No Limit Hold 'Em Poker Discussion

[Ken Fresno]

I haven't re-looked into it deeply and might be recollecting wrong.

On 2, I think that theory came about under the same rumour (that was alledgedly started by Elon Musk) on how Hans Niemann is alledged to have cheated against Magnus Carlsen.

The leading, and really only, theory for team "cheated" is that she had a vibrating device on her hip.

They think she would wear this on the hip directly exposed to that camera.
They think she would put it on the outside of her hip vs a hidden location.
They think she would wear skin tight pants over it.
They think she would wear a crop top exposing it.
They think it would vibrate hard enough to move her whole chair.
They think nobody else would notice it.
They think she would offer to be searched while wearing it.
They think she would stay and play for hours while wearing it after being accused of cheating.
They think the federal government is run by lizards disguised as humans.

 

[Takes_Two_To_Tango]

Here's live high stakes poker game going on right now

 

[SaiWa]

the theory is this Bryan was the insider who helped Robbi…

 

[LEWIS540]

the theory is this Bryan was the insider who helped Robbi…

The evolving story is so bizarre. Seems in the last few days the consensus has gone from "probably just a donk" to "yeah, good chance she cheated" to "the whole live stream poker format needs to be seriously questioned".

 

[gspieler]

Whether she was cheating or not, the chick giving the money back is perplexing. If you’re cheating, giving the money to your accuser makes little sense (I suppose if you’re worried about facing criminal charges, it does). If you’re playing legit, giving the money back makes zero sense.

 

[gspieler]

Man, that would’ve been just too sweet if she pulled that on Hellmuth. It would’ve the meltdown to end all meltdowns.

 

[King Joffery]

Was playing in the casino tonight.

Guy next to me wasn't covering his cards and I warned him 3 times I had seen his cards.

5 minutes later he flashed his cards again....7d8d. I got dealt Q7 off.

Flop Q77. I bet, he called. Turn a 4. I bet, he called.

Pot is now about 120. We both have 500+ left.

River 8. I check. He bets 45. I push all in, he calls.




I like to play fair, but did not feel bad one bit.

To be fair that hand played itself and all the money was going in regardless of whether you knew his hand.

Unless you only called preflop because you knew what he had but after flop there was no way all the money wasn't going in.

 

[LEWIS540]

To be fair that hand played itself and all the money was going in regardless of whether you knew his hand.

Unless you only called preflop because you knew what he had but after flop there was no way all the money wasn't going in.

Ha. Long time ago. Doubt I commit without a FH, tbh. Who knows.

Try to play fair, but there is limits. I know I’ve been ripped off before, but try to raise above it.


Truth be told, if you could cheat and get away with it, I think 99% would do it.

 

[Fugazy]

Ha. Long time ago. Doubt I commit without a FH, tbh. Who knows.

Try to play fair, but there is limits. I know I’ve been ripped off before, but try to raise above it.


Truth be told, if you could cheat and get away with it, I think 99% would do it.

Sadly most people would.

And to be honest, I’m not in love with this top down push against cheating, with Negreanu leading the way. Seems a bit loaded.

I get it in online games, and streams, but it feels a bit like a crusade right now.

 

[Foppa21]

the theory is this Bryan was the insider who helped Robbi…

I can't watch the video here, but did it cover some staff member taking $15k off Robbi's stack while she was discussing the hand? And she didn't want to press charges?

 

[LEWIS540]

Played 1/2 last night. Deep stacked. 800 effective.

AsKs utg. Limped. 3 callers, then BB raised to 15. I made it 50. Folded to BB who called.

Flop: 4s 4c 6s. Villain checked. I bet 60. He called.

Turn: 4h. Villain checked. I bet 105. He called.

River: 8h. Villain checked. I bet 160. He tanked for 2 minutes then called. Showed 8c 10d.




Made a (some what) hero called against same guy few hands later with 88 on J 7 2 J board for 300 all-in. River 10. He showed 89.



(Was third time I correctly called off on the turn, with a marginal hand correctly, only to get rivered).



Earlier the guy who took all my cash later pushed all in (350) into a 160 pot on 6d 9c 2h Qd when I had 7d 8d, so was forced to fold.



One of those nights I thought I played decent and still lost 800bb.

Actually won 2-3 big pots with pretty questionable plays too, truth be told.

 

[Domitian]

Played 1/2 last night. Deep stacked. 800 effective.

AsKs utg. Limped. 3 callers, then BB raised to 15. I made it 50. Folded to BB who called.

Flop: 4s 4c 6s. Villain checked. I bet 60. He called.

Turn: 4h. Villain checked. I bet 105. He called.

River: 8h. Villain checked. I bet 160. He tanked for 2 minutes then called. Showed 8c 10d.




Made a (some what) hero called against same guy few hands later with 88 on J 7 2 J board for 300 all-in. River 10. He showed 89.



(Was third time I correctly called off on the turn, with a marginal hand correctly, only to get rivered).



