I don't have a strong opinion or knowledge of it. I never even said that I agreed with Russia invading Ukraine, just that there is a long historical context that can't simply be condensed into "Putin bad". Especially that many posters on Sherdog would have cared to actually educate themselves in. Notice that most people who are unbiased historians don't simply condense things into simple statements like one side is bad. They provide context that lets people view both side's reasonings and morals so that we can have a broader scope of the picture.
No concession was made. You just said "Putin bad lol" and then acted like it was some sort of victory?
They have military bases way east of Germany and closer to Russia today. US doesn't need to put bases in East Germany because they are putting them even closer to Russia. The person who said the statement said what he meant, he was not specific to East Germany but rather expanding towards Russia. It's like if Russia put missiles in Mexico and said "well, they aren't in Cuba" because an agreement was signed to take the missles out of Cuba during the missle crisis. And there are plenty of resources of Western officials stating that they signed this unification agreement under the understand that expansion would not happen towards the Soviet Union, for example:
www.ghi-dc.org
I don't have a strong opinion or knowledge of it. I never even said that I agreed with Russia invading Ukraine, just that there is a long historical context that can't simply be condensed into "Putin bad". Especially that many posters on Sherdog would have cared to educate themselves in.
No concession was made. You just said "Putin bad lol" and then acted like it was some sort of victory?
They have military bases way east of Germany and closer to Russia today. US doesn't need to put bases in East Germany because they are putting them even closer to Russia. The person who said the statement said what he meant, he was not specific to East Germany but rather expanding towards Russia. It's like if Russia put missiles in Mexico and said "well, they aren't in Cuba" because an agreement was signed to take the missles out of Cuba during the missle crisis. And there are plenty of resources of Western officials stating that they signed this unification agreement under the understand that expansion would not happen towards the Soviet Union, for example:
Bulletin 46 (Spring 2010) – GHI Washington
Why would you think that Russia cares about East Germany now that their borders are no where near East Germany? It's clear from both what Russia is saying and what the West has said for a long time that they wanted security by their Russia's border. And simple logic would also tell you that, but it seems you are so content on simplifying the situation down to "Putin bad" that you will use whatever illogical reasoning is required to justify it to yourself. And again, you aren't even trying to view it from Russia's point of view, because you are actually propagandized into simply thinking they are evil. And it's easy to see, propaganda has always been used to simplify and vilify groups of people, which you are so quick to do yourself.
Imagine arguing on behalf of a mafia state run by a megalomaniac that executes his opposition
There was no concession made there.
The US blows up civilians and children who aren't even opposed to them. I'd argue that's worse. Should no one be able to argue on behalf of America?
"Virtually identical"
I literally did address what you said. You said they didn't say they would expand into East Germany. The multiple resources I've posted said they weren't specific about East Germany, they were specific about the Soviet Union. Which would make sense to anyone who thought logically or just listened to the Secretary of State at the time who said it. Why would Russia care about East Germany today, when America is even closer to it's borders in Ukraine?
Please answer my question. Does America blowing up civilians and children preclude anyone from defending it as a country?
I never said it didn't push Ukraine to the West, it clearly has. But before that aggression was centuries of context that again, cannot be summed up by "Putin bad", especially since Putin wasn't alive during those times. And again, I haven't said that I agree with Russia's invasion. But there are two sides to every story and America's expansionist policy towards Russia's borders (which was promised not to happen) has contributed greatly to Russia's feelings of hostility.
