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International Pentagon UFO Report

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  1. spacegnome Red Belt

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    we are discussing your claim that nobody who can think would believe that there are bigfoot in the states.

    i have proven that claim to be wrong.

    you have responded with slander and arrogance.
     
  2. Amerikuracana Plutonium Belt

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    Ok man. If there really were a giant primate living amongst us that would bring immense fame and fortune to whoever discovered it, I guess it would be any day now. We can find anything pretty easy, really. So please, when this giant human like primate living here is found, please call me in to rub it in my nose. I hope it happens. It won’t, but I hope it does.
     
  3. Amerikuracana Plutonium Belt

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    I don’t mean to slander or sound arrogant. I do have difficulty discussing a very few limited topics as if there is an actual debate to be had, but it’s very rare.

    Are you a flat earth supporter?
     
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    i have no issue with your doubt about big-foots existence friend. its the certainty that i find unwarranted but not annoying-- but more to the point the claims that people who are open are unable to think are patently false and unwarranted and when this includes mocking absurd even..... i also think they deeply pollute threads like this when your basic stance would not at all.
     
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  5. helltoupee Red Belt

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    Maybe you are confusing me with someone else, maybe not. I'm certainly not an atheist, but I'm also not a theist in the traditional sense of the word.

    I don't believe there is a universal creator however I do believe that we are all co-creators of the world around us. Matter follows consciousness, not the other way around.

    You may have pegged me as an atheist because I do post in religious based topics because I find things like the bible fascinating, although I don't necessarily subscribe to the way that most interpret the Bible.

    I think what you mentioned about Bigfoot is exactly what I was clumsily trying to say.
     
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    i still think i might be mistaking you for another poster. i teach monastic contemplative Christianity to lay people professionally btw. do you happen to practice the religious teachings of your tribe? i have a deep respect for many native pathways, have taken part in a number of lakota sweat-lodges and have known quite a few people walking that path over the years.

    yeah man the Jungian take is my preferred explanation for all paranormal activity really. i am not saying it explains everything perfectly or that i am certain about it and there are holes in this view that are problematic but with places like skinwalker ranch where so much paranormal activity has been reported for generations it suggests some kind of connection between bigfoot, the black dog, ufo's, poltergeists etc.

    there is also new light shed within both the bigfoot community and the ufo community revealing that many organizations intentionally leave out information that is often shared by witnesses where both of these things are sighted at the same time or near one another or within a few days of one another. this has been done because both groups are trying to gain credibility and, well, you can see how it sounds to bring them together.... lol. but they are often seen in proximity to one another.

    many people go in thinking one thing and come out thinking its all got to be connected somehow.

    btw-- i know two people who saw a bigfoot and i was with one when she did but ahead of her on the trail. she was spooked man. i also had a couple of VERY strange experiences that i cannot explain in the woods but no sighting.


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  7. CaptHANDSUP Green Belt

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    I think only the f22 looks cooler and perhaps the best looking airplane ever imo.

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    The Su-57 looks very similar.

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    The warthog and f14 tomcat are so retro.

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    B2 looks truly alien and the one plane that made me skeptical that UFO's are alien.

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    But now with things like flying tic-tacs that go underwater, i cant see how humans are capable of that.
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    Mum can we get an f22 raptor?
    We have an f22 raptor at home.
    F22 raptor at home:
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  8. SteveColdStone School of Self Awareness

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    There’s been a lot of talk lately about UFOs. During the same time period, we’ve seen billionaires get shot up to space in giant dildos.
     
  9. spacegnome Red Belt

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    Wrong!! That was a dildo going to space in a ship.... <45>
     
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    That b2 could be mistaken for a ufo easily under the right circumstances.
     
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    i still think i might be mistaking you for another poster. i teach monastic contemplative Christianity to lay people professionally btw. do you happen to practice the religious teachings of your tribe? i have a deep respect for many native pathways, have taken part in a number of lakota sweat-lodges and have known quite a few people walking that path over the years.

    yeah man the Jungian take is my preferred explanation for all paranormal activity really. i am not saying it explains everything perfectly or that i am certain about it and there are holes in this view that are problematic but with places like skinwalker ranch where so much paranormal activity has been reported for generations it suggests some kind of connection between bigfoot, the black dog, ufo's, poltergeists etc.

    there is also new light shed within both the bigfoot community and the ufo community revealing that many organizations intentionally leave out information that is often shared by witnesses where both of these things are sighted at the same time or near one another or within a few days of one another. this has been done because both groups are trying to gain credibility and, well, you can see how it sounds to bring them together.... lol. but they are often seen in proximity to one another.

    many people go in thinking one thing and come out thinking its all got to be connected somehow.

    btw-- i know two people who saw a bigfoot and i was with one when she did but ahead of her on the trail. she was spooked man. i also had a couple of VERY strange experiences that i cannot explain in the woods but no sighting.


