UFC 241 Cormier vs Miocic II

Cowboy is a different kicker and that was years ago when Cowboy was way worse whe he got pressured. He fixed some of his weaknesses as we saw recently. Despite that he is standing fully straight throwing different kicks. Pettis is more fluent with his kicks and movement.

This is such a stretch to fit a narrative

You can just as easily say Pettis is a different kicker than the kickers who gave Diaz issues, and he is far worse than his prime self as his kicks havent been particularly effective recently.
 
This is such a stretch to fit a narrative

You can just as easily say Pettis is a different kicker than the kickers who gave Diaz issues, and he is far worse than his prime self as his kicks havent been particularly effective recently.

Pettis is mostly a better kicker than the guys that gave him trouble with leg kicks though (despite RDA). Conor is not some Muay Thai genius. He is known for his punches and body kicks, not for his leg kicks. Conor had a lot of success with basic leg kicks. No oblique or fancy kicks.

Pettis wasn’t able to outkick Tony or Wonderboy. No shame in that and about the out of prime thing, we don’t know where Nate is that. He is a punching bag who comes back after 3 years. Guys whose main skill is to walk forward lose that strength with age as we saw with Clay Guida 2 days ago. Nate could look good for sure but he could also look like shit. At least we know what to expect from Pettis and I do believe current Pettis is capable of beating the last Nate Diaz we saw.
 
People might not see it this way but in my opinion Pettis looks for ways out of fights. He tapped and quit to a body triangle, then he quit on the stool with a broken hand which wasn't broken.

He is hit and miss at the moment, win one lose one and all the losses are coming to step ups in competition, loss to Holloway, beat Jim Miller, lose to Dustin beat Chiesa. There's no doubt he's lost a step and is in a decline. Pettis has peaked and peaked a while a go.

I'd say the closest thing we've seen to the Diaz fight is when he fought Holloway, a volume punches who comes forward and pressures constantly. Now Diaz isn't the striker that Holloway is, doesn't have the footwork or movement and Holloway threw more kicks on that fight that usual. I don't think Diaz will do that, but he will take the centre, throw a lot of low power punches and accumulate damage over the rounds. Holloway got Pettis out of there in 3 and did it mainly with boxing. Holloway was also stronger in the cliche than Pettis and was able to push him back to the cage a few times, in a situation where Pettis should have had the strength and size advantage since was coming down in weight.

The time off will be good for Diaz I think, he might have some rust but he's also going to have healed all his injuries, rested his rattled brain, ge has the frame for welter weight and should have grown into it.

He's got the reach advantage, cardio advantage, doesn't quit in fights, should be the bigger stronger guy. Where does the advantage lie for Pettis? Just in the kicks?
 
Pettis is mostly a better kicker than the guys that gave him trouble with leg kicks though (despite RDA). Conor is not some Muay Thai genius. He is known for his punches and body kicks, not for his leg kicks. Conor had a lot of success with basic leg kicks. No oblique or fancy kicks.

Pettis wasn’t able to outkick Tony or Wonderboy. No shame in that and about the out of prime thing, we don’t know where Nate is that. He is a punching bag who comes back after 3 years. Guys whose main skill is to walk forward lose that strength with age as we saw with Clay Guida 2 days ago. Nate could look good for sure but he could also look like shit. At least we know what to expect from Pettis and I do believe current Pettis is capable of beating the last Nate Diaz we saw.

Of course he’s capable of winning. Gugabe was saying he should be -300. That’s a big difference.
 
Of course he’s capable of winning. Gugabe was saying he should be -300. That’s a big difference.
+350 Diaz is capable of homer simpsoning his way to a close decision, but he's probably gonna get teed off on at will to an embarassing, one-sided stoppage or decision. Pettis is probably one of the hardest kickers in UFC history, Diaz doesn't have the grappling pressure game that's been effective against him lately, and he's been out for 3 years. Pettis also doesn't have Conor's massive stamina issues, or even Michael Johnson's.
 
Diaz is a pretty mediocre fighter. He was always physically weak with no power, wrestling and weak defence. He only ever fought at 170 because he couldn't be bothered to cut weight. The only decent guys he ever beat were Cerrone, Michael Johnson and Conor and that was more down to them fighting like idiots than anything getting into sloppy boxing matches.

If you watch any of his fights against top guys who didn't just try and swing at him in boxing matches like RDA, Benson, MacDonald, Thompson etc. He gets his ass kicked and manhandled. There's a reason Pettis was running the LW division and Diaz was a journeymen.
 
+350 Diaz is capable of homer simpsoning his way to a close decision, but he's probably gonna get teed off on at will to an embarassing, one-sided stoppage or decision. Pettis is probably one of the hardest kickers in UFC history, Diaz doesn't have the grappling pressure game that's been effective against him lately, and he's been out for 3 years. Pettis also doesn't have Conor's massive stamina issues, or even Michael Johnson's.

Pettis doesn't have nearly their reach, boxing, or output either and his kicks haven't been all that prevalent lately. You seem to have a much rosier image of Pettis than the guy I have been watching lately.
 
