Law Florida gives school districts 48 hours to reverse mask mandates or lose funding

Going to war with school districts seems to be the new battle ground for republicans. School board meetings all over the country are being flooded by idiots spouting bullshit about masks, CRT, vaccines, religion and the like. It's disgusting and a huge insult to the education community.

This shit in Florida with the governor is such a fucking waste of time and energy. Why on earth does the governor thinks he should dictate policy like this? Arrogant AF.

Yeah. It is a sad sight to see.
 
Going to war with school districts seems to be the new battle ground for republicans. School board meetings all over the country are being flooded by idiots spouting bullshit about masks, CRT, vaccines, religion and the like. It's disgusting and a huge insult to the education community.

This shit in Florida with the governor is such a fucking waste of time and energy. Why on earth does the governor thinks he should dictate policy like this? Arrogant AF.

Governor is dictating public schools to not act like dictatorships.

The horror.
 
Wow....that’s one of the dumbest posts I’ve read in a while.

I’d say you should get vasectomy, to avoid spreading your seed, but since you don’t believe in science.......I think banging a screen door on your testicles repeatedly should give the same effect.

cultist lefty came to defend his cult against infidels...

like most lefties you have no self awareness and are just projecting. thats why you should take your own advice and avoid spreading your weak genes, but considering most lefties are low iq/low t betas nature probably took care of it already
 
wtf? is this even a real question? what do i want? hurr durr. you can't even fathom that it's about choice? ffs. use your brain.

and nice strawman, btw. lolz @ "anti-mask, conspiracy theorists" - can't refute anything i said, just post irrelevant nonsense about a generalization of some other people! it'll totally be magically relevant somehow!

and lolz @ "All the statistical evidence points to the effectiveness of masks" - citation requested. iirc, there was a whole one study on this... and it actually concluded the inverse (and get this, the n was > 2).

cloth masks don't really do shit re: covid.




...are you trolling or seriously this ignorant? dictate? it's the literal opposite. ironically, the mandate is such...

So, do Repiblicans believe that local control of schools is best or only when the local government does what they want? Local schools boards have been given lots of leeway on curriculum, dress codes, and other education details by Republican (and Democrat) state leaders but for some reason feel the need to step in now that they local school boards are not doing what the Governora want.
 
So, do Repiblicans believe that local control of schools is best or only when the local government does what they want? Local schools boards have been given lots of leeway on curriculum, dress codes, and other education details by Republican (and Democrat) state leaders but for some reason feel the need to step in now that they local school boards are not doing what the Governora want.

it's as if republicans are generally against mandates, or something.
 
it's as if republicans are generally against mandates, or something.

right, that's why republicans have never tried to ban CRT teaching in schools and don't support mandates against it.

Wait a second.......the totally opposite is true.
 
Does the left not give a shit about kids parents being able to go to work? Wow how compassionate of you.

If safety is the excuse then you better have good evidence for it. If you think cloth masks are going to make any significant difference when it comes to children and vaccinated adults then you are delusional. This fear mongering will never end.

There you go making assumptions again. I'm not left or right, I approach everything with an open mind. Again, every school district should be able to make their own mandates. Out here in Amish country, we're probably not as risky as Philadelphia, or even Lancaster. I agree there shouldn't be national mandates, but that goes both ways.

My real thought is this should all be up to each person. Open up, if people are OK with the risks then have at it. The planet could use a little population control.
 
because "generally" means unequivocally, amirite?

Generally? They have been constantly meddling on a national level in telling schools how to handle prayer and as you are admitting what parts of history they can and can’t teach and now telling schools on a state level what they can do with masks rules. That’s a pattern of behavior and it’s not hands off lol.
 
it's as if republicans are generally against mandates, or something.


Local school boards, including Republican ones, mandate stuff all the time. It is basically a big part of their job. What is the difference between a mandate that all students wear shoes and a mandate that all students wear masks?
 
Generally? They have been constantly meddling on a national level in telling schools how to handle prayer and as you are admitting what parts of history they can and can’t teach and now telling schools on a state level what they can do with masks rules. That’s a pattern of behavior and it’s not hands off lol.

holy shit, imagine being this incompetent and clueless as to what mandate even means.

and now with masks? are you freakin' retarded? it's the INVERSE of your brilliant fucking deduction, genius.
 
Local school boards, including Republican ones, mandate stuff all the time. It is basically a big part of their job. What is the difference between a mandate that all students wear shoes and a mandate that all students wear masks?

is this even a serious question? because it's reductio ad absurdum as fuck.
 
holy shit, imagine being this incompetent and clueless as to what mandate even means.

and now with masks? are you freakin' retarded? it's the INVERSE of your brilliant fucking deduction, genius.

they are giving a mandate to schools in Florida regarding what their mask policies are allowed to entail. The mandate is no mask enforcement. They are doing the opposite of allowing schools to make their own policies.
 
they are giving a mandate to schools in Florida regarding what their mask policies are allowed to entail. The mandate is no mask enforcement. They are doing the opposite of allowing schools to make their own policies.

holy shit. you really ARE this stupid.

you don't even know what a mandate is/means. protip: you have it COMPLETELY backwards.

