Google Stadia ***Update: Google shutting down the service***

[Madmick]

Cyberpunk 2077 Is Coming To Google Stadia

Cyberpunk 2077 may not be launching until next year, but now we know we'll have another option when deciding what platform to buy it on. Google opened its Gamescom presentation earlier this week with news that the much-anticipated CD Projekt Red game will be released on Google Stadia. The game was listed as "Coming Soon" rather than the already-known release date of April 16, 2020, so that could mean it's coming to Stadia after other platforms.

The Stadia is a streaming platform, which feeds video of your play session from a remote server, and it's set to launch this year. The list of games already announced for Stadia, in addition to Cyberpunk 2077, includes Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Mortal Kombat 11, Borderlands 3, The Elder Scrolls Online, and Samurai Shodown, among others.

Stadia will first launch in November 2019 as part of a special Founder's Edition for early adopters. The Stadia Base version will be available for free to everyone else following in 2020. You can pre-order the Stadia Founder's Edition right now. It costs $130 and includes a limited-edition night blue controller, a Chromecast Ultra, a three-month subscription to the Stadia Pro service, the opportunity to secure a username early, and a three-month Buddy Pass to Stadia Pro for a friend. Check out all we know about Google Stadia.

CD Projekt Red has confirmed the Cyberpunk 2077 release date for PS4, Xbox One, and PC as April 16, 2020. Although the developer has only confirmed a single-player campaign, at Gamescom it indicated that it was exploring a multiplayer option for Cyberpunk 2077. Similarly, it's contemplating what a New Game Plus mode could look like; at Gamescom, the developer disputed a recent suggestion that one would definitely be included.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Cyberpunk 2077 Is Coming To Google Stadia

Are they branding Stadia as a platform?

 

[Madmick]

Are they branding Stadia as a platform?

They seem pretty confused on whether they want to market the pitch as a service or a platform.


*Edit*
Ah, I see the hyperlink in that article is linked to the right place. While they continue to point out that some (Iike Pixel phone owners) will have access to the service with no added cost, here at launch, they're definitely pushing that Founder's Edition package as if it were synonymous with the name "Stadia" itself. Here's the hardware:
https://store.google.com/us/product...ublisher&utm_campaign=GS100534&utm_content=dr

For $130:

• Chromecast 4K Ultra
  $60 discrete value; in 2019 this is just an embarrassing price & hardware value in comparison to the NVIDIA Shield, Xiaomi MiBox, Fire TV Stick 4K, and the various Amlogic S9 Gen2 Family Android TV Boxes
  • Chipset: Marvell 88DE3006 (aka Armada 1500 Mini Plus) Dual Core ARM Cortex A9 Processor
  • 512MB RAM (LPDDR3)
  • 256MB Storage
  • WiFi 5 [1x2 Antennae]
  • Ports: HDMI 1.4a; 3.5mm Headphone Jack; Ethernet; Micro-USB (for power only)
• Google Stadia Controller
  $70 discrete value; $30-$47 open market value relative to other dual analog controllers though it has some hardware advantages
  • WiFi 5 dual-band + Bluetooth 4.2 networking
  • 3.5mm Headphone Jack
  • USB-C + Rechargeable battery
  • Built-in Mic (automatic Google Assistant and Live Recording buttons)
  • 9.45 oz.
• 3-months Google Stadia Pro subscription
  $30 discrete value = 3 x $9.99 monthly
• 3-months "Buddy Pass"
  Can't estimate discrete value because it isn't clear. It looks like this will be 3 free months of Stadia Pro subscription you can gift to a friend, but I suspect it will only work as long as your own account is active. It's not clear if they will allow simultaneous sign-ins, but I expect they will. The dirty is that it will only roll out some 6 months after the launch of the service

The product isn't ready, and the hardware value of this package is atrocious. It's impossible to recommend, and I fully expect this price to crash within the first year of its launch.

