Opinion Meta: The War Room can't hold a discussion

[NastyNinja]

Following the thread title "Gas the Ozzies" and an increase in the hysterical nature of comments in the War Room I decided to do a search for the word Nazi for posts in the last week. I did so with Godwin's Law in mind, which states:

"as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches. In less mathematical terms, the longer the discussion, the more likely a Nazi comparison becomes, and with long enough discussions, it is a certainty."

The intended takeaway from this list is to recognise that the War Room is not constructively holding conversations and is at the point of comedic parody. Perhaps the enlightened amongst us will recognise the same hysteria with anti Donald Trump rhetoric.

Here's the results:
https://forums.sherdog.com/threadloom/search?keywords=Nazi&date=2021-09-05&nodes[0]=54

1. That was clearly taken out of context you racist Nazi xenophobe.
2. So you agree that this is basically the same as Nazi Germany then?
3. But he's a communist nazi according to these morons.
4. How was giving vaccines like the nazis? It seems like anytime anyone does anything you don't like you just call them a nazi.
5. Only 6 completely out of touch nazi so far…this is good ...
6. You would have been an absolute all star in Nazi Germany.
7. It’s literally Nazi level propaganda. How can the left support this shit?
8. Nazi scientists they recruited. The Russians Space Program was built on the same fundamentals as the U.S.
9. yup this is just like nazi Germany. Spot on. Almost exactly the same thing. 100% the same thing ...
10. People are being indoctrinated Nazi style on a daily basis to dehumanize a portion of the population. The people who think they're woke that have been fighting "Nazis" for the last few years are just what we suspected them to be all along ...
11. The Nazis did'nt use chemical gas during warfare in WW2 or the battle of Britain. So the actual risk of chemical attack was zero.
12. EYES Why haven't the mask nazis been pushing and wearing goggles!
13. more like white supremacy = 7 islamic terrorism = 998 of course today some guy who visited few neo nazis sites and then beats up a minority after a disagreement is considered "white supremacy terrorism" ...
14. Three of the four times I used it was in reference to Unite the Right, which was wall to wall Nazi symbolism. Does that event not warrant being called Nazi? While it's possible, maybe even likely it was mostly cosplay, I'm curious if ...
15. So, there were even some Jews who helped the Nazis. I mean, would race really matter to a man willing to force children to get jabbed by an experimental vaccine.
16. It's not like they weren't rocking the Trump is a fascist/ nazi signs after he called the feds in to protect federal buildings ...
17. There were some Nazis there, and many non-Nazis. Two of my good friends were there, and we went on a long hike a few weeks after that. Their take is that they showed up, saw that the whole thing was basically a set up, and left. I ...
18. how almost every video clip on line cuts out right before the part about him talking about the Neo Nazis and white supremacists...why don't you actually try listening to the full line for yourself? Starts at 1:55: ...
19. You do realize that when the Nazi's took over Germany and much of europe they forced people to wear mask and get vaccinated. Some gyms even required people to be vaccinated. It was such a tragic time that it pains me to talk about it.
20. really is a slap in the face to people that actually have had family that had to face the atrocities of nazis or communists. Or when swastikas are drawn on Jewish politician signs, it’s not seen as an issue. But hey, I guess we are too ...
21. The US even granted immunity and shipped over select Nazi war criminals to aid them in all types of expermintation and testing even within the US. Nazis were into all kinds of crazy shit in their labs. Documents literally got traded for ...
22. Starting Jan 22, good luck finding bacon or chops in Cali. smh, enviro-nazis at it again.
23. Vaccine Nazis: ...
24. Not a single terrified mask-nazi wears goggles in any situation or environment, despite Dr. Fauci's clear recommendation that they do so. It is a the small, easy step. A minor inconvenience to wear goggles that protect yourself and by ...
25. In an era when black people can be called white supremacists or devout Jews Nazis without the accusers blinking an eye I can't agree with your last paragraph. I do agree that these people are a disproportionately loud minority, yet most ...
26. records for the BLM grifters and Maxine Waters, you'd be on here calling it racist and saying we live in Nazi Germany.
27. You said in another comment: That's a lot of use of the "Nazi" term. My experience with running into some of those guys is that they vary from civic nationalists, extreme nationalists, western chauvinists, all the way to explicit ...
28. In his last tweet, he said pro-vaccine outreach was like the Nazis after a post urging vaccination by Florida Agricultural Commissioner Nikki Fried, a Democrat. https://www.rawstory.com/anti-va ...
29. The Nazi pride in their Aryan blood is one of the reasons people immediately tie white pride to supremacy. It's in the definition. White pride is an expression primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, fascists, neo-Nazi ...
30. First they were all white supremacists and Nazis and now they're all super spreaders. Always dehumanizing this group of people based on completely made up narratives. Once the truth comes out, it's a year later and people have already ...
31. It's just fucking Nazi madness. I think it's coming from a good place for most people, but the dangerous precedent this is setting is escaping most of them. Maybe if the vaccine actually eradicated the virus, and or stopped transmission ...
32. Fisman suggested last night that it was a Nazi dog whistle because the tweet had exactly 14 words. These are the bright minds at work behind our policy decisions.
33. You know as well as I do that you'd be making the same thread calling it "authoritarian" and nazis if it was republicans demanding corporations hand over private data of their political opposition, but it's democrats yet again, so you're ...
34. If one can be anti Nazi or anti CCP or anti Colonialism, then there is nothing wrong in being anti Islam. Why should any religon get a pass , they are just man made ideologies. If an ideology preaches supermacism why should it get a pass ...
35. because of the pride in their British heritage... ( Australian ) l You're truly blind if you think the nazis weren't proud of their Aryan roots. How are you so blind to history? Being proud of one's sexuality is a new thing . So ...
36. What really is bad are the proliferating health nazis who are sprouting up like mushrooms — toadstools — everywhere. In some places — Australia, for example, they come bearing the police power of the state and are harassing and ...