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  12. second sight We have officially entered the "Age of Deception"

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    UFO’s are likely just billionaires from other planets
     
  13. spacegnome Red Belt

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    made me laugh man.
     
  14. mozfonky We oughta be fightin' a bottle of Geritol.

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    ok but what if it's being suppressed? I've heard stories of death threats from govt. agents but i don't understand the motive.
     
  15. spacegnome Red Belt

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    There are a ton of reports stating that evidence for bigfoot has been repressed people have been threatened this is a very common experience if we are to believe the many many stories and accounts from witnesses.

    But I have never heard a motive for repression that sounds plausible. The best argument given for a motive is logging that if we discovered a human like or primate species living in our forests logging which is a lucrative industry would take a big hit.

    But I am from the school of thought that sees all of the various crypted and paranormal and UFO activity as being connected and related . And it seems clear that the government has been very interested in keeping all of that kind of thing under wraps and debunked and on the fringes.
     
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  16. helltoupee Red Belt

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    Hey man,

    I can be critical of the Bible, so that might be why you had always thought of me as an atheist, although I don't necessarily have a problem with what the Bible is trying to teach.

    I don't generally follow the Native path, having done so much reading over the years I think I have been molded into an amalgamation of various teachings, etc. Emerson would probably be the closest example I could give of what is representative of my outlook on life, as he is my all-time favorite thinker.

    I read the book about Skinwalker Ranch when I was incarcerated, many years ago. I even had some light correspondence with George Knapp, one of the authors. If you remember, in the book a big deal is made out of the fact that if you dig, you run into problems. So I wrote George and asked him why nobody ever tried digging on the property. He answered and said that they had tried, but various complications prevented them from continuing.

    I used to be really fascinated by the whole idea of "high strangeness". If you haven't heard, there is another (now defunct) ranch in Sedona called the Bradshaw Ranch, which I believe was taken over by the government. Also Stardust ranch in Arizona that was actually for sale a few years ago. The current owner claims that all kinds of strange things happened there, just like Skinwalker. And he challenges anyone who calls him crazy to stay the night there.

    One thing that you may be able to appreciate is studying this kind of thing is truly a rabbit hole. If you've never read John Keel's Mothman Prophecies, I highly recommend it. It's basically a narrative about his own investigation into UFO reports in West Virginia, where he stumbles upon all these people claiming to see what we know of as "mothman". The interesting thing is that Keel recognizes that the phenomena has seemingly started to turn it's sights on him, and he wonders if he is slowly losing his mind. For example, he arrives in town and checks in to a hotel, only for the guy working the lobby to claim that he was just there the night before and had already checked out this morning. Just a lot of weird stuff like that and Keel relays the story in an honest and down to earth way.

    Currently, though, I've been watching the "Missing 411" series on Hulu and Netflix. If you haven't seen, these documentaries are simply about the unusually large number of people who just go missing while they are hiking. That itself wouldn't be strange until you find out that these people's bodies are then discovered in previously searched areas years later. The series doesn't offer any explanation for what this could be, it only presents cases where this has happened along with the people it happened to. And I really like how the show does not lead you to draw any conclusions whatsoever - it's entirely up to you as to how you interpret these well documented case reports.

    Take care bro
     
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    I have not read up on the mothman but did watch the movie lol. i dont think that counts.

    Ive read a lot about skinwalker and missing 411. Pretty intense stuff. Interesting that they all say the same things about getting noticed by whatever this is and being influenced, harassed etc.

    This even happened to me as I got deeply into the subject of bigfoot and ufos. I got noticed. I have learned to keep my interest academic only as anything more than that even the slightest desire to see or experience this phenomenon brings that energy and influence into my life in a negative way.

    This dimension that we are discussing about being noticed by the phenomenon is a big part of why I am interested in this subject. These topics are becoming mainstream and lots and lots of people are inviting this kind of activity into their lives. Some of what people are doing is absolutely dangerous and nobody seems to know or care.

    My interest is in observing the effects this will have on culture and society.
     