 

[Mr. 4K]

Updated: Nvidia Shield TV refresh is in the works with a new controller, better performance and possible Stadia support

Digital Trends had a more skeptical take that it doesn't make sense for NVIDIA to eat into their GeForce Now market, and I favor their argument. This doesn't seem to make sense to me unless NVIDIA intends to abandon that project, and there have been no signs this is the case. DT also opined that it doesn't make sense for Google to position the upcoming NVIDIA Shield as the flagship to the service since the grand selling point of the service is the promise to eliminate consoles and expensive hardware from the game delivery equation.

Nevertheless, Phone Arena also reports there is a new controller in the works for the upcoming revision to the Shield, which has long dominated all the other non-PC HTPC options on the market in terms of overall capability, but that the cheapest variant will come without a controller in case customers order a Stadia controller.

I'm a bit nervous about the XDA leaked report the upcoming revision will be virtually identical to the current 2nd-Gen NVIDIA Shield, but with a "tweaked" Tegra X1 processor. Optimists believe this may be to achieve the same performance at lower temps and power draws, but the cynic in me fears a new security lockdown intended to thwart rooting of the device:
https://www.xda-developers.com/nvidia-shield-android-tv-refreshed-tegra-x1/

So is this something that can play pc games?

 

[Arthur Morgan]

If i already own a chromecast ultra 4k, can I just preorder the controller??

 

[Madmick]

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/google-stadia-release-date-games,news-29665.html
Here's a list of some of the key games coming to Google Stadia:

• Assassin's Creed Odyssey
• Attack on Titan Final Battle
• Baldur’s Gate III
• Borderlands 3
• Cyberpunk 2077
• Darksiders: Genesis
• Destiny 2
• The Division 2
• Dragonball Xenoverse 2
• The Elder Scrolls Online
• Final Fantasy XV
• Get Packed
• Ghost Recon Breakpoint
• Grid
• Gylt
• Just Dance 2019
• Kine
• Metro Exodus
• Mortal Kombat 11
• Orcs Must Die 3
• Power Rangers: Battle for the Grid
• Samurai Shodown
• Superhot
• Tomb Raider Triilogy
• Watch Dogs: Legion
• Windjammers 2
• Wolfenstein: Youngblood

At E3 2019, Ubisoft announced that its new Uplay+ service, which grants access to 100-plus games for a $15 monthly fee, will work with Google Stadia. No word yet on whether there will be a bundle deal for getting both services together, or if you have to pay for them separately.
FULL LIST OF GAMES COMING TO UPLAY+ REVEALED

