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UFC 241 Cormier vs Miocic II

Discussion in 'MMA Betting Discussion' started by JimGunn, Jul 29, 2019.

  1. barrygood1 Blue Belt

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    Barry's "One Play a Day" for UFC 241: CORMIER VS. MIOCIC 2:
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  2. KTFOvids Orange Belt

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    DC is a better wrestler; no disagreement there. Also consider DC was out MMA wrestled by jones.

    IMO he doesn't out wrestle stipe as stipe is too big and strong and his MMA wrestling is decent enough. I could very well be wrong and DC mauls stipe to the ground, but I just can't see it.

    I like how you quoted me, took my statement and then deleted the part where I explained how it was similar.

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    There you go.
     
  3. Yotsuya Brown Belt

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    I have tiny stabs on that and on the over. Romero coming lighter than usual could mean he's packing less power but more speed and cardio to disrupt Costa's pressure with takedowns.
     
  4. johno White Belt

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    After reviewing costas fights I'm not seeing why people are ruling Romero out?
    Costa is only impressive when he can pressure his flawed competition. Bambose took him down and let's be honest bambose is terrible. Costa moves back in straight lines at times and that's a huge mistake to make against someone like Romero. Maybe cost a rolls Romero but I don't see it that way
     
  5. ApplesVild Banned Banned

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    We really don't know what we're getting from Yoel or Costa, both been out a decent amount of time, could see improvements from Costa could see a decline from Yoel... Could see the same Yoel and nothing new from Costa.

    Go with who you think is more sexy guys.
     
  6. XociDe Purple Belt

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    Haven't been on Sherdog for a while. Decided to check this thread out.

    Some interesting takes, but I think the last 3 fights on this card are horrible for betting.

    There are so many unknowns in each fight.

    DC/Stipe: Before the eye poke, it was pretty even. Stipe started better, took DC down briefly, controlled him against the cage, hit him with some good shots. DC came back and landed several hard shots that left visible damage. Stipe looked bigger and stronger, DC looked quicker and more crisp. However, DC is coming off pretty serious back surgery where he couldn't train for 5 months and gained a load of weight. He is also a year older at 40. We all know fighters can get old over night, which leads me to..

    Romero/Costa: Romero is 42, and no one beats father time. Could this be the fight? There isn't much to say other than they are both utter (enhanced) specimens. The Romero that fought Whittaker would beat the fook out of Costa, but we just don't know. Costa is so fast and powerful, if Romero has lost a step, it could be a rough one. But Costa is relatively young, a physical beast, and we haven't seen him for over a year. It's possible that he has made serious strides.

    Nate/Pettis: Again, so much time off for Nate. He's 34. Does he have the same chin and stamina? Pettis has been on a decline for a while and was losing badly to Wonderboy before the KO. He looks in *much* better shape for this fight. It's skill vs heart. Pettis can take a shot and appears game, but he does fold under pressure. We just don't know what Nate is gonna show up.

    It's an unbelievable card at the end of the day. Some fights deserve to just be enjoyed, imo. And the last 3 of the night fall into that category.

    Good luck to everyone though.
     
  7. Dooze Purple Belt

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    I think with certain fighters at the highest level (Romero, DC here) backing their opponents primarily based on an assumption that they're past it is too dangerous a game until there's evidence suggesting it in their most recent fights.

    Time does catch up to everyone, but these are freak athletes at the highest level of the game. Their opponents offer certain threats, but I personally feel capping/making bets putting too much stock on something we've yet to see is a risky game.
     
  8. KTFOvids Orange Belt

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    Romero is a huge MW but Costa looks so much bigger than yoel here.


    Just saw costa is the underdog. Fuck it, put some on costa by (t)ko +230
     
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  9. Broe. Brown Belt

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    Romero is a huge MW but Costa looks so much bigger than yoel here.[/QUOTE]
    He does not look bigger at all, just taller. Romero actually has bigger arms and bigger pectorials.
     
  10. KTFOvids Orange Belt

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    Is everyone just disagreeing with me lol?

    Sure, his pecs are larger; but Costa looks at least 5-10lbs bigger in that picture
     
  11. Yotsuya Brown Belt

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    Pettis looked very tense in face-off. Diaz first base.
     
  12. ApplesVild Banned Banned

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    I agree, Costa looks bigger, both thicker and taller
     
  13. theTKDguy Silver Belt

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    Yea he did. I've learnt not to make big assumptions from the fighters' attitude in the weigh ins tho, size is more important imo.
     
  14. Yotsuya Brown Belt

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    Mostly yeah, but one of Diaz's paths to victory is getting Pettis to brawl and I'd be way more worried if Pettis would have been his usual laidback self there.
     
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    I trust roufus and his coaching staff to keep him in check. The gameplan is clearly to kick the f out of nate and move a lot, stay out of boxing exchanges. He said it himself he's a kicker, nate's a boxer. That's the reason why he's lighter for this fight in comparisson to wb fight. The problem for me is his pacing and cardio, but i think he's good to go considering it's 3 rds.
     
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    A few things on the main event. I hear a lot about how stipe was winning fight before he was knocked out..ok but he still got knocked out and it wasn’t a fluke. Cormier is easily a better all around fighter and stipes chin has plenty of questions. The age thing is also overblown yes Cormier is 42 and will retire any day now but stipe is 36 and has faught some animals so he has plenty of wear and tear. He def took more damage than Cormier over the course of his career. I’m not saying this will go similar to the first fight I think it actually goes all 5 and will be close but I think Cormier wins it.
     
  17. Yotsuya Brown Belt

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    Diaz is making their job harder for sure. On the other hand, if Pettis fights tense trying to avoid brawling, that could mean lower output in general.
     
  18. theTKDguy Silver Belt

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    It's such a straight forward type of matchup that i would sincerely feel let down if pettis doesn't manage to beat nate. Nate is a solid fighter whose biggest attributes are cardio and chin but he's plodding and predictable. His rythym is not as good as max or tony's. He def has a good shot, pettis is not championship material and he breaks when the going gets tough, but i do think the more adaptable and intelligent fighter in should win tonight.

    Dan hardy agrees too. I respect the guy a lot and consider him a very good analyst so confidence increase.

     
  19. I respect the shit out of Dan Hardy, but some of his "inside the octagon" segments where he makes picks have just been plain terrible and he's been oh so wrong oh so many times.

    Biggest of which was Woodley vs Till. I bet against him there, and am doing the same here.
     
  20. Broe. Brown Belt

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    Yeah also his first cormier stipe breakdown didnt make any sense at all. Stipe was better in all areas, and now he has gone completely the other way around haha
     

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