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    That's a really interesting take. Perhaps the effects this phenomena has on people is not necessarily all bad, but also has an aspect of it that is something positive?

    The book by John Keel is not necessarily a book about "mothman" per se. As I stated, it's more of a personal narrative of someone who was simply going to investigate a rash of UFO sightings in a small town. I'm sure you would enjoy it, as Keel is not one to exaggerate or leap to fantastic conclusions and he offers a lot of insight into how he perceives what starts happening to him, as you said "get's noticed". I remember he makes a statement, very similar to what you said above, that once this phenomena 'notices you', it's as if your entire view of reality and our physical world is turned on it's head. Impossible things start to happen and the more you attempt to find the answer to those things, the more those answers will evade you.

    It reminds me of a book I read by A Crowley. I'm certainly not a fan of him, as it is my opinion that he was simply a functioning drug addict, however he does make a comment in one of his books where he states that if you attempt to logically reconcile certain types of phenomena, the more it will puzzle and evade you. Given you are a Christian, Crowley is probably not your cup of tea - likewise for myself. Although I will state that people calling him a satan worshiper and all this stuff is way overblown and exaggerated.
     
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    I know the great majority of people here will probably ridicule us for having such a fantastical conversation, however, would you mind relating any experiences you had that you thought were strange? What led you to conclude that they were negative in nature?
     
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    hard to relate all of it in one post. the last 25 years of my life has been completely dedicated to spiritual practice. 3 to 5 hours a day of meditation and the fist 10 years was within the new age paradigm and included channeling, development of extra sensory abilities, crystals etc etc.

    fist the possible bigfoot experience.

    twice in one month around midnight after hiking to a pond with no roads going to it in the woods i had something throw a couple large boulders into the water while sitting by the pond. there was nobody around so the boulder had to come out of the trees which were 25 or 30 feet from the pond edge but the boulder landed further into the water. point is its too far for a human to throw that far.

    first time i yelled out i had a gun and left. second time i said the same thing and still left but something trailed us out off trail and behind us for a quarter of a mile. it was creaking branches loudly and it got closer and closer until it was right on us and i thought we were screwed. then it just ended.

    could be nothing but got me to thinking after i came across so many similar stories online a few years later.

    i witnessed a ufo from my car one night with a friend. it was classic disk shaped and had orange lights shining off of it. we felt an energy scan us and from that day on for about a year i had intense encounters at night (usually when i was not asleep) where electricity would shoot through my body and beings would try to contact me and speak to me but i would experience terror and was unable to allow the experience to complete.

    i thought the fear was my own weakness but over the course of the year i discerned that these beings had nefarious intent and were tying to harm me in some way. it felt like they were offering me some kind of abilities in exchange for some part of me-- like some part or portion of my soul.

    once i was clear about that i was able to stop the encounters and it has been many many years since that happened.

    a few years back after it donned on me that i may have experienced a bigfoot encounter in the woods i became very interested in trying to find them in the woods and was listening to missing 411 and howtohunt and things like that trying to get info.

    once during meditation i was trying to intuit where to look in the woods by my house and i felt a contact with them.

    but the second time i accidentally fell into meditation while thinking about them and had a pretty strong contact with them. the gist of it was that if i pursued this topic deeply it/they were more powerful than me and would take me to a place i don't want to go. there was a strong feeling of foreboding.

    here is a guy sharing a similar encounter with bigfoot-- this is well worth watching man. one of the best accounts ive seen.




    in general i think the paranormal realm has nefarious intent. sometimes it is overt but more often it is subtle as in the case of channeling spirit guides and such. i have witnessed countless lives destroyed by these kinds of practices over the years being so deeply immersed in the spiritual quest and knowing so many people. i have a lot of stories about harm done to people that i have known closely.

    we have thrown out religion (partially for good reasons) but with it we threw out basic and solid warnings and wisdom about what to do and not do. many people are openly practicing very dark spirituality and have no idea what they are bringing into their lives and it has consequences.

    presently the catholic church cannot keep up with the number or exorcisms they are having to perform and are training as many as possible. in every single case they say there is an open interest in the occult that has brought this into their lives. one priest lamented how people are now openly practicing harmful occult practices with no qualms about it at all.

    in my work i meet people regularly that are warped and damaged by spiritual practices that are harmful but that have been presented as innocent and good. the paranormal is part and parcel to all of that and people are rushing in headfirst having no idea what they are doing.

    just preliminary thoughts here in way too long of a post. im not dogmatic or closed minded friend.
     

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