My anti capitalism friend just started a business

[El Panteron]

Wages.
How are you not getting this.

If me and you make 100 dollars Bernie will take 70$ of it and use it for healthcare, schools, people that don't want to work, ECT......

You won't own anything like land, vehicles, houses, it will be owned and provided by the state and you will still be taxed on that too. Got to pay for that free college.

And who told you that?

Sounds like you don't and are in denile about it.

If you're willing to listen I can explain, it's really not complicated.

 

[Danger Dave]

i am a capitalist.

 

[I am your real dad]

And who told you that?



If you're willing to listen I can explain, it's really not complicated.

.

 

[El Panteron]

.

So let me get this straight.
- Bernie says shit.
- You crack them numbers in that cute little brain
- You pull a 70% flat tax out of your ass
- Add invented state owned everything because why the fuck not
- Somehow all of this is true

Oki

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Wages.
How are you not getting this.

If me and you make 100 dollars Bernie will take 70$ of it and use it for healthcare, schools, people that don't want to work, ECT......

You won't own anything like land, vehicles, houses, it will be owned and provided by the state and you will still be taxed on that too. Got to pay for that free college.

Does Bernie Sanders really propose that?

 

[Drain Bamage]

So let me get this straight.
- Bernie says shit.
- You crack them numbers in that cute little brain
- You pull a 70% flat tax out of your ass
- Add invented state owned everything because why the fuck not
- Somehow all of this is true

Oki

He gets his news from Daily Caller

 

[I am your real dad]

So let me get this straight.
- Bernie says shit.
- You crack them numbers in that cute little brain
- You pull a 70% flat tax out of your ass
- Add invented state owned everything because why the fuck not
- Somehow all of this is true

Oki

That was just a few videos.

How did you know my brain was cute?

And under socialism the state does own everything.

 

[I am your real dad]

Does Bernie Sanders really propose that?

The 70% tax he does. To help pay for state run insurance.

Right now its around 30% that a typical worker pays. And poor people pay about 3%

 

[El Panteron]

He gets his news from Daily Caller

What would that be? Seemed like bad propaganda but I'm not willing to get too much into that.

That was just a few videos.

How did you know my brain was cute?

And under socialism the state does own everything.

So I'm gonna assume you backtracked on the insane tax numbers? Good

You still don't get it, the state can own everything in both left wing or right wing government, it's WHAT the government does with money and assets that tells you if they're nazi or socialist or capitalist or whatever.

And no, socialism doesn't mean the state owns everything, it means workers have possession of the means of production, nothing more nothing less.
The most classic socialist theory has the state as weak as possible.

 

[El Panteron]

The 70% tax he does. To help pay for state run insurance.

Right now its around 30% that a typical worker pays. And poor people pay about 3%

70% is the highest threshold, it's not strange and other states already have taxes this high on the highest income.
None of these states is socialist of course.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

The 70% tax he does. To help pay for state run insurance.

Right now its around 30% that a typical worker pays. And poor people pay about 3%

And what about the part where state owns everything?

That means state would expropiate Starbucks, McDonalds, factories, etc.?

 

[Drain Bamage]

What would that be? Seemed like bad propaganda but I'm not willing to get too much into that.

It's Tucker Carlson's website

 

[deviake]

My anti capitalism friend, who posts almost daily about how capitalism is ruining the world, just started a vegan cooking business and I really want to roast him on the Facebook post he made. I don't think he'd take it well so trying to refrain but damn I just really wanna be like "thought you didnt like capitalism? welp welcome to the ranks brother" ...

How does he run the business?

 

[moreorless87]

So let me get this straight.
- Bernie says shit.
- You crack them numbers in that cute little brain
- You pull a 70% flat tax out of your ass
- Add invented state owned everything because why the fuck not
- Somehow all of this is true

Oki

America, nation of temporary embarrassed millionaires.

 

[Reyesnuthugr]

America, nation of temporary embarrassed millionaires.

True, because your average person (even working class) tends to eventually make over a million dollars or more

 

[I am your real dad]

And what about the part where state owns everything?

That means state would expropiate Starbucks, McDonalds, factories, etc.?

In socialism the state owns everything.

 

[I am your real dad]

70% is the highest threshold, it's not strange and other states already have taxes this high on the highest income.
None of these states is socialist of course.

Workers do not pay 70% of their income in taxes as of right now. They pay around 30%, less if they are married and/or have children.

 

[El Panteron]

Workers do not pay 70% of their income in taxes as of right now. They pay around 30%, less if they are married and/or have children.

There are other states in the world outside of the US, you do know that right?
And they work just fine

In socialism the state owns everything.

No again. The state owns everything in an authoritarian state, you can have the state owning everything in a socialist state and in a capitalist state and in whatever political doctrine.

You seriously need to look up socialism on a dictionary.

 

[I am your real dad]

There are other states in the world outside of the US, you do know that right?
And they work just fine



No again. The state owns everything in an authoritarian state, you can have the state owning everything in a socialist state and in a capitalist state and in whatever political doctrine.

You seriously need to look up socialism on a dictionary.

You mean like Venezuela, Cuba, or the former Soviet Union?

No. In socialism you don't own anything. There are no possessions. Its called socialism for a reason. Everyone (really the state) owns and shares (if the state allows it) everything.

If you want to put shingles on your house (the communitys house that you are ALLOWED to live in) because your roof leaks you have to write your local politician to see if you are ALLOWED to put shingles on. You will most likely be told to enjoy your free healthcare and your leaky roof.

 

[Yotsuya]

Hate the game and not the player. I’m ok with Ayn Rand using public healthcare and I’m ok with commies with businesses. I know an actual comminist book store owner. He says he’d love to have his store taken over by the goverment if commies ruled. Funny enough, he does lobby for tax reductions for second hand book stores. Not so sexy paying taxes for social democrats I suppose.