Steven Seagals investigators exposes Judo fraud Gene Lebell

Swepingright said:
"Judo" Gene Lebell does not have any black belt from a Judo federation. They are all Japanese Ju Jutsu bullshit orgs.

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Seagal is about as legit as Fake President Joke Biden.

“My butt’s been wiped!”
 
You know, I always believed LeBell's story but now I am undecided. Because of this thread I looked it up and came across this:

http://www.manlymovie.net/2016/08/lebell-lied-about-choking-out-seagal.html

above link said:
"Stuntman Ron Balicki pretty much destroys the theory. Here is what he posted on Facebook a while back;

Are you talking about the bullshitter, Gene Lebell? The guy who says that he choked Steven out, which is a big, big lie. You mean the Gene who actually is a murderer who went to jail and got out of a technicality, that Gene? You should look that up. That’s a fact, not a fairytale like that bs Gene spins.

No story gains traction quite so quickly, in today’s media frenzy environment, than one that tears down a well respected celebrity. In this instance, there is a fairytale rendition of how the great Gene Lebell choked out Steven Seagal, with rather unpleasant effect. The story is patently false, but this bit of martial arts mythology now seems to have really taken root. Trashing the reputation of a martial artist and movie icon may be a sad part of the entertainment process, but when the story is not correct, and the consequences truly damaging, the situation must be set straight. I can speak to this myth personally as I am close to the people in these circles and was an eyewitness to the exchange that day between Gene and Steven. Know that this is not easy for me to do. My family and I know both Gene and Steven well, so to see this malicious urban legend live on through the years divides people we care about deeply.

There were numerous people present on the day when Gene Lebell met Steven Seagal and allegedly fought. In reality, no fight occurred and there was no contact between Gene and Steven on that movie set. Gene’s role was to work as a Utility Stuntman under the stunt coordinator, Conard Palmisano. Steven also had two bodyguards present who were LAPD officers. As his security specialists and professional law enforcement officials, they would both have been in serious trouble had they let their boss get choked out, and possibly killed, by a marginal stuntman. The stunt coordinator, Conrad Palmisono was there and witnessed any interactions that occurred between Gene and Steven. Conrad Pamisano was one of the most successful Stunt coordinators working in show business at the time. The legal exposure and professional consequences for Conrad would have been severe had he let a stuntman under his supervision aggressively even touch any star on a movie set. Quite simply, Conrad, as a professional with great responsibility, would never have allowed this situation to occur.

Another stuntman by the name of Steve Lambert was also an eyewitness to Gene’s and Steven’s brief interaction. He also stated that Gene never choked out Steven and that no altercation ever occurred. Again, this is not some street fight, or casual dojo situation. If such an altercation happened on a professional movie set the consequences for the producers, directors and the movie studio would be most severe. A stuntman (Lebell) simply cannot choke out and hurt the lead star of a movie in production on the set. The legal liability and damage to their professional reputations would be unthinkable. Quite simply the set would have been closed down. If the star lost consciousness a doctor’s signed release would be legally required for Steven to go back to work. No such record exists. The bonding company who insures the production for the movie would have sued Lebell for the loss of working days. The financial implications would amount to hundreds of thousands of dollars given the cost of shutting down production even for a couple of days. Again, keep in mind that we are talking about an alleged fight on a professional movie set. The consequences of such an altercation would be enormous. Casual altercations might happen in the gym, but not on the highly regulated and professionally managed stage of a movie production.

In truth, this story is nothing more than WWE type hype in which Gene Lebell is known to indulge going back to his early wrestling days. He is doing the same thing with Ronda Rousey today. Gene Lebell is now saying that she (Ronda) can beat up Bruce Lee; what could be more absurd? What could get more attention? This entirely fabricated story is simply a way of staying in the public eye and making a living at the expense of the reputation of another. There are radio shows like Joe Rogan and others who validate this ludicrous fiction in order to increase their ratings. Ronda Rousey, and some others, are also telling this story during interviews for their own self-promotion. In a recent interview Ronda stated that she knows the story to be true. That is ridiculous; she was 3 years old when this allegedly happened. It seems that this made up altercation is simply part of the sad story of American media and the cult of celebrity. We build up stars with respect and then enjoy a good story, true or not, that tears them down. Clearly that is the case here. This entirely fabricated story has legs because it creates good hype for side-show acts that need attention and boosts ratings for gossip radio talk shows. The facts are quite clear; Gene never choked out Steven. But as the old proverb says, “never let the truth get in the way of a good story”."
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Now I have no clue who to believe..... and I really liked that story too!
 
mudrubble said:
You know, I always believed LeBell's story but now I am undecided. Because of this thread I looked it up and came across this:

http://www.manlymovie.net/2016/08/lebell-lied-about-choking-out-seagal.html




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Now I have no clue who to believe..... and I really liked that story too!
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Choking someone and then them shitting their pants seems pretty fake if you think about it. Sorta like a doctor not believing someone slipped on a banana and got a dildo stuck in their butt lol
 
Hahaha Gene would absolutely kill Segal.
 
Bearknuckle said:
What you cant handle facts? Seagal would beat you up and you know it. Whether he would beat an mma fighter is a question because they train specifically for a set of rules that seagal doesn’t. The street is a whole nother story.
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Good schtick
 
Swarthy said:
That entire story sounds like a lawyer crafted it lol
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It does, but it also makes sense. I mean, there would be scheduling, and cost (and possibly legal) ramification if that happened to a lead actor on a movie set. I never even considered that angle. I can't imagine Segal would have awoken, got up, wiped his ass, showered, asked for his assistant to bring him new clothes, and gone on shooting scenes.

Unless Segal waved it off and refused to press charges, which he might do to protect his image.

So I have no clue what to believe. I'm just gonna stop believing, lol.

Plus, who is Ron Balicki and what does he have to lose publicly? Steven could have paid him or blackmailed or coerced him into posting this without it being true at all.

I will never believe anything in my life ever again. It's over. The whole belief thing is so 2020 right now.
 
Bearknuckle said:
Choking someone and then them shitting their pants seems pretty fake if you think about it. Sorta like a doctor not believing someone slipped on a banana and got a dildo stuck in their butt lol
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And with Gene's sense of humour I wonder if he didn't just start it off as a joke/challenge and figured let the tall tale live. I know sometimes ppl do shit themselves when they go out, but it's rare. I'm not a grappler so I have no experience to fall on on this.

I always took the story as full on truth. Now I have no clue.
 
Swepingright said:
Oh there you are! What were you saying again about JJJ?
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That it’s garbage?

I haven’t responded because I’ve been here for a long, long time and I know a troll when I see one. Don’t expect any further responses no matter how many times you may quote or mention me. Just don’t have the time to entertain guys like you anymore.

I recommend anyone else reading this to do the same.
 
RemyR said:
That it’s garbage?

I haven’t responded because I’ve been here for a long, long time and I know a troll when I see one. Don’t expect any further responses no matter how many times you may quote or mention me. Just don’t have the time to entertain guys like you anymore.

I recommend anyone else reading this to do the same.
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That's what Gene Lebell holds rank in. Now Sherdog knows. I don't give a fuck about your opinion of this thread
 
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