Spoiler: Uplay+ Games

• Anno 1800 - Deluxe Edition
• Anno 2205 - Ultimate Edition
• Assassin's Creed - Director's Cut
• Assassin's Creed Brotherhood - Deluxe Edition
• Assassin's Creed Chronicles - China
• Assassin's Creed Chronicles - India
• Assassin's Creed Chronicles - Russia
• Assassin's Creed Freedom Cry - Standalone Edition
• Assassin's Creed II - Deluxe Edition
• Assassin's Creed III + Liberation Remastered
• Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag - Gold Edition
• Assassin's Creed Odyssey - Ultimate Edition*
• Assassin's Creed Origins - Gold Edition*
• Assassin's Creed Origins - Discovery Tour
• Assassin's Creed Revelations - Standard Edition
• Assassin's Creed Rogue - Deluxe Edition
• Assassin's Creed Syndicate - Gold Edition*
• Assassin's Creed Unity - Standard Edition
• Beyond Good and Evil
• Brothers in Arms: Earned In Blood
• Brothers in Arms: Hells Highway
• Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30
• Child of Light
• Cold Fear
• Far Cry 2 - Fortune's Edition
• Far Cry 3 - Blood Dragon (Standalone)
• Far Cry 3 - Deluxe Edition
• Far Cry 4 - Gold Edition
• Far Cry 5 - Gold Edition*
• Far Cry New Dawn - Deluxe Edition
• Far Cry Primal - Digital Apex Edition
• Flashback Origin
• For Honor - Marching Fire Edition
• From Dust
• Gods & Monsters (coming soon)
• I Am Alive
• Imperialism
• Imperialism 2
• Lock On: Modern Air Combat
• Might & Magic IX
• Might & Magic VII - For Blood And Honor
• Might & Magic VIII -Day of the Destroyer
• Might & Magic X Legacy - Deluxe Edition
• Might & Magic: Heroes II - Gold Edition
• Might & Magic: Heroes III - Complete Edition
• Might & Magic: Heroes V - Standard Edition
• Might & Magic: Heroes VI - Gold Edition
• Might & Magic: Heroes VI - Shades of Darkness
• Might & Magic: Heroes VII - Deluxe Edition
• Might & Magic: Heroes VII - Trial by Fire
• Monopoly PLUS
• Ode
• Panzer General 2
• Panzer General 3D assault
• Petz Horsez 2
• POD Gold
• Prince of Persia (2008)
• Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands - Deluxe Edition
• Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
• Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
• Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
• Rayman 2
• Rayman 3
• Rayman Forever
• Rayman Legends
• Rayman Origins
• Rayman Raving Rabbids
• Silent Hunter 2
• Silent Hunter 3
• Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific - Gold Edition
• Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic - Gold Edition
• South Park: The Fractured but Whole - Gold Edition
• South Park: The Stick of Truth - Standard Edition
• Speed Buster
• Starlink - Digital Deluxe Starter Kit
• Steep - X Games Gold Edition*
• The Crew - Ultimate Edition*
• The Crew 2 - Gold Edition*
• The Settlers 1 - History Edition
• The Settlers 2 - History Edition
• The Settlers 3 - History Edition
• The Settlers 4 - History Edition
• The Settlers 5: Heritage of the Kings - History Edition
• The Settlers 6: Rise of an Empire - History Edition
• The Settlers 7: Paths to a Kingdom - History Edition
• Tom Clancy's EndWar
• Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
• Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Future Soldier - Deluxe Edition
• Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands – Ultimate Edition*
• Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint - Gold Edition (coming soon)
• Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six - Standard Edition
• Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3 - Gold Edition
• Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Lockdown
• Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege – Ultimate Year Four Edition*
• Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
• Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas II
• Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Quarantine (coming soon)
• Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
• Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Blacklist - Deluxe Edition
• Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
• Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Conviction - Deluxe Edition
• Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent
• Tom Clancy's The Division - Gold Edition
• Tom Clancy's The Division 2 - Ultimate Edition
• Trackmania Turbo
• Transference - Uplay
• Trials Evolution - Gold Edition
• Trials Fusion Awesome Level Max Edition
• Trials Rising - Gold Edition
• Uno
• Valiant Hearts
• Warlords Battlecry
• Warlords Battlecry 2
• Watch_Dogs - Complete Edition
• Watch_Dogs 2 - Gold Edition
• Watch_Dogs Legion Ultimate Edition* (coming soon)
• World In Conflict - Complete Edition
• Zombi

 

[Madmick]

So is this something that can play pc games?

Yes, but not directly. They are streamed via the cloud similar to the PSNow service before it let you download games locally to the PS4.

The NVIDIA Shield TV has widely been regarded as the best streaming media player on the market for power users since it was released four years ago (top competitors are the Roku devices, Apple TV, Amazon Fire TV, Google Chromecast, Android TV Boxes, etc.).

It has the same horsepower as a Nintendo Switch (they run on the exact same chipset). Unlike other media streaming players it comes with a dual-analog controller. This is probably most useful for emulation, but it's also nifty for the niche of Android games that support a controller. However, it's primary commercial intention was so that Shield owners would be attracted to NVIDIA's GeForce Now service. When the Shield launched that was $7.99/mo, but in May 2018, it became a free service. Here are all the games you can stream via this service. You have to own the game on Steam, UPlay, Epic, or Blizzard's Battle.net service in order to play:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/geforce-now/supported-games/

GeForce Now FAQ:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/geforce-now/faq/

If i already own a chromecast ultra 4k, can I just preorder the controller??