Earlier the guy who took all my cash later pushed all in (350) into a 160 pot on 6d 9c 2h Qd when I had 7d 8d, so was forced to fold.



One of those nights I thought I played decent and still lost 800bb.

Actually won 2-3 big pots with pretty questionable plays too, truth be told.

Holy shit at that hand, was villain on LSD? I need to fly in. Really that shit sucks but if you have players like that around you go keep playing.

 

[LEWIS540]

Holy shit at that hand, was villain on LSD? I need to fly in. Really that shit sucks but if you have players like that around you go keep playing.

Yeah, it's a soft game at the best of time, but this one guy last night was particularly poor (and directly to my right)......and still ended up taking me for a grand! Such is the game.

Actually asked him about the hand I listed, and he claimed his plan was to call river and turn, then bluff shove the river as he put me on A K the entire way.
I was like, "sure you were........"

Nice enough guy, to be fair to him.

 

[Domitian]

Yeah, it's a soft game at the best of time, but this one guy last night was particularly poor (and directly to my right)......and still ended up taking me for a grand! Such is the game.

Actually asked him about the hand I listed, and he claimed his plan was to call river and turn, then bluff shove the river as he put me on A K the entire way.
I was like, "sure you were........"

Nice enough guy, to be fair to him.

First thing I'm looking at is villain could have just simply checked his BB, but he opens 7.5x. Ok so then he calls the $50 while being out of position with a crap hand he shouldn't have got cute with in the first place. Particularly poor is correct.

 

[LEWIS540]

First thing I'm looking at is villain could have just simply checked his BB, but he opens 7.5x. Ok so then he calls the $50 while being out of position with a crap hand he shouldn't have got cute with in the first place. Particularly poor is correct.

In hindsight I was probably dumb to bet the river, truth be told. Was thinking I was representing QQ+ (which I think is reasonable as played), and he'd fold basically any pair below.....but yeah, he was never gonna fold 99, 10 10 or JJ, obviously. Doubt he would have if I'd gone bigger, neither.

 

[SaiWa]

Played 1/2 last night. Deep stacked. 800 effective.

AsKs utg. Limped. 3 callers, then BB raised to 15. I made it 50. Folded to BB who called.

Flop: 4s 4c 6s. Villain checked. I bet 60. He called.

Turn: 4h. Villain checked. I bet 105. He called.

River: 8h. Villain checked. I bet 160. He tanked for 2 minutes then called. Showed 8c 10d.




Made a (some what) hero called against same guy few hands later with 88 on J 7 2 J board for 300 all-in. River 10. He showed 89.



(Was third time I correctly called off on the turn, with a marginal hand correctly, only to get rivered).



Earlier the guy who took all my cash later pushed all in (350) into a 160 pot on 6d 9c 2h Qd when I had 7d 8d, so was forced to fold.



One of those nights I thought I played decent and still lost 800bb.

Actually won 2-3 big pots with pretty questionable plays too, truth be told.

I've seen this one a bunch of times. I've been the idiot calling it down the whole way or the loser in disbelief. The only difference is that sometimes if i am the fool calling then there's an opportunity to bluff on the river which i do depending on how strongly i feel about my opponent.

 

[LEWIS540]

I've seen this one a bunch of times. I've been the idiot calling it down the whole way or the loser in disbelief. The only difference is that sometimes if i am the fool calling then there's an opportunity to bluff on the river which i do depending on how strongly i feel about my opponent.

Yeah, we’ve all done things that make no sense. Normally costs us a few blinds, but occasionally we get lucky too!

Same night I got 5 bet all in pre for 120 BB, blind vs blind. Had Ks Qs. Knew I should fold, but for some reason (tilted!) called.

Guy had 99.

He turned a set.

I rivered a straight.

He played it bad, I played it worse!

 

[LEWIS540]

1/2 holdem. 4 straddle. 500 effective.

I have JJ first to act. I make it 15. HJ, Button and straddler call.

Flop: 2 2 8 rainbow. I continue for 25. HJ and button call. Straddle folds.

Turn: Q. Checks around.

River: J. I checked dark. HJ bets 50. Button raises to 200.

What do you do?

 

[Michaelangelo]

1/2 holdem. 4 straddle. 500 effective.

I have JJ first to act. I make it 15. HJ, Button and straddler call.

Flop: 2 2 8 rainbow. I continue for 25. HJ and button call. Straddle folds.

Turn: Q. Checks around.

River: J. I checked dark. HJ bets 50. Button raises to 200.

What do you do?

I’m guessing the other guy had quads? Lol

 

[LEWIS540]

I’m guessing the other guy had quads? Lol

Yup.

I re-raised for an extra 190ish, but in hindsight think it's just a call. Only real value hands I can beat were A2 and 88. Thought QQ was highly unlikely as played.

Can never fold, I don't think.

Was left with 60 after that hand and ran that back up to close to a grand (ironically flopping sets with 22 twice against the quads guy), so not bad.