This has become a phobia @ TSF. You have TSF kung fu lovers who feel real kung fu martial arts is taking a punch in the face... "like a boss."For the record, complete Wing Chun is not designed for sports and contains many elements not compatible with a sporting context.
Agree on the commentary... again described in boxing lingo. Hard to tell the quality of the background... makes entertaining viewing.Another fight in MMA rules
Aside from the awful commentary, nice to see a bit more live WC.
Sparring and testing is what counts....
No question on the observable conclusion. It's how you arrived. The thesis falls apart when one considers the caliber of that populated by MMA competitors.i did jeet kune do for a year before getting into bjj/mmaiw as gung ho for it but theirs a reason you dont see it the number 1 wing chun guy of china got koed by a average amateur mma fighter who was only allowed to punch and knee him no grappling dude beat him with bombs and being tough the trapping and back fist stuff especially with gloves just does not work vs a good guy
i use to love hand trapping stuff but vs a tough guy who wants to really do you harm it just isnt gonna stop him even if you do a perfect pac sao to back fist and again adding gloves to the mix you could at times use some of the blocking techniques but offensively it just isnt gonna work
people seem to forget that ufc 1-20 happened when it was nhb and guys were trying to figure out what styles were good ad every martial art was used basically and theirs a reason we came to the conclusion of boxing/kick boxing/bjj/wresling being the holy 4
experience is everything youve trained not even a year i turned pro in 2012 at 20 the shit doesnt work on average just a fact which is why i love mma is show what really works vs trained people natural selection at its finestAgree on the commentary... again described in boxing lingo. Hard to tell the quality of the background... makes entertaining viewing.
No question on the observable conclusion. It's how you arrived. The thesis falls apart when one considers the caliber of that populated by MMA competitors.
And sure thing,,, it's real skills to down a significantly out sized opponent by natural physique. We see the same discussion of BJJ over Judo. The wiser know the score.
because people hate boxing for some reason mostly cause its hard been boxing since 2005 when was early teen most people dont stick to it tbh like other combat sports either guys train a year or 2 or they stick with it for the long haul and train to be a pro u hardly have just gym rats who just do it for the exercise in fighters gymsThis has become a phobia @ TSF. You have TSF kung fu lovers who feel real kung fu martial arts is taking a punch in the face... "like a boss."
A search to write content for sure... but the continuing message how Wing chun melts in MMA. Need the SBG-like special sauce. Well, you have the SBG 'functionally' trained striker, champion Conor McGregor, who got cold cocked by a wrestler ,,, one commented on by MMA as mediocre.
When will people drop the b.s. and agree basic boxing is the ticket... and how many MMA competitors can pass muster?
How could they be tested if they are forced to wear gloves, mouthpiece, a cup, and the banning of lethal techniques ?The more you pressure test kung fu styles, the more they ultimately turn into sanda. The over complicated demonstration moves don't work, and the logical principles of wing chun like hand trapping and attacking the centreline, when performed at their most efficient are the same techniques you see in boxing and Muay Thai.
The more you pressure test a style like kung fu and iron out the fluff and the flash, the more it loses it's visual identity as a martial art, and the more it starts to resemble what we know is tried, trie and works.
Hey,,, I said it doesn't work... look who's working IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!experience is everything youve trained not even a year i turned pro in 2012 at 20 the shit doesnt work on average just a fact which is why i love mma is show what really works vs trained people natural selection at its finest
The more you pressure test kung fu styles, the more they ultimately turn into sanda. The over complicated demonstration moves don't work, and the logical principles of wing chun like hand trapping and attacking the centreline, when performed at their most efficient are the same techniques you see in boxing and Muay Thai.
The more you pressure test a style like kung fu and iron out the fluff and the flash, the more it loses it's visual identity as a martial art, and the more it starts to resemble what we know is tried, trie and works.
How could they be tested if they are forced to wear gloves, mouthpiece, a cup, and the banning of lethal techniques ?
experience is everything youve trained not even a year i turned pro in 2012 at 20 the shit doesnt work on average just a fact which is why i love mma is show what really works vs trained people natural selection at its finest
The more you pressure test kung fu styles, the more they ultimately turn into sanda. The over complicated demonstration moves don't work, and the logical principles of wing chun like hand trapping and attacking the centreline, when performed at their most efficient are the same techniques you see in boxing and Muay Thai.
The more you pressure test a style like kung fu and iron out the fluff and the flash, the more it loses it's visual identity as a martial art, and the more it starts to resemble what we know is tried, trie and works.
the shit doesnt work on average just a fact which is why i love mma is show what really works vs trained people natural selection at its finest
The more you pressure test boxing and kickboxing at close range, the more its been proven to fail miserably and had to evolve to incorporate 'dirty boxing'/clinch fighting and modified MT.
So great, MMA rediscovered large parts of Wing Chun in a sport context and proved that the principles and methods work at that range.
I love how anyone could think MMA validated pure boxing. That shit has to be modified into basically a different style to have any chance to work. They even get pieced up in BK boxing.
Yes, WC in MMA will look more like fighting in MMA, just as every style adapts. Show me a pure textbook MT fighter in MMA.
If you want pure cultural form WC you get the neck chops and everything else, then the "too deadly" brigade comes out even tho that stuff works if u need it. You seesaw between these views.
If I fight MMA, yes WC will have overlap with dirty boxing and MT in close range and is as good as either to get you profficient there with some other differences.
WC no rules and fighting in general no rules is a moot point that no one here is qualified to form a valid opinion on and don't reference UFC 1-4 it proves very little other than yes strikers need takedown defence.
The more you pressure test boxing and kickboxing at close range, the more its been proven to fail miserably and had to evolve to incorporate 'dirty boxing'/clinch fighting and modified MT.
So great, MMA rediscovered large parts of Wing Chun in a sport context and proved that the principles and methods work at that range.
I love how anyone could think MMA validated pure boxing. That shit has to be modified into basically a different style to have any chance to work. They even get pieced up in BK boxing.
Yes, WC in MMA will look more like fighting in MMA, just as every style adapts. Show me a pure textbook MT fighter in MMA.
If you want pure cultural form WC you get the neck chops and everything else, then the "too deadly" brigade comes out even tho that stuff works if u need it. You seesaw between these views.
If I fight MMA, yes WC will have overlap with dirty boxing and MT in close range and is as good as either to get you profficient there with some other differences.
WC no rules and fighting in general no rules is a moot point that no one here is qualified to form a valid opinion on and don't reference UFC 1-4 it proves very little other than yes strikers need takedown defence.
Hey guys or guy... had this posted to my attention somewhere throughout the universe....
Why Martial Arts Are Suddenly Being Exposed as Fake
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•Apr 29, 2020
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yA'LL couldn't have a better spokesman.... see, I am a good sport!
Boxing and kickboxing have to evolve to adjust to other full contact sports with more allowed techniques.
Wing Chun has to evolve to adjust to any moveset to all other rulesets.
He's all the rage... has million + MMA views... is being posted by YT MMA proponents right & left. Popular MMA blog channels.dude was dressed like super weird hipster couldnt watch