Yes.

 

[Mr. 4K]

Yes, but not directly. They are streamed via the cloud similar to the PSNow service before it let you download games locally to the PS4.

The NVIDIA Shield TV has widely been regarded as the best streaming media player on the market for power users since it was released four years ago (top competitors are the Roku devices, Apple TV, Amazon Fire TV, Google Chromecast, Android TV Boxes, etc.).

It has the same horsepower as a Nintendo Switch (they run on the exact same chipset). Unlike other media streaming players it comes with a dual-analog controller. This is probably most useful for emulation, but it's also nifty for the niche of Android games that support a controller. However, it's primary commercial intention was so that Shield owners would be attracted to NVIDIA's GeForce Now service. When the Shield launched that was $7.99/mo, but in May 2018, it became a free service. Here are all the games you can stream via this service. You have to own the game on Steam, UPlay, Epic, or Blizzard's Battle.net service in order to play:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/geforce-now/supported-games/

GeForce Now FAQ:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/geforce-now/faq/

Yes.

I might buy this. Thanks for the info.

 

[method115]

I might buy this. Thanks for the info.

I have one strictly for streaming with Kodi and it's great. They recently updated it to resolve some HDR issue they were having and the colors are much better now.

 

[cmw43]

They seem pretty confused on whether they want to market the pitch as a service or a platform.


*Edit*
Ah, I see the hyperlink in that article is linked to the right place. While they continue to point out that some (Iike Pixel phone owners) will have access to the service with no added cost, here at launch, they're definitely pushing that Founder's Edition package as if it were synonymous with the name "Stadia" itself. Here's the hardware:
https://store.google.com/us/product...ublisher&utm_campaign=GS100534&utm_content=dr

For $130:

• Chromecast 4K Ultra
  $60 discrete value; in 2019 this is just an embarrassing price & hardware value in comparison to the NVIDIA Shield, Xiaomi MiBox, Fire TV Stick 4K, and the various Amlogic S9 Gen2 Family Android TV Boxes
  • Chipset: Marvell 88DE3006 (aka Armada 1500 Mini Plus) Dual Core ARM Cortex A9 Processor
  • 512MB RAM (LPDDR3)
  • 256MB Storage
  • WiFi 5 [1x2 Antennae]
  • Ports: HDMI 1.4a; 3.5mm Headphone Jack; Ethernet; Micro-USB (for power only)
• Google Stadia Controller
  $70 discrete value; $30-$47 open market value relative to other dual analog controllers though it has some hardware advantages
  • WiFi 5 dual-band + Bluetooth 4.2 networking
  • 3.5mm Headphone Jack
  • USB-C + Rechargeable battery
  • Built-in Mic (automatic Google Assistant and Live Recording buttons)
  • 9.45 oz.
• 3-months Google Stadia Pro subscription
  $30 discrete value = 3 x $9.99 monthly
• 3-months "Buddy Pass"
  Can't estimate discrete value because it isn't clear. It looks like this will be 3 free months of Stadia Pro subscription you can gift to a friend, but I suspect it will only work as long as your own account is active. It's not clear if they will allow simultaneous sign-ins, but I expect they will. The dirty is that it will only roll out some 6 months after the launch of the service

The product isn't ready, and the hardware value of this package is atrocious. It's impossible to recommend, and I fully expect this price to crash within the first year of its launch.

Isn't the point that you don't need a $1500 top of the range PC to stream the games in high quality since you're getting them direct from the cloud? But the NVIDA Shield streams off your expensive pc so it does a different job or have I misunderstood something?