Anyway. Stay classy, War Room.

We honestly care for each other and you know that.

 

[Renard]

Godwin's law isn't a law, it's just a random unsubstianted idea an author made up. You could basically substitute it for anything, for example "The odds of any single word appearing in a conversation becomes greater as the conversation length increases." Yeah duh the number of words increase. People also constantly bring up that law as a way to stifle discussion. The atrocities of the 20th century struck deep in the cultural imagination of Europeans, hence why it's often brought up and used as a comparison tool. But you could easily substitute it for something generic like "authoritarianism." Just because we haven't experienced authoritarianism in a while doesn't mean it isn't real and we shouldn't be on the lookout for it. What was the point of the 20th century happening if we learn nothing from it?

 

[TheGreatA]

Most people in general cannot hold a discussion. The War Room's history has probably had a greater amount of solid discussions than most places, so it's not just the forum that has this problem.

Generally speaking, most people are too "inhibited" to hold a conversation about anything beyond the weather. We're here to bore the rest of the world with our own delusions and bullshit ideas, and expect somebody to actually listen.

 

[AFewDollarsMore]

I do notice that the article comments on scientific and brainier sites tend not to devolve into name calling and shooting the messenger type stuff. So it's probably to do with edumucation levels as well.

 

[spiderguarda]

I don't think the GOP has run on racial division since the early 60s. Victim culture is literally all the left stands for today. I honestly can't think of one leftist policy that isn't about demonizing the majority.

You forgot President Reagan. Remember his fictional black welfare queen? Even Democratic President Clinton catered to the white silent majority base Nixon claimed he championed which was true.

Both sides are doing the same thing. Ridiculous to claim otherwise.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

you know there's some empty posters around here whose only activity is to call people nazi, racist, etc.
literally all they post.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I don't think anyone in the history of the War Room has ever changed their mind about anything.

I did change my mind once. I used to be an it's less filling guy but now I just think it tastes great.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Its mainly because the lefts arguments cannot be supported by facts, they run on pure emotion. The only way they can believe their own nonsense is to make monsters of others.

