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The Trenches, Ep. 36 Poll: Do the losses for Northcutt/Alvarez show the strength of other orgs?

Discussion in 'The Trenches' started by jei, May 21, 2019.

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Do the debut losses of Alvarez and Northcutt in One show the strength of talent outside the UFC?

  1. Yes, the UFC doesn't have all the best fighters

    44.7%
  2. No, those losses don't tell us anything

    15.9%
  3. A little Column A, a little Column B

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  1. Tomas Black Belt

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    Should more guys take the Robbie Lawler approach of "standing their ground" when the opponent they desire to fight pulls out? It's a high risk situation that pays off and sometimes doesn't pay off. Conor took the Mendes fight and became a star because he won. Frankie took the fight vs Ortega and took almost 1.5 years to get his TS because of the loss
     
  2. europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    M-1 has turned into a feeder-org for the UFC. Wow, what a poetic ending considering their storied relationship. Does anyone remember when Finkelstein wanted the UFC to build arenas in Russia as a condition for them to co-promote? Anyways, do you have any fallen smaller orgs that you personally favourited (ie: Not Pride!). Personally, I was introduced to MMA through the IFL, go New York Pitbulls!
     
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    Who is the next young hot prospect to take the internet by storm...
     
  4. Fishmonger All Your Base Are Belong to Us

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  5. erron Orange Belt

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    best "brawler" you see being champ ? like perry, lineker or gaethje ? people label them as brawlers and act like they arent champ worthy.

    i butchered lineker's name i think
     
  6. JayPettryMMA Danger Zone Aficionado Staff Member Sherdog.com Staff

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  7. Billthebutcher Butcher Belt

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    I haven't seen many fighters in top position, while in the guard, throwing elbows to the sternum, ribs, or chest. (Not a 12/6 elbow). Although they do throw elbows to the head, is this due to unified rules, or another reason?
     
  8. europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    ONE FC crazy-talk time!!!

    Chatri has decided to overule the Petrosyan vs Petchyindee decision to a No Contest. The reason being that the ref couldn't keep all the illegal clinching under control. Tournament-favorite Petrosyan will now get a rematch vs the Thai boxer and so have another chance at winning the 1 milion dollar Tournament. Even though Christian Lee's frequent and fight-changing rope-grabs result in no such infraction like this, at all!

    EDIT: In response, Petchyindee's gym has threatened to withdraw their fighter since with a precedence like this, they can never be sure that a win is really a "win".

    Should promotors even have the ability to do this?

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  9. JayPettryMMA Danger Zone Aficionado Staff Member Sherdog.com Staff

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    I can assure you this will come up in the show tonight, brace yourself for the rants.
     
  10. erron Orange Belt

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    ^ this is number one question
     
  11. GiSP Canada or USA. I’m an International Man of Misery Banned

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    Is there any word on in the UFC are trying to make Cyborg vs Fee for Edmonton?

    Thank you.
     
  12. JayPettryMMA Danger Zone Aficionado Staff Member Sherdog.com Staff

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  13. europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    I picked the Third option cuz steroids.

    Not that they aren't going on in the UFC, it's just that people have to be more sparse and careful with them.
     
  14. JayPettryMMA Danger Zone Aficionado Staff Member Sherdog.com Staff

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    I won't deny, this was a tough question to word, since there are a lot of potential answers that can come from it. When we discuss it on the show itself, I hope people chime in.
     
  15. europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    To add to that, UFC veterans have also been having a tough time in Bellator, PFL, ACA, etc. It goes far beyond just ONE.
     
  16. JayPettryMMA Danger Zone Aficionado Staff Member Sherdog.com Staff

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    Right, and Yushin Okami got smoked too in One. There are so many factors, it's hard to pin it down, which leads to a great discussion. I mean on paper, Sage vs. Cosmo was a stupid matchup, look at the experience and level of competition and size and style. It led to Sage's face getting ground into powder.
     
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    I am absolutely positive that this showcases the strength of other organizations.
    ONE is making moves, half a year ago it was impossible to watch ONE events live in Austria, now it works.

    I like it and the whole MMA community should like it. Hope ONE can gain some traction worldwide and shake up the sport.
     
  18. europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    I still remember when Cosmo got outstruck and outhustled in his Bellator debut vs Josh Quayhagen of all people (who was also making his MMA debut).

    How things change.
     
  19. TheSpider Black Belt

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    UFC Bellator and one all have great fighters
     
  20. Beans & Cornbread Purple Belt

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    It shows there are good fighters outside the UFC. Personally, I think ONE puts on better shows, but supposedly they arent making any money.
     
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