[Blayt7hh]

The issue is people automatically assume you or I am a southern slave supporter when it is not true. It just so happens Confederate fans are right on the issue of hypocrisy regarding how they could not seceede and how violence was used to rule over them and yet from a pacifist view or historically US foreign policy has favored those who seceede....

Our foreign policy tends to favor whoever benefits us the most. You can call America a lot of things but we are definitely not pacifists.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

You're categorizing Hispanics, who are overwhelmingly mestizos as white. Actual white people - as in those of European stock - are much nearer to 50% of the population.

Trump campaigned using a lot of nativist rhetoric designed to appeal to long since abandoned working class white people and ultimately did nothing but strengthen Israel's position in the Middle East. He was a con-job.

The last quote is the kind of anti-white jewish gaslighting used to rationalise and justify white dispossession and disenfranchisement. The whole concept of white privilege was created for that purpose, and they call it "equity" now, not "equality" - keep up.

ohhh jesus christ you’re a full blown nazi <Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo> your profile should be stickied on the WR front page, bro, you exemplify this forum.

 

[shockaholic12]

The whole point of the stop and frisk program was to put a stop to the violent crime epidemic that raged in the city in the 70s and 80s, which was overwhelmingly committed by non-whites then and even moreso today given the large scale white flight that's occurred there.

Even the anti-white jewish mayor Michael Bloomberg acknowledged that whites were disproportionately targeted by such policies in relation to actual violent crime.

That epidemic is now returning because the communities responsible for these crimes are no longer being policed.

The whole point of the stop and frisk program which came about after 2000 was to address violent crimes from 3 decades before then?

Holy shit, this is dumbest post I’ve read on sherdog in a minute.