But not you right?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I don't think the GOP has run on racial division since the early 60s. Victim culture is literally all the left stands for today. I honestly can't think of one leftist policy that isn't about demonizing the majority.

The majority? Do you mean whites?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Most people in general cannot hold a discussion. The War Room's history has probably had a greater amount of solid discussions than most places, so it's not just the forum that has this problem.

Generally speaking, most people are too "inhibited" to hold a conversation about anything beyond the weather. We're here to bore the rest of the world with our own delusions and bullshit ideas, and expect somebody to actually listen.

This is also a political subforum and that's historically one of the most contentious topics along with religion. Good luck in trying to change someone's ideology.

 

[Deleted member 499399]

I don't think the GOP has run on racial division since the early 60s. Victim culture is literally all the left stands for today. I honestly can't think of one leftist policy that isn't about demonizing the majority.

I took Trumps suburban houswives tweets to be blatantly aimed at racial division and that was not long ago at all.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-suburban-housewife-sexist-racist/3348444001/
And if you disagree with me you are a literal nazi.


The left cares about the environment, education, wages taxes and equity, Bidens been trying to do infrastructure and just pulled the troops out of Afghanastan. The left is leading the charge in battling covid. None of that nessasarily demonizes anyone . But people get as bored talking about that stuff as watching it on the 6 o'clock news. That's why we get protests about white cops arresting an old black lady and fist fights at pta meetings as news and why we all think the other side is a bunch of extremists.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Stop teaching people about the Nazis and maybe they'll stop talking about 'em.

On second thought, it's probably too late.

 

[TUFNewb]

Okay I won't mention Nazis if y'all will shut the fuck up about communists and "Marxists". Deal?

I didn't think so.

 

[HOLA]

I don't think the GOP has run on racial division since the early 60s.

 

[Diogenes of Sinope]

TS acting like this isn't a sub forum of a karate website and instead it's the Mensa forums

Lol’d but Give him what I’ve seen in today’s climate, I doubt Mensa formums would be much more civilized. If anything it would be an echo chamber

 

[MRT]

edited to delete a long post...why bother.

TS is on point and I'm pretty much done here.

 

[ineverpost]

When your "group" has no standard to join you wind up with groups like this or street people you see in Oregon

 

[Seano]

I'm not responding to everyone individually as my answer to you all is the same- Liberals stand for literally nothing that isn't rooted in identity politics. Nothing. I honestly don't get what it even mean to be a democrat today, other than calling everyone nazis, racists or some other form of bigot.

 

[LMP]

In America the political spectrum is strongly right leaning. While people claim that the democrats are left leaning commies. The truth is they are much more conservative than that, closer to what the world woukd view as center. This is why they are so scared to put any thing that can be viewed as socialists policy in to law.

There are scientific studies that show that the more are word is used, it begans to lose its meaning. There are many nationalist in America, and many people that are closet racist. One way the nationalist right have eroded the meaning of racist and Nazi is by trying to associate the Nazis with socialists. Even though we are all aware that the Nazi party was a hard authoritarian fascist party. They have also gone the route of claiming that the modern democrats are the real racist.

We can look at the outrage from the right about how confederate statues from the Jim Crow era, that were literally put up by racist groups, are now being taken down. They claim that these statues represent histoury and that the left is just trying to delete history. The facts are these statues were put up as insults to glorify a war to keep black slaves. The Daughters of the Confederacy an KKK are responsible for many of these statues, an yet we have people efending them.

It is not really a surprise that many fans of MMA support white Christian nationalist. Their support for things such as religious freedom stop at Christianity. The evangelicals in this country lean hard on wild conspiracy theories about how globalist are trying to replace their religion and white people. We often see how they glorify the pre-civil rights era in America as a better time.

In summary if you support politicians that are white Christian nationalist authoritarians, dont be surprised when you get called a Nazi.

 

[LMP]

I'm not responding to everyone individually as my answer to you all is the same- Liberals stand for literally nothing that isn't rooted in identity politics. Nothing. I honestly don't get what it even mean to be a democrat today, other than calling everyone nazis, racists or some other form of bigot.

The republican party is the OG when it comes to identity politics.