Movies James Gunn's SUPERMAN (First Look at New Superman with New Suit, post #631)

[some random guy]

Hopefully they can at least salvage Pierce Brosnan/Doctor Fate from the Black Adam movie so we don't lose another great casting that happened with Mark Strong/Sinestro from Green Lantern.

 

[mixmastermo]

Update: December 7, 2022

Patty Jenkins' WONDER WOMAN 3 Not Moving Forward; BLACK ADAM 2 Is Unlikely; Jason Momoa Possibly to Play Lobo

Call it DC Rebirth or DC: Genesis. Maybe call it Identity Crisis or Flashpoint. These titles of past DC comics event series aptly describe the state of Warner Bros.’ DC movies, which are on the cusp of a new era but not before a potentially messy transition period.

A cleaning of the slate is common when a new executive team is put in place to run a studio or division but there is likely little precedent for the amount of Clorox James Gunn and Peter Safran could spray as they prepare to launch DC Studios and guide superhero movies for the next half decade and beyond.

The duo in recent days flew back to Los Angeles from the snowy city of Aspen, Colorado, where they were huddled in deep planning, and now like holy figures coming down from the mountaintop, have sets of commandments or a DC Bible in hand. Or at least a working blueprint.

Gunn and Safran are expected to meet next week with David Zaslav, the Warner Bros. Discovery CEO who is radically reshaping the media company and who hired the duo in October to lead a newly launched film and TV division. The pair will unveil to Zaslav a plan that is expected to lay out their vision. Although much of their plan, which insiders paint as still a work-in-progress and one that has yet to be approved, is being kept deep in the Batcave, details of several possible paths forward are trickling out. And at least one path not being taken has also been revealed.

Multiple sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Patty Jenkins’ Wonder Woman 3 is not moving forward and is considered dead in its current incarnation.

Sources say that Jenkins recently submitted her treatment, co-written with Geoff Johns, and that Gunn and Safran, as well as Warner Bros. Pictures co-chairs and co-CEOs Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy, broke the news to the filmmaker, telling her the project — as it stood — did not fit in with the new (but still unfolding) plans. Jenkins directed and co-wrote the previous two movies, starring Gal Gadot and released in 2017 and 2020. No decision has been made about next steps.

And while costs are not a factor — insiders say that DC Studios will not have any overburdensome financial restrictions — the studio could end up saving tens of millions of dollars by not making the third installment. Gadot, according to sources, was on track for a $20 million payday for Wonder Woman 3 while Jenkins would have received $12 million. Those figures don’t include any possible backend bonuses.

It is unclear how any future Wonder Woman movie, and Gadot’s portrayal of the hero, would fit into the new DC plan. In a bit of head-scratching timing, Gadot tweeted out of the blue a thank you to fans on Tuesday, saying she was grateful to be allowed to play the heroine and role model, adding, “Can’t wait to share her next chapter with you.” It was unclear whether or not the actress knew the project was being toe-tagged.

The rest of the DC slate remains in flux, or at least being kept deep in a pocket of Gunn’s own utility belt but there are several rumors and possible scenarios to consider ahead of next week’s meeting.

Also unlikely is a sequel to Black Adam. Despite the hype surrounding the movie of launching a new corner of DC, a lot of it led by star Dwayne Johnson, the movie has only grossed $385 million worldwide and insiders at the studio say the movie, which cost more than $190 million to produce (two sources peg the actual cost at $230 million, not including marketing), will be lucky to break even, even considering ancillary revenue. Even if the movie does eke out a minimal profit, any follow-up’s inherent rising costs dim the prospect of a sequel.

Johnson hoped to carve out his own piece of the DC pie, but multiple sources say his playing up of a returning Cavill and his own involvement with DC may not be endearing him to the new management. Johnson and Cavill are both managed by Dany Garcia, who is also Johnson’s producing partner. The perception of Adam turning a profit or not is a conflagration now being waged in public, with Johnson tweeting the movie would net over $50 million after a Variety story said the movie would lose over $50 million theatrically.

Momoa, meanwhile, could emerge as a pivotal figure into the new plans, according to several sources. In one scenario, the actor would wrap up his days as underwater hero Arthur Curry with Lost City, due out Dec. 25, 2023, which would be the final movie released that was made by the previous regime. But it would not spell the end of the actor’s involvement with DC, with sources saying the actor would lead another movie or franchise. The character of Lobo, a foul-mouthed cigar-chomping intergalactic bounty hunter, has been mentioned in connection with Momoa.

Whether or not Momoa does play everybody’s favorite bastich, Lobo emerging as a rising character early on in the conversation may point to the kinds of characters the Gunn-Safran team may be focusing on. The character is an outsider, an anti-hero, and is keeping in line with Gunn’s specialty of taking the off-beat and quirky and flipping it into crowd-pleasing fare.

Observers are convinced the plan calls for an interconnected story universe and there is rumblings of the establishment of a creative brain trust. The brain trust may be already rolling in some capacity as sources say that Safran had in recent weeks been meeting with writers at his Los Angeles home in an effort to hone the presentation, gathering feedback and ideas for the plan.

