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Is Cyberpunk even a real CPU intensive game? I feel like it's primarily a GPU intensive game as my damn 1070 can somehow run it with frame drops.
I will concede that I don't know. I guess really I'm looking to Cyberpunk as a new Crysis benchmark. What I want is a rig that will allow me to play the best ports of games over the next generation. I'm neither pro nor anti console. I understand that with a couple exceptions (like StarCraft and the like) graphical plateaus are dictated largely by the console generations created by MS and Sony. So anything they run at 30 fps, I want to be able to run at 60+ on PC. I was able to easily do this for last generation, with a devil's canyon i5 and a GTX 1080. But it simply can't be done with the PS5 and XBSX now in the mix.

I haven't purchased Cyberpunk, and I never got on the hype train but I always believed and continue to believe that it will eventually be a pretty darn good product. I'd like to be able to play it with everything on, cranked to Ultra, while never dipping below 60 FPS. Some people are OCD about DLSS but I actually think it's great, and would happily use it if I could get my benchmarks at 1440p. If not, I really do think I'm going to just wait for Zen4 and either RTX4000 or RDNA3.

I realize that's a roundabout way of telling you "I dunno lol," but... I really dunno. LOL!

Having said that, you're probably right, seeing most games lean away from CPU intensive strain these days. I'm not picky about the CPU, all I know is what @Madmick told me, that a Ryzen 7 5800X will take care of just about everything I need for the foreseeable future. I love to Twitch stream as well, and from what I've heard you need a little bit of CPU oomph for that too.

I'd like to start a conversation in this thread about the difference between the 3080 Ti and the 3090. From what I have seen... there's not a very big difference.
 
I will concede that I don't know. I guess really I'm looking to Cyberpunk as a new Crysis benchmark. What I want is a rig that will allow me to play the best ports of games over the next generation. I'm neither pro nor anti console. I understand that with a couple exceptions (like StarCraft and the like) graphical plateaus are dictated largely by the console generations created by MS and Sony. So anything they run at 30 fps, I want to be able to run at 60+ on PC. I was able to easily do this for last generation, with a devil's canyon i5 and a GTX 1080. But it simply can't be done with the PS5 and XBSX now in the mix.

I haven't purchased Cyberpunk, and I never got on the hype train but I always believed and continue to believe that it will eventually be a pretty darn good product. I'd like to be able to play it with everything on, cranked to Ultra, while never dipping below 60 FPS. Some people are OCD about DLSS but I actually think it's great, and would happily use it if I could get my benchmarks at 1440p. If not, I really do think I'm going to just wait for Zen4 and either RTX4000 or RDNA3.

I realize that's a roundabout way of telling you "I dunno lol," but... I really dunno. LOL!

Having said that, you're probably right, seeing most games lean away from CPU intensive strain these days. I'm not picky about the CPU, all I know is what @Madmick told me, that a Ryzen 7 5800X will take care of just about everything I need for the foreseeable future. I love to Twitch stream as well, and from what I've heard you need a little bit of CPU oomph for that too.

I'd like to start a conversation in this thread about the difference between the 3080 Ti and the 3090. From what I have seen... there's not a very big difference.
Yeah, I have a 6900k that isn't overclocked and only 16 gigs of RAM and can still run CyberPunk on high (not ultra) on my 1070 at an average of liek 45 FPS. I want a 3000 series and will likely try to grab one as soon as they start getting near MSRP and then get a new Mobo and CPU to upgrade this fall and turn the current parts into like a media server.
 
I'm hoping to pick up a 3060 ti to tie me over until I buy a full new pc in a couple years.

God knows when it will get on the market though at retail. Feels like forever.

Despite my rig being pretty old now, I find my 32 GB still holds up fine, and my CPU isn't much of a bottleneck I don't think. My set up is very similar to yours Greg, except I have a 6700K to go along with a 1070 GPU.
 
With that in mind, I want to build a rig that can run Cyberpunk maxed at 1440p with ray tracing
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I guess I'm just a sucker for those graphics. Blade Runner was my favorite movie growing up and the night city looks amazing to me.

Is that the dude from Dead Pool?


ok. as long as you know what you're getting into/expect a buggy mess

and yeah, it's ryan reynolds or whatever his name is.

re: specs you mentioned:

the 5800x is solid, the ram is... well, you didn't mention the speeds which would likely be more relevant than 2x32 (64 GB seems to be overkill right now). the 3090 looks weird since you want this comp for gaming and also chose a 5800x (ie: a good overall choice vs the most expensive [ie: a 3080/6800xt, vs the 3090] ), but since the gpu market is shit i'm not sure how much i'd criticize a 3090, anyway.

i'd look into ray tracing before you commit a ton of $ into it. you may love it, you may not give a fuck. personally, i don't really care about it... but in the future that would probably change.
 
