Golovkin would've had an even better career at 154

would've liked a DeGale fight as well, at least when DeGale was in form.

DeGale was never a truly great fighter, but I was thinking the other day how it's a bit odd how fast he fell off. Not that it hasn't happened repeatedly to good fighters over the years, but I really didn't expect it.
 
DeGale was never a truly great fighter, but I was thinking the other day how it's a bit odd how fast he fell off. Not that it hasn't happened repeatedly to good fighters over the years, but I really didn't expect it.
yeah he dropped off fast. a fight with ggg would have been good.
 
yeah he dropped off fast. a fight with ggg would have been good.

I think Golovkin wins that. Funnily enough (especially with their controversial ammy bouts), I think a youngish Dirrell probably beats Golovkin. But I've always had more faith in Andre Dirrell than he deserved (if Seano reads this, he'll be pissed).
 
I think Golovkin wins that. Funnily enough (especially with their controversial ammy bouts), I think a youngish Dirrell probably beats Golovkin. But I've always had more faith in Andre Dirrell than he deserved (if Seano reads this, he'll be pissed).
Seano will be undecided between Dirrell and GGG XD

also, didn't DeGale get some bad eye injuries? Feels like he was a very creative fighter, but not very intelligent with his defense.
 
DeGale was never a truly great fighter, but I was thinking the other day how it's a bit odd how fast he fell off. Not that it hasn't happened repeatedly to good fighters over the years, but I really didn't expect it.

I always got the impression that he just didn’t take it seriously enough (“playboy lifestyle”) and was not properly motivated.

He had some skills, but seemed to think he just needed to turn up to win.

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He's not that special anyway, everyone has already forgotten him, that fast, his legacy wasn't going to last in everyone's minds, but the all time greats are never forgotten, they are always mentioned & compared to others upcoming talent and threads are always going on about the greats.
oh yeah nobody knows who golovkin is anymore.

the fuck you on about?
 
Ward would've taken GGG's lunch money....GGG didn't want it though. Can't blame him.
Are you teenager if you are talking about lunch money?
Someone had beat you and took away your lunch money, now you are sitting here and posting smart humor?

Maybe you do not have food on your table tonight? Might happen.
 
Are you teenager if you are talking about lunch money?
Someone had beat you and took away your lunch money, now you are sitting here and posting smart humor?

Maybe you do not have food on your table tonight? Might happen.

Perfect post.
 
oh yeah nobody knows who golovkin is anymore.

the fuck you on about?

GGG had his time but nobodies interested in threads about GGG should've moved up different weight classes, so there's nothing to talk about him moving to super middleweight
oh yeah nobody knows who golovkin is anymore.

the fuck you on about?


It wouldn't of mattered if Golovkin came from light middleweight because he's not beating Floyd at light middleweight anyway in 2007 nor 2015 neither Canelo 2011-2015 he starts his career at 154 in 2006 he would have to wait until Floyd and Oscar were gone anyway, he's not touching Floyd at 154 in 2007 nor Oscar with only a couple of fights under his belt, when he started in 2006. He would've had to face others like Spinks, Forest but wins against those guys wouldn't of mattered anyway when Floyd is around those weights being pound for pound king schooling everyone.



Golovkin started his professional career in 2006, it would've taken him two years to get ready for Floyd in 2008 or Canelo in 20011, Floyd was champion 2007, Vernon Forest was champion, Manny was champion, Spinks, he would've had to call Floyd out or Manny out or young Canelo out, otherwise it's not worth a naturally bigger man to start at 154 especially when it's dangerous because of the weight loss.




If Golovkin had moved up and faced Ward and other plus Kovaleve and beat them both, that's all time great status recognition then everyone would still be talking about & his legacy and super fights against all time previous greats, anything else wouldn't matter because unlike Hagler who had loads of talent competition that he fought like Hearns & Ray and others GGG didn't have anybody but C level talent that he beat & nobody was dangerous at 160 until Canelo moved up, then he's dangerous to Golovkin but just lost to Floyd and barely beat Lara in a close fight that could've gone either way.





Is he challenging Froch ? Ward at 168 and others ? Nope. Ward wanted it but Golovkin refused the fight, he understood that he couldn't handle those guys, especially struggling with Canelo at 160,, he's not handling prime Ward & Kovalev anyway neither could Canelo, not in their prime.




Unlike Golovkin, Canelo moved up to light heavy and beat a washed up Kovalev and has better competition on his resume, including beating Golovkin in their rematch.


Canelo beating a past prime Kovalev doesn't get any credit until he's fighting prime champions cleaning them out, otherwise it's just a younger champion beating a washed up champion who's been struggling getting hurt seriously and previously knocked out, this is how this works.


GGG is just not relevant anymore and fantasy matchups or winning a title at 154 would mean absolutely nothing to anybody anyway, except his die hard fans, because he's fighting Spink's and Forest but not touching Floyd nor Canelo at that weight.
 
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s GGG didn't have anybody but C level talent
From your personal opinion. Nothing wrong here, everyone does have right on their own dreams.

Is he challenging Froch ? Ward at 168 and others ? Nope. Ward wanted it but Golovkin refused the fight, he understood that he couldn't handle those guys, especially struggling with Canelo at 160,, he's not handling prime Ward & Kovalev anyway neither could Canelo, not in their prime.
GGG had stuggled with Canelo like Canelo had struggled with GGG.