 

[Madmick]

Isn't the point that you don't need a $1500 top of the range PC to stream the games in high quality since you're getting them direct from the cloud? But the NVIDA Shield streams off your expensive pc so it does a different job or have I misunderstood something?

A high-end gaming PC isn't necessary. You're confusing cloud streaming with local mirroring such as devices like the failed Steam Link enabled.

Local Mirroring
(Steam Link)

The Steam Link was a cheap way to have the power of your $1500 Gaming PC (and the games it could run) mirrored onto a second screen on the same WiFi network. Since many gamers have their gaming PC in their home bedroom this was a convenient way to broadcast the image to the TV in the living room (often the largest display in the house) without having to buy a second gaming PC. The Link was originally $50, or $80 bundled with the Steam Controller, though it eventually dropped all the way down to $15 before being discontinued.

The Steam Link wasn't without picture quality issues, but the issue usually wasn't the Link itself. It was (1) the home router or the router's distance from the second display/Link, or (2) weakness of the PC itself. For the first, due to weak hardware or the distance-- often traveling through walls--the router's wireless throughput (locally) wasn't sufficient to stream the compressed video. For the second, often the gaming PC wasn't powerful enough to both play the game and encode/compress the video stream simultaneously to deliver to the Link; the same problem many Twitch streamers face who don't have a really powerful PC, or a second PC devoted solely to compressing and streaming their gameplay.

We're nearing the point where the Link's functionality will be pretty flawless even for mainstream users, because mainstream routers and sub-$200 PC CPUs are that good, but it's no longer needed because almost all TVs are "Smart" now meaning they ship with a chipset and wireless network receiver inside them. So Valve has shifted to focusing on developing a universally compliant Steam Link app that will allow these TVs to act as the Link itself. The Steam Link app also lets you mirror to a tablet or a phone, and it won't be limited to local WiFi.
Steam Link

Spoiler: Steam Link

Cloud Streaming
(Google Stadia, NVIDIA GeForce Now, Sony PSNow, Ubisoft UPlay+, Vortex, Shadow, EA Project Alpha, Microsoft xCloud)

On the other hand, with GeForce Now, NVIDIA is running the game on NVIDIA servers, compressing the video, and then transmitting that video via the internet to your receiving device-- the NVIDIA Shield TV. The UPlay+ service that Ubisoft just announced for the Google Stadia does the exact same thing, but it will transmit this to the Chromecast Ultra 4K, or any other device that can run Stadia's service. This is the same way that PSNow works if you haven't downloaded the game to your PS4 itself. Sony's servers run the game, then stream the video to your PS4.

This introduces latency and picture quality reductions due to the limitations of one's internet speeds, and the distance the data (at the speed of light) has to travel between your home device and the nearest server. It's worse than issues that already existed with the Steam Link because the throughput (aka bandwidth) of a wireless router is far superior locally, inside the house, than the speeds of our internet connections. Fortunately, the second issue with Steam Link isn't a problem, because the servers-- unlike some home PCs-- are the most powerful in the world, so they have no problem playing the games at the highest quality, and compressing the video stream.

GeForce Now is free, now, but they also limit your gameplay to 4-hour sessions to free up those servers to serve other users. Uplay+ is going to be $15/mo which is a stupid price considering how limited their library is, and the fact the technology hasn't yet matured. It won't have fully matured until servers sprinkle every corner of the earth, and we all run our internet at Google Fiber optic speeds. Although for single player and co-op it's already good for those who don't live in the boondocks, or who aren't limited to shitty internet service providers (the kind still offering 25 Mbps or lower packages, or supplying terrible ping times).

You don't have to own a PC to play-- or even buy-- the game. Ownership of PC games is licensed in the cloud. So you can use the NVIDIA Shield (or a smartphone, tablet, office PC, etc) to buy a PC game on Steam, and then stream that game via GeForce Now to the NVIDIA Shield. NVIDIA is only checking that you are a registered owner of the game. There's no consumer PC involved in the process.