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At this stage I would take a 3060. 3090 would be cool but the 3060 is more than enough of an upgrade for me lol.
I am of a similar thought though I would rather get the 3070 if I could but it seems like Nvidia is not producing them in any kind of numbers. I think the 3060 is getting pushed hard due likely to being easier to produce in numbers.
 
I am of a similar thought though I would rather get the 3070 if I could but it seems like Nvidia is not producing them in any kind of numbers. I think the 3060 is getting pushed hard due likely to being easier to produce in numbers.
Oh well, it's better than what I have lol.

I get supplies for the parts went down and shit but the production ability blows my mind a bit.
 
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Cryptominers in China appear to be selling off graphics cards in bulk, a strong indication that the cryptocurrency bust might lead to gamers more easily being able to actually buy a GPU for their gaming PC.


According to Hong Kong news outlet HKEPC Hardware, internal conversations among cryptomining groups posted to a popular Taiwanese bulletin board PTT show large quantities of everything from Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 and AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT cards to Nvidia GTX 1066s and AMD Radeon RX 478s – which is likely the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 and AMD Radeon RX 470, respectively."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...x-cards-in-bulk-after-chinas-crypto-crackdown
 
ok. as long as you know what you're getting into/expect a buggy mess

and yeah, it's ryan reynolds or whatever his name is.

re: specs you mentioned:

the 5800x is solid, the ram is... well, you didn't mention the speeds which would likely be more relevant than 2x32 (64 GB seems to be overkill right now). the 3090 looks weird since you want this comp for gaming and also chose a 5800x (ie: a good overall choice vs the most expensive [ie: a 3080/6800xt, vs the 3090] ), but since the gpu market is shit i'm not sure how much i'd criticize a 3090, anyway.

i'd look into ray tracing before you commit a ton of $ into it. you may love it, you may not give a fuck. personally, i don't really care about it... but in the future that would probably change.

For a 3090 or 3080Ti would you recommend the 5900X or the 5950X?
 
For a 3090 or 3080Ti would you recommend the 5900X or the 5950X?

it really depends on what you're doing.

if you're just gaming, i'd stick to the 5900x or 5800x. maybe even the 5600x, depending on your specific situation.

both the 5950x and 3090 are more geared to workstation kinda shit than gaming, imo. they're kinda overkill.
 
it really depends on what you're doing.

if you're just gaming, i'd stick to the 5900x or 5800x. maybe even the 5600x, depending on your specific situation.

both the 5950x and 3090 are more geared to workstation kinda shit than gaming, imo. they're kinda overkill.
Right now I have an option to either get an RTX 3090 at retail, $2200.00, or get a 3080 Ti for more than retail but still much less than the 3090. It seems that the 3080 Ti is basically a 3090 with less memory so it's very tempting.

The Aorus Xtreme is my dream card, only because I'm a whore and I love the design and clock speed. But the 3080 Ti is a Gigabyte Gaming OC. Hard choice
 
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Cryptominers in China appear to be selling off graphics cards in bulk, a strong indication that the cryptocurrency bust might lead to gamers more easily being able to actually buy a GPU for their gaming PC.


According to Hong Kong news outlet HKEPC Hardware, internal conversations among cryptomining groups posted to a popular Taiwanese bulletin board PTT show large quantities of everything from Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 and AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT cards to Nvidia GTX 1066s and AMD Radeon RX 478s – which is likely the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 and AMD Radeon RX 470, respectively."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...x-cards-in-bulk-after-chinas-crypto-crackdown
Time to dump the cards I’ve been hanging in too.
 
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Alright my build is getting refined, thanks to @Madmick and @rob mafia and really, all of you. Here's what I'm looking at:

Ryzen 7 5800X
Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 3080 Ti
Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro AC AM4 Socket
G. Skill Trident Neo 2x16GB DDR4 3800
Corsair HX Series 1000W 80 Plus Platinum
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB SSD PCI-E
Corsair iCUE H150i Elite CPU Cooler
Corsair Crystal 570X Black Tempered Glass

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-...7 5800X-_-19-113-665-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-gv-n308tgaming-oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932436
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b55..._Pro AC-_-13-145-216-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374099?quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-hx-s...s 1000W-_-17-139-204-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/samsung-1tb-980-pro/p/N82E16820147790
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-liquid-cooling-system-icue-h150i-elite-capellix/p/N82E16835181203
https://www.newegg.com/mirror-black...al 570X-_-11-139-115-_-Product&quicklink=true