"no mask enforcement" isn't a mandate. that doesn't even make any fucking sense.

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Two Florida school districts that defied state rules and imposed mask mandates for students have been given 48 hours to reverse course or lose state funding equal to the salaries of their school board members.

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holy shit. you really ARE this stupid.

you don't even know what a mandate is/means. protip: you have it COMPLETELY backwards.

"no mask enforcement" isn't a mandate. that doesn't even make any fucking sense.



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a mandate is an official order to do something. The GOP led state government is ordering schools to allow people to violate the school’s mask policy instead of giving sovereignty to schools and their boards to make their policies and enforce them.
 
a mandate is an official order to do something. The GOP led state government is ordering schools to allow people to violate the school’s mask policy instead of giving sovereignty to schools and their boards to make their policies and enforce them.

holy shit, this isn't even just circular logic. it's just hypocrisy.

fact: the mandate was done by school districts, not the state
fact: the state telling them to knock it the fuck off isn't a mandate
fact: the state threatening to pull funds isn't a mandate, either
fact: you have no fucking clue what mandates are

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wow, a sample size of like 2 in this anecdotal (at best) evidence. this changes everything. better force children everywhere to do what you want.
Here ya go, Rob.. Getting harder and harder to find this stuff:

Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial,” American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19216002

N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.

Cowling, B. et al. (2010) “Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review,” Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/face-masks-to-prevent-transmission-of-influenza-virus-a-systematic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05

None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.

bin-Reza et al. (2012) “The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence,” Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257–267. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1750-2659.2011.00307.x

“There were 17 eligible studies. … None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”

Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) “Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis,” CMAJ Mar 2016 https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567

“We identified six clinical studies … . In the meta-analysis of the clinical studies, we found no significant difference between N95 respirators and surgical masks in associated risk of (a) laboratory-confirmed respiratory infection, (b) influenza-like illness, or (c) reported work-place absenteeism.”

Offeddu, V. et al. (2017) “Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis,” Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934–1942, https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/65/11/1934/4068747

Self-reported assessment of clinical outcomes was prone to bias. Evidence of a protective effect of masks or respirators against verified respiratory infection (VRI) was not statistically significant”; as per Fig. 2c therein:

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Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) “N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial,” JAMA. 2019; 322(9): 824–833. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214

“Among 2862 randomized participants, 2371 completed the study and accounted for 5180 HCW-seasons. … Among outpatient health care personnel, N95 respirators vs medical masks as worn by participants in this trial resulted in no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”

Long, Y. et al. (2020) “Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks against influenza: A systematic review and meta-analysis,” J Evid Based Med. 2020; 1- 9. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/jebm.12381

“A total of six RCTs involving 9,171 participants were included. There were no statistically significant differences in preventing laboratory-confirmed influenza, laboratory-confirmed respiratory viral infections, laboratory-confirmed respiratory infection, and influenza-like illness using N95 respirators and surgical masks. Meta-analysis indicated a protective effect of N95 respirators against laboratory-confirmed bacterial colonization (RR = 0.58, 95% CI 0.43-0.78). The use of N95 respirators compared with surgical masks is not associated with a lower risk of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”

Conclusion Regarding That Masks Do Not Work
No RCT study with verified outcome shows a benefit for HCW or community members in households to wearing a mask or respirator. There is no such study. There are no exceptions.

Likewise, no study exists that shows a benefit from a broad policy to wear masks in public (more on this below).

Furthermore, if there were any benefit to wearing a mask, because of the blocking power against droplets and aerosol particles, then there should be more benefit from wearing a respirator (N95) compared to a surgical mask, yet several large meta-analyses, and all the RCT, prove that there is no such relative benefit.


https://www.jpost.com/health-scienc...in-preventing-covid-transmission-study-666762
 
holy shit, this isn't even just circular logic. it's just hypocrisy.

fact: the mandate was done by school districts, not the state
fact: the state telling them to knock it the fuck off isn't a mandate
fact: the state threatening to pull funds isn't a mandate, either
fact: you have no fucking clue what mandates are

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the state mandating what policies a school is and isn’t allowed to enforce regarding masks is an official order to do something, the definition of a mandate .
 
When someone starts making stupid offensive arguments like this in a debate it means they lost. I hope you learned something.

You missed the point. To think that every person in the U.S. should wear a mask that is 10% effective is ridiculous. It would be like wearing a condom while masturbating for fear of leaving some DNA behind that may impregnate a random woman.... or driving a car with a helmet in case of crash. Remember CV-19 is less than 1% lethal, which I add to the Math.

It's sad that you could not put it together... and didn't get the humor behind it.
 
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