 

[thehighking]

I'd never buy any google product. I already hate myself for using their convenient services

 

[Madmick]

An Endgadget video from a few months ago:




The E3 hands-on (shown earlier in this thread) for Project xCloud:




Digital Trends > Microsoft xCloud: Everything we know (July 24, 2019)
Don't forget that Microsoft still has the strongest global server farm network in the world by MILES:

What is Project xCloud?
Project xCloud is Microsoft’s video game streaming service, allowing players to instantly stream console and PC games to their device of choice using an internet connection. Similar to the system used by Google Stadia, you won’t download the games you play in Project xCloud. Instead, they’ll be streamed from Microsoft’s own servers, which make use of the Azure Cloud architecture that has been implemented in games like Crackdown 3 and Titanfall. There are 54 different Azure regions around the globe, which should provide stable service to users regardless of their location.

Project xCloud is not designed to replace traditional disc-based and digital gaming. Instead, Microsoft hopes for it to open up console-quality gaming to those who currently lack the necessary hardware to do so or can only play on mobile devices. It also means players will be able to enjoy a particular Xbox or PC game they’re interested in without having to purchase an entire system...

How will Project xCloud work?
Project xCloud will use Microsoft’s Azure data centers’ hardware to render gaming experiences remotely, and the games will then be streamed to your device of choice. The only requirement is that you have a strong network connection so you will be able to play games at home, as well as while you are traveling. Each server blade has the internals of four Xbox One S systems, if the demonstration video Microsoft released is accurate.

The same cloud saving system currently used to make Xbox Play Anywhere— the cross-buy program for Xbox One and PC — possible will also be used in Project xCloud. This means that if you are playing a game at home and need to leave, you will be able to pick up directly where you left off.

During a demonstration on Inside Xbox in March, we got to see our first look at Project xCloud in action. Running on the Azure data centers’ servers, Forza Horizon 4 was shown streaming to an Android phone, with quality similar to that of the console game. The framerate appeared to be identical, allowing for an experience that was not pared down in any way to work through streaming.

It’s unclear how this quality will compare to the upcoming next-generation Xbox system or systems. According to 3D Realms VP Frederik Schreiber, the console will exceed the capabilities of Google Stadia. When we have concrete technical details on xCloud, it will be easier to make a direct comparison.

In order to optimize the experience for mobile players, Microsoft will offer multiple control options. These include the ability to use an Xbox One controller via Bluetooth — a feature all new Xbox One controllers have — and touch support will also be offered. Rather than using a one-size-fits-all control scheme for touchscreens, games will also get their own unique setups to best suit the actions players will be doing.

You won’t be limited to just a handful of Project xCloud enabled games, either. Microsoft plans to allow users to play their entire library of Xbox One games, as well as those Microsoft has released on PC. With more than 3,000 games available on Xbox One alone, it’s an enormous library, and developers won’t have to do anything on their end to make their games work with the Project xCloud service.

PRICING
Thus far, Microsoft has not revealed pricing information for Project xCloud. Seeing as the recently-announced Xbox Game Pass Ultimate will set subscribers back $15 per month, we anticipate Project xCloud will cost around the same.

 

[HereticBD]

Did anyone seriously dive into to this shit? I haven't heard one peep about Stadia since it launched. Like Google is embarrassed, or something. I could never get over the fact that you were paying a subscription fee, just for the opportunity to buy games at full price and stream them on their service. You're paying a fee for the "privilege" of buying games readily available on every other platform. Only with Stadia, you MUST rely on internet connectivity for EVERY game to even work properly.

Am I wrong here? Does Stadia seem like a project dreamed up by a bunch of tech junkies, who really have no idea about how the gaming industry works, or is it just me?

Anyone try it out? Thoughts?

 

[ShadowNINku]

Physical copies are still king! Digital only is crap. I say this from the point of view of the ability to have a resell market that is better for the consumers.

I had forgotten that the thing even came out.