Diaz is a pretty mediocre fighter. He was always physically weak with no power, wrestling and weak defence. He only ever fought at 170 because he couldn't be bothered to cut weight. The only decent guys he ever beat were Cerrone, Michael Johnson and Conor and that was more down to them fighting like idiots than anything getting into sloppy boxing matches.

If you watch any of his fights against top guys who didn't just try and swing at him in boxing matches like RDA, Benson, MacDonald, Thompson etc. He gets his ass kicked and manhandled. There's a reason Pettis was running the LW division and Diaz was a journeymen.
And you also say that Diaz’s boxing “isnt that good”

I’d agree about his lack of strength and wrestling.

Not sure if Pettis is going to be able to run laps around the cage and consistently land kicks without taking damaging and gassing
 
Guys halp. I might be putting a bet on Macedo. I'm worried for my mental health.

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Pettis is 6 and 4 in his last ten and 3 of those wins are over guys who aren't in the top 10 and the win over Thompson, as much as I loved it, was a hail Mary punch, he was getting beat down right up until that punch landed.

This is a 50/50 fight
 
And you also say that Diaz’s boxing “isnt that good”

I’d agree about his lack of strength and wrestling.

Not sure if Pettis is going to be able to run laps around the cage and consistently land kicks without taking damaging and gassing
His boxing really isn't that good. He has no power, relies on his length and his only real defence is a basic high guard. It's been effective vs guys with a reach disadvantage who just head hunt aggressively but there's nothing particularly great about it and its got a lot of holes.

Pettis doesn't really need to run laps, Diaz will need to constantly pressure to force Pettis out of kick range and be eating punishment the whole time he does it. He's definitely got the taller order having to stick to a gameplan for 15 minutes in order to hopefully edge a dec.
 
Guys halp. I might be putting a bet on Macedo. I'm worried for my mental health.

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Don't do it bro. Viana has a big reach advantage and is taking a step down from her last two opponents who were super close fights. You are just hoping that Macedo randomly learned to not suck, which is a big risk
 
Pettis is 6 and 4 in his last ten and 3 of those wins are over guys who aren't in the top 10 and the win over Thompson, as much as I loved it, was a hail Mary punch, he was getting beat down right up until that punch landed.

This is a 50/50 fight
And Diaz is 3-4 in the last 7 years with those wins being Conor McGasshard, the ghost of Gray Maynard and Johnson who was winning before going full retard. I'm not even sure I'd pick Diaz over guys like Chiesa nowadays. Good chance he just gets manhandled for 15 minutes.
 
Pettis is 6 and 4 in his last ten and 3 of those wins are over guys who aren't in the top 10 and the win over Thompson, as much as I loved it, was a hail Mary punch, he was getting beat down right up until that punch landed.

This is a 50/50 fight

You know what ? I'm gonna say it.... Nate is barely a top 10 fighter at 155 in 2019. For sure not at 170.

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And Diaz is 3-4 in the last 7 years with those wins being Conor McGasshard, the ghost of Gray Maynard and Johnson who was winning before going full retard. I'm not even sure I'd pick Diaz over guys like Chiesa nowadays. Good chance he just gets manhandled for 15 minutes.

Yeah so that shakes out to roughly a 50/50 fight, like I said.

Pettis broke his hand in the Holloway fight, broke his rib in the Dustin fight, broke his hand again in the Ferguson fight... He's either fragile or making excuses looking for a way out, but I've never seen him with a cast on his arm...

Pettis tends to fade after round one these days, where as Nate is known to build up steam. If Pettis is ahead and having success after round one I think he will keep that momentum going, but if he doesn't have a great first round he will be done and Nate will take over and could even finish as the rounds go on.
 
Don't do it bro. Viana has a big reach advantage and is taking a step down from her last two opponents who were super close fights. You are just hoping that Macedo randomly learned to not suck, which is a big risk
Yeah I just think Macedo is more athletic and is actually the better striker lol. Both have suspect gas tanks and I think Poly is gonna have grappling success up a weight class for the first time seeing how her wrestling is almost non existant and jiu jitsu might be overrated. Mundial champ credits haven't really translated into the cage imo.

Sorry, it's everywhere online man...


Noooooooo. My life is over :(
 
Yeah I just think Macedo is more athletic and is actually the better striker lol. Both have suspect gas tanks and I think Poly is gonna have grappling success up a weight class for the first time seeing how her wrestling is almost non existant and jiu jitsu might be overrated. Mundial champ credits haven't really translated into the cage imo.


Noooooooo. My life is over :(

Macedo has worse reach and output, and strikers often get a boost moving up a weight class. Viana KO'd Ribas at 115, she may get a bit of pop at 125.

Her BJJ may be a non-factor yet again, but it's nice to have in the back pocket at least. Especially if she has enough power to score a knockdown.
 
Gugabe is really riling up the crowd post stostic debacle lol i love it

I lean team pettis here for the record
 
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