And, no I don't think that he might had won vs prime Kovalev, Gvozdyk, prime Beterbiev and so on.
Is this so bad and Canelo is so goood boxer therefore Canelo never in his holy life had balls to be tested and fight outside from US at hight level cos he is very good boxer?

LOL.

Ward had opportunity to fight vs prime and fresh Beterbiev, talk about this thing here.
Kovalev never in his life had in the ring nor Gvozdyk nor Beterbiev for a reason.
Like Clebuterol never had them in the ring in their prime. Nor also prime Kovalev or prime Ward.
 
GGG is just not relevant anymore
For normal ppl Canelo is not relevant and NEVER will be relevant.

Canelo beating a past prime Kovalev doesn't get any credit
Of course.
Like : if he had moved up to 175 lbs and had started to fight vs anyone with belts at 175 lbs like he now is attempting to do at 168 lbs, then there had been 0 questions about Canelo.
Nope, 1 old Kovalev and 0 anymore at 175 lbs.
Like: bulked up old Mosley and Khan for Canelo to fight with.
If he had trimmed down and was in their previous weight ins, again, here 0 questions might happen.

No one ever had been accused Ward, DLH, Holyfiled, Tyson, Holmes, Ali or even Wilder in stuff like Canelo: jumping up down in weight classes and catchweights with huge bunch with clauses. Never.

I btw don't think that Canelo now might beat prime shape 28 y.o Mosley version if this version was in Canelo own size and weight and age.
 
oh yeah nobody knows who golovkin is anymore.

the fuck you on about?

The ironic thing is, the more Canelo wins the better it makes Golovkin look. Canelo's legacy will actually help GGG be remembered for a long time.
 
The ironic thing is, the more Canelo wins the better it makes Golovkin look. Canelo's legacy will actually help GGG be remembered for a long time.
I don't think that anyone with a bit brains might care about empty words called belts, legacy and other sound and loud nonsnese, including stuff called HOF etc complete nonsense.

If Rigo looks that most likely had get lesser $ for fight vs Loma than wrestler for boxing fight vs YT lad and historically best ever paid pro boxing debut fight had lad with 0-0-0 pro record vs uncle in old Floyd.
LOL, this is only small beginning, with famous actors and artists etc alike persons they might earn considerably more than with these ranked pro boxers.
Old big names too, looks that old Mike had more interest than Whyte vs Povetkin I together with Whyte vs Povetkin II for 1 exib fight.
This is what this is here.

Prizefighters fight for $$$$$$$$$ and most likely nonsense called legacy they left to value for nerds in forums and history specialists.
No one will care.
 
I don't think that anyone with a bit brains might care about empty words called belts, legacy and other sound and loud nonsnese, including stuff called HOF etc complete nonsense.

If Rigo looks that most likely had get lesser $ for fight vs Loma than wrestler for boxing fight vs YT lad and historically best ever paid pro boxing debut fight had lad with 0-0-0 pro record vs uncle in old Floyd.
LOL, this is only small beginning, with famous actors and artists etc alike persons they might earn considerably more than with these ranked pro boxers.
Old big names too, looks that old Mike had more interest than Whyte vs Povetkin I together with Whyte vs Povetkin II for 1 exib fight.
This is what this is here.

Prizefighters fight for $$$$$$$$$ and most likely nonsense called legacy they left to value for nerds in forums and history specialists.
No one will care.

Didn't read.
 
The ironic thing is, the more Canelo wins the better it makes Golovkin look. Canelo's legacy will actually help GGG be remembered for a long time.

Golovkin won't be remembered because he hasn't done legendary things, except beat C level threats without moving up testing himself, he turned down fights with Ward and others because he was a threat but his competition at 160 wasn't a threat, he's a decent nice champion but he's not special, he's an average B level champion with power but he's not your A+ legendary champion that nobody forgets and makes videos after videos about, like Tyson and Hagler, nobodies making videos about GGG because he doesn't have that special talent and hasn't done special things in his career people don't like Floyd but everyone compares everyone to Floyd because Floyd is your A+ legendary champion that's done incredible things and has incredible boxing abilities skills, defense, ring IQ, so in the next 50 years everyone will be compared with Floyd I mean everyone, their style, boxing abilities, training; defense, everything they do will be compared scrutinized with what Floyd did because he's the bar his career is that level everyone should try and achieve not his crazy lifestyle that was done for show but training & in the ring, that's why GGG will be forgotten because he hasn't accomplished anything close to what Floyd has done. Manny also everyone will be compared with Manny also, nobody will compare future champions with GGG.


Not knocking him, but it's the truth.
 
Didn't read.
Very good. I'm happy that someone who is dreaming that prize fighting is not a business and carrer job instead of dreams about legacy, heritage and other bullshit will not read my posts.
I too never will read you smart posts and opinions anymore.

prizefighter easily might agree to do exib fight if this is paid 30k instead of 10 k for usable for pro ranking fight because this is job not " someone had been born to prove you something and you are his Master and fighters owner. You are just maybe fan, just maybe and they are business. In all their ranks and levels. ".
 
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