 

[7even]

Physical copies are still king! Digital only is crap. I say this from the point of view of the ability to have a resell market that is better for the consumers.

I had forgotten that the thing even came out.

Actually digital is taking over physical copies. What people have a problem is not actually owning the game and not having it installed in their hard drive in their console. They don’t want to pay to stream a game and not actually have it.
Streaming and digital copies are not the same.

 

[rob mafia]

Did anyone seriously dive into to this shit? I haven't heard one peep about Stadia since it launched. Like Google is embarrassed, or something. I could never get over the fact that you were paying a subscription fee, just for the opportunity to buy games at full price and stream them on their service. You're paying a fee for the "privilege" of buying games readily available on every other platform. Only with Stadia, you MUST rely on internet connectivity for EVERY game to even work properly.

Am I wrong here? Does Stadia seem like a project dreamed up by a bunch of tech junkies, who really have no idea about how the gaming industry works, or is it just me?

Anyone try it out? Thoughts?

i think it was what pretty much all of us expected: a cart before the horse.

the limited library, hardware gaffes, questionable pricing, and lack of ownership were added bonuses.

 

[Deleted member 263856]

Did anyone seriously dive into to this shit? I haven't heard one peep about Stadia since it launched. Like Google is embarrassed, or something. I could never get over the fact that you were paying a subscription fee, just for the opportunity to buy games at full price and stream them on their service. You're paying a fee for the "privilege" of buying games readily available on every other platform. Only with Stadia, you MUST rely on internet connectivity for EVERY game to even work properly.

Am I wrong here? Does Stadia seem like a project dreamed up by a bunch of tech junkies, who really have no idea about how the gaming industry works, or is it just me?

Anyone try it out? Thoughts?

Fucking have to explain this a million times. I don't have stadia but I'm thinking about getting it next holiday season when next gen consoles come along. You can pay a fee and then you get some games for free and you get 4k. You can opt out from paying a fee and you get 1080p and no free games. I'm a dad with work and hobbies and shit to do. I have time to play games every once in a while but not very often. Next Christmas I'm faced with a choice, buy a next gen console for 600 + subscription for ps+ or Xbox gold and have it collect dust most of the time. Or stadia for a 100+ bucks and have Google handle the back end stuff. Which one do you think I'll go for? I boggles my mind when companies offer more choices and people go "You suck!" If it's not for you, then don't buy it. Simple.

 

[vcmmafan]

Did they shut It down?

With xCloud and Sony's game streaming I don't see why anyone would go for Stadia tbh. They have massive libraries already. Many of which are exclusive games.

Sony is even working WITH Microsoft on their streaming. iirc Sony uses Microsoft's streaming infrastructure

 

[rob mafia]

Fucking have to explain this a million times. I don't have stadia but I'm thinking about getting it next holiday season when next gen consoles come along. You can pay a fee and then you get some games for free and you get 4k. You can opt out from paying a fee and you get 1080p and no free games. I'm a dad with work and hobbies and shit to do. I have time to play games every once in a while but not very often. Next Christmas I'm faced with a choice, buy a next gen console for 600 + subscription for ps+ or Xbox gold and have it collect dust most of the time. Or stadia for a 100+ bucks and have Google handle the back end stuff. Which one do you think I'll go for? I boggles my mind when companies offer more choices and people go "You suck!" If it's not for you, then don't buy it. Simple.

i don't think it's so much that a company gives an option and we yell "you suck!" ... as much as it's a company with google's rep (we're all on google+, right?) making grandiose claims and doing so seemingly with either no first-hand knowledge of 'gaming issues' (ie: latency, desync, rubber-banding) or with arrogant spin regarding such. but... i mean, google fiber was a huge hit and covers the nation, so we should all have no problem.

i can't tell which part of stadia was a plan for a long con cash-grab (ie: subscription), which was people legitimately believing it's the future of gaming and feasible now, which is r&d/data collection, and etc.