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UFC 236 Holloway vs Poirier 2

Discussion in 'MMA Betting Discussion' started by Jordan3399, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. 2bet Green Belt

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    I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
    Where are you from?
     
  2. Pete O White Belt

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    What don’t you understand and I’m form Boston, you say my post is bad and I’m missing something. Eh don’t you explain
     
  3. Pete O White Belt

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    You jump in and throw shade but don’t read the conversation before it?
     
  4. 2bet Green Belt

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    your postings seem so random to me it's like you are throwing the dice to decide what you are writing next.
    It just makes no sense.
     
  5. Jordan3399 Brown Belt

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    You write like you took a lot of big shots in those 10 years tbh.
     
  6. Pete O White Belt

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    ok I’ll keep my opinions to my self and you guys can have your little forum
     
  7. Sham5916910 Silver Belt

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    Cant be arsed rechecking his last two fights to confirm that, but Alves and Griffin took him down without having to shoot reactively. I don't recall him defending any takedowns barely in the UFC. Even an exhausted Siyar took him down right at the end of r3. Griffin, Siyar and Alves offer very little threat on the mat. I know Belal lacks finishes but every fight he is taking people down and taking their backs. Millender has shown no ability to defend when someone has his back and unless he gets a quick KO it's highly likely Belal is on his back at some point early and Millender goes into panic mode.
     
  8. Stunna77 Brown Belt

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    Siyar and Griffin are strikers whom rarely wrestle. No need to go down a rabbit hole.

    Belal mixed up his striking with takedowns very nicely against similarily framed opponents in Means and Brown. I bet Neal against Belal as his athleticism, speed and boxing is very very good. He showed a great sprawl from what I remember and hurt Belal badly with his hands. We have plenty of proof that Millender has nowhere near his tdd, hand speed, or footwork.

    Not really sure how to debate your last point regarding Siyar being gassed, it was fairly noticeable to me. Anyone else can feel free to chime in if I am off base, not going to rewatch it again. (EDIT) I see Sham posted above saying Siyar was indeed exhausted.
     
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  9. Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

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    I think a lot of people are overreacting to Millender's last loss. I remembered I was one of the few on Zaleski against him. I had to make sure I wasn't going crazy and checked the thread on that event. Did so many people have a high opinion of him that just dropped after that quick of a fight? Zaleski is far more dangerous and a finisher than Belal. I think the biggest factor here is that you have a decision fighter facing a guy who typically does not lose decisions. Millender is hard to get comfortable against, especially with a guy like Belal who is very hittable. Shooting from a mile out against Millender is dangerous as well.

    I also think we need to put into perspective what lines people are betting. I have Millender at +130. I can't really knock people playing the other side at the same price. It's a close fight.
     
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  11. Pete O White Belt

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    I can guarantee that I have you big internet tough guy
     
  12. 2bet Green Belt

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    @barrygood1 you should not have openly criticised your beloved president so much on this forum.
    It might just be karma getting back at you.
    Make a few genuine Trump-friendly posts and you can rise from the ashes like a phoenix and live up to your potential again

     
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    I have never been high on Millender. Only bet him against Siyar since I assumed he wouldn't look to wrestle and Millender would pick his wide "boxing" apart. I bet Alves, Griffin and Zaleski against him and have been waiting to fade him against a decent wrestler. I didn't get + odds since opening limits on dimes are ridiculous, but maxed him at -125 on DSI and -135 on BOL, for roughly a 3.33u stake.
     
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    Anyone confident in any picks? Honestly having trouble finding value in this card. Took a decent amount on poirier just cause he has a punchers chance in a likely 3-5 round fight with max. He could clip him, but even then I think Max's distance control is good enough to save him in most scenarios. Hoping Dustin's confidence is validated by some specific Max tendencies that he thinks can be exploited.
     
  15. LEMONZEST Planning parlays...

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    Sure. If they keep fighting eventually they will lose. Everyone gets old. Everyone has an off night sometime. Everyone fights with injuries they are nursing at times. Anybody can get clipped with a lucky shot are caught in a sub. It is just the fight game.

    Rousey was supposed to be a world beater and retire undefeated until she got stopped.

    GSP was supposed to ride off into the sunset until Serra clipped him.

    I love Jones and think he is a great fighter. However, I think someone of similar skill that fought him with pressure could really give him trouble. We saw him in some trouble vs. Machida when Machida rushed him. I just think in the moment people forget how many hype trains get derailed.
    DJ was very close to getting subbed by Elliot.
    I am not taking anything away from all these GOATs but if you keep fighting you will get caught somewhere. The margin of error is so small and the gap in skill is very small between a GOAT and a really good fighter.
     
  16. LEMONZEST Planning parlays...

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    Word. He is so clueless on the ground. You can't build a BJJ game in 1 month.
     
  17. Austisthunder Banned Banned

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    A Bostonite? Shouldve known as much, this reads as if it comes form a 60 iq potato slagger who likes to trade concussions with the boys for fun

    Look, your post was bad because Its nonsensical;
    Grant is like 35 and has shown little to no evolution in his fights, hes a low volume counter striker with power
    Hes not gonna show wild improvement and everyone here knows this except you apparently
     
  18. Pete O White Belt

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    Why don’t you go fuck yourself because you have prob never stepped foot into combat sports. You can disagree with my opinion but do not need to attack my intelligence or my City. This a forum talking about mma not a English literature class you fucking donkey.
     
  19. Naught2Sixty Red Belt

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    Anybody else like Reis as a dog...?

    <{vega}>
     
  20. Austisthunder Banned Banned

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    Well it was preferably a halfway intellectual mma forum until you came here and tried to show off the fact that you train at a planet fitness or whatever
     

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