One part that the Gunn-Safran agenda seems likely not to touch, at least for now, is the Matt Reeves Batman universe in which Robert Pattinson dons the cowl of the Caped Crusader. Reeves is writing the sequel to The Batman, which opened in March 4. The filmmaker is also overseeing the launch of two Batman series that spin out of his movie, including The Penguin.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...an-3-not-moving-forward-dc-movies-1235276804/

Hmm I'd like to see Henry Cavill return as Superman.. even if it's a different version than Snyder"s interpretation of the character.

I do think Henry has enough range and charisma to play the character well. Plus he just seems like a cool dude

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

The Snyder cult and some DC fans are having a meltdown in social media.

 

[LEWIS540]

The only real acting The Rock has done is Be Cool. Side note, was just reading prior to this thread Black Adam may end up losing a cool 100 mil.

Rock talking bollocks.

 

[Excelsior]

Ragnarok was a fantastic film and is in no way comparable to WW2.

I wanted to say the sequel to Ragnarok, Love & Thunder. Just kind of forgot to finish my thought.

 

[taurus]

Sucks for Black Adam 2. I would've dig it. Even if the first movie was bad, there was plenty of things to build from. Hope he gets another shot in a Shazam sequel (or the one after that).

WW was never good. Even the first one was a mediocre movie, and it was forbidden to criticize it bcs.. you know... female superhero, female writer/producer thing, and Gal is pleasing to the eye.

You can't be aquaman and Lobo at the same time

Yes, you can. You can just, I don't know, snap your fingers and be someone else in the MCU/DCEU.

Spoiler

As simple as that.


On a serious note, while people will be confused, I'd rather have a god Lobo character in a good movie than have character/actor continuity in a lousy movie. Let Gunn do his vision on a broader scale. After GOTG, SS and Peacemaker, he deserves his shot.

WW84 was the perfect example of a film maker being given too much power. Left unfettered, she turned in an absolute shit fest of a movie. Same exact thing happened with Thor Ragnarok.

I understand your point. That said, comparing WW82 with Thor Ragnarok in any way, shape or form, warrants only one answer (and I mean this in the most polite possible way)

Spoiler

 

[AFanNotAFighter]

I couldn't make it through the first one with Gal. So dull.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Whether or not Momoa does play everybody’s favorite bastich, Lobo emerging as a rising character early on in the conversation

@Kryptt would likely sponaniously orgasm for dayz if this works out. I also might. It soundz fantastic! and Mamoa seemz perfect for it.

 

[Halge]

I couldn't make it through the first one with Gal. So dull.

You could remove one 30 second action scene from Wonder Woman 1, and that movie would be absolute garbage. You all know which one.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

You could remove one 30 second action scene from Wonder Woman 1, and that movie would be absolute garbage. You all know which one.

mustache man?

 

[Kryptt]

@Kryptt would likely sponaniously orgasm for dayz if this works out. I also might. It soundz fantastic! and Mamoa seemz perfect for it.

Lol Indeed!

Hey he has already played a Wolf!

I still have an original copy of the Lobo Paramilitary Xmass Special somewhere!

Would love to see it made...DC doesn't inspire confidence however, but I've enjoyed a few of their outings. Will see!

 

[Protectandserve]

If Dwayne was genuinely invested in the Black Adam role for the right reason,
1. He should have worn the character's signature hair.
2. He should have at least put on an accent.
3. He should have taken a humble L against Shazam first before doing his ego-driven solo movie.

Agree on all points.
1 and 2 are just him being lazy.

For 3, he could have easily kept his swagger and had Black Adam be whooping on Shazam (as this is a brand new first outing Shazam) and then still brought in Cavil. Have Supes show up, they tag team Black Adam and he retreats with a grudge against both.

Sets him up for a solo outing and as a major threat both.

 

[StocktonMuhfuh]

when I say i could have crafted a better DC cinematic universe I'm honestly not exaggerating. What a disaster. They can/could only succeed with a complete recasting, new "timeline", something

 

[Pride23]

Good, burn it all down and start a new.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I'm just sticking the DC Universe Animated Original Movies (which are better than anything MCU) and leaving live action DC alone.

 

[Tito Tapped]

Black Adam was absolute garbage and The Rock might be the worst actor of all time.

 

[JBSchroeds]

At least DC is consistent: consistently fucked.

*sigh*

I hope they are able to keep Cavill for a Superman reboot.

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Rock talking bollocks.

 

[terrapin]

I wanted to say the sequel to Ragnarok, Love & Thunder. Just kind of forgot to finish my thought.

well in that case you are dead on man. love and thunder is about as big a letdown as ww2.

 

[terrapin]

if anything the absolute failure of dc to make any relevant super hero flicks based on characters that are already loved and revered just shows what an amazing accomplishment marvels last ten years has been. while there have been a few less than stellar movies put out in that time for the most part they have been wonderful.

since end game its been a lot more hit and miss... i did not even finish love and thunder and cant see how talking about orgies with a fully naked thor is appropriate for kids (wtf actually!!) and thats a side from the shit EVERYTHING else on that movie.... but we have spider man, hulk, guardians of the galaxy and dc strange along with black panther to look forward to.


but most of the worst marvel offerings have been far better than anything dc has done aside from the dark night.