Total so far is $3409.87. I've heard varying things about PSU, some saying a 3080 Ti only needs 750W. I don't... know how I feel about that. I've been using either 750 or even 850 since 2015 for my GTX 1080.
Also is 1TB alright for an SSD? I've heard that it's good to have an SSD for your Windows install, and then to put your games on a secondary, larger hard drive. That's what I did for my current rig, but that could be an outdated principle.
Finally, I will need a new monitor. I'd like a 1440p with 1ms, but I guess it's not urgent right now. Maybe I'll hold off on that, but I've heard a good monitor is crucial for a gaming build these days. Right now I can only do 1080p unless I use my TV which is fucking enormous, and I don't know how to work that into my gaming setup.

Feedback wanted! Remember I'm trying to root out bottlenecks. Thank you sherbros!
 
Alright my build is getting refined, thanks to @Madmick and @rob mafia and really, all of you. Here's what I'm looking at:

Ryzen 7 5800X
Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 3080 Ti
Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro AC AM4 Socket
G. Skill Trident Neo 2x16GB DDR4 3800
Corsair HX Series 1000W 80 Plus Platinum
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB SSD PCI-E
Corsair iCUE H150i Elite CPU Cooler
Corsair Crystal 570X Black Tempered Glass

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x/p/N82E16819113665?Description=Ryzen 7 5800X&cm_re=Ryzen_7 5800X-_-19-113-665-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-gv-n308tgaming-oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932436
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro-ac/p/N82E16813145216?Description=Aorus Pro AC&cm_re=Aorus_Pro AC-_-13-145-216-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374099?quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-hx-series-hx1000-cp-9020139-na-1000w/p/N82E16817139204?Description=Corsair HX Series 1000W&cm_re=Corsair_HX Series 1000W-_-17-139-204-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/samsung-1tb-980-pro/p/N82E16820147790
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-liquid-cooling-system-icue-h150i-elite-capellix/p/N82E16835181203
https://www.newegg.com/mirror-black-corsair-crystal-series-570x-rgb-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139115?Description=Corsair Crystal 570X&cm_re=Corsair_Crystal 570X-_-11-139-115-_-Product&quicklink=true

Total so far is $3409.87. I've heard varying things about PSU, some saying a 3080 Ti only needs 750W. I don't... know how I feel about that. I've been using either 750 or even 850 since 2015 for my GTX 1080.
Also is 1TB alright for an SSD? I've heard that it's good to have an SSD for your Windows install, and then to put your games on a secondary, larger hard drive. That's what I did for my current rig, but that could be an outdated principle.
Finally, I will need a new monitor. I'd like a 1440p with 1ms, but I guess it's not urgent right now. Maybe I'll hold off on that, but I've heard a good monitor is crucial for a gaming build these days. Right now I can only do 1080p unless I use my TV which is fucking enormous, and I don't know how to work that into my gaming setup.

Feedback wanted! Remember I'm trying to root out bottlenecks. Thank you sherbros!


running games on a hdd is aids, especially if you're running a ssd. absolutely run games from a ssd, it'll generally have a massive difference in loading times. for games with a lot of loading screens (and more importantly, animations loading in mid-gameplay), it's a world of difference.

1 TB should be fine, you can always run a bigass hdd for extra storage on things that won't need minimized reading times.

1000W is far more than enough, you could go lower if you want.
 
Intel according to their announcement is close like real close to at least showing off their new graphics cards. One rumored problem is to get their best performance you need new Intel motherboards lol. But their new top end cards will exceed the performance of the 3080 series an offer compatibility with Nvidia raytracing an physics.

Odyssey was a card they sent to people looking at getting an Intel card. The business size card had info where to look when the announcement would happen. They was an alert to get ready apparently.
 
Alright this is tightening up, I was able to make some more effective pricing decisions, and here's what I have:

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 3080 Ti
Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC AM4
G.Skill Ripjaw V Series 2x16GB DDR4 4000
Corsair RMx RM1000x 80+ Gold
Western Digital WD Black 2TB PCI-E SSD (The Samsung 1TB is sold out, not sure if I'll do WD 1 or 2TB)
Corsair iCUE H150i Elite
Corsair Crystal 570X ATX Mid Black Temp

So all this, if I get the card I need, will be a little below $3k, which is a lot better than things were looking about a month ago. Bumped the memory up, bumped the price of the PSU down.

Does anyone have any recommendations on monitors? Again thanks to everyone for their input
 

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