i wasn't really referring to rose as a lesser fighter, he still won a title and people have heard of him. i was actually thinking of hector thompson, a really good fighter that had the misfortune of being a lightweight in duran's era. legend has it that he broke durans rips. he possessed one of the strongest punches i have ever seen, his right uppercut counter. on a side note have you seen the way cervantes would counter with a lead uppercut moving backwards?
it's not a punch i have seen anybody else throw.