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UFC FOX 22 - PVS vs Waterson - Sacramento

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  1. mkess101 Not the hero he deserves, but the hero he needs

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    Yep Kamaru is just more advanced with his striking. He really is quite a talent. Colby I don't think is THAT far behind, but far enough where he shouldn't be in there with Kamaru right now. No point in derailing Colby's momentum. He should be a top 5 guy before too long too.

    Plus Kamaru needs a big step up now. He's straight up brimming with confidence. Everyone else avoids Maia's name like it's the Harry Potter world and Maia is Voldemort, and Kamaru calls him out. That's what you love to see. Kamaru needs a top 5 guy next. Let's see if we're right about him. Kamaru/Condit would be okay by me. Kamaru/Lawler. There's plenty of awesome fights for him.
     
  2. Stunna77 Brown Belt

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    JB, remind me again are you on PVZ or Waterson? Keep going back and forth. Probably won't bet it since clearly not confident but jw. I watched KH vs Magana last night and wasn't overly impressed. Magana pushed her to the fence rather easily in rd 1 and damn near subbed her from her back with armbar. Seemed Magana was spent after that and KH dominated the next two rounds, but I have to believe PVZ's athleticism and cardio could give her problems. Really tough fight to call imo.
     
  3. Stunna77 Brown Belt

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    Mkess love to hear your opinion on that fight too.
     
  4. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Kamaru vs anyone in top 15 next gets me excited

    I'm on PVZ by unan dec but not confident. I'm notorious around these parts for talking about how horrible she is lol I can't tell you how long i've dreaded this fight being made because I think these women are both highly over rated. But of all the value lines I saw, I liked the +425 on this play more than anything. I can see PVZ athleticism, ability to bully, scrambling and gnp take her to a win. If shes improving as well, (has to be, comes from a good team and clearly one of the better athletes in the division) than that thought only further pushed me toward this play
     
  5. mkess101 Not the hero he deserves, but the hero he needs

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    Anyone else liking Bojan NSC as much as I am at -115? I really think the chances of Aliev stopping Bojan are small, while I think Bojan sub is realistic. I have some on it already, thinking of adding.

    I am really not getting all the confidence in Frankenstein either. Man watching that fight with Wilson, he had his hands at his sides and got BOMBED by Wilson in that one. Showed good chin and recovery, but wow is his defense lazy. And while Craig's level of competition is obviously lower, his grappling transitions looked SLICK. If Frankenstein gets lazy again, Craig can catch him and lock in a sub quickly before Bojan recovers. Not seeing everyone so comfortable laying juice and playing Frankenstein's KO line, etc. Do I slightly favor him? Sure. -225? No way.

    I see Colby -3.5 is now -195. Still a bit of value imo, though I like my -170 much better obviously. I cannot see how Barb wins a round here. And even if one round happens to be competitive (and I think that's about the best Barb can hope for), Colby would only need one judge to give it to him to cover. I added a bit before this line gets even worse. Makes my overall line worse a bit, but I'll live with it to get more on this. Could be -220 by fight time.
     
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    Cant use 5dimes in uk
     
  7. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Faber fastest sub +1000. Amazing line
     
  8. mkess101 Not the hero he deserves, but the hero he needs

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    I like Waterson, but like Joe B not super confident. I like Waterson skillset better. She's a more fluid striker and a bit better grappler imo. That said, I'd favor PVZ's gas tank and she is a little bigger.

    I'm on the o4.5 as I don't see a finish here. I also have Waterson by dec. I did make a play on PVZ by split/maj at +1033 because I think it's gonna be a very close fight and could see her winning the second half and this ending up in a split very easily.

    I think everyone should be watching VERY closely to see if Waterson slows down at all starting in rd 3. If she's somewhat clearly winning early but looks to be slowing, PVZ could have amazing LB potential at very nice odds.
     
  9. Stunna77 Brown Belt

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    Oh I know you are, back when I just lurked I tailed you on Rose and Rose sub, that's why I asked for your thoughts haha. Thanks for that by the way!
     
  10. MMA Goodfella #Engaged + a Joe-Jitsu Piano Belt Capper

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    Stylistically it's a terrible match up for Miller say what you will.

    BTW: please don't PM me and talk shit anymore. I couldn't believe that I have a p.m. from you talking about my ducking out on the sidebet when I have offered it up to countless times .
     
  11. mkess101 Not the hero he deserves, but the hero he needs

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    Good catch dude. Hit that.

    I know I missed the opener at +3000, but still really like Aldana fastest KO at +2500.

    Hit Jouban/Perry and Craig/Frankenstein small for FOTN too.
     
  12. LEMONZEST Planning parlays...

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    After going back and forth i will end up with a couple units on KH. I just refuse to believe someone so inexperienced can beat someone that trained in Karate and MT for most of their life. If KH loses it will hurt on a philisophical level as i love MT and Karate.

    Sure Page is athletic but she doesnt look much bigger or stronger.
     
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    Can you convince me not to be a man and throw a full unit on it? Lol i'm .3u deep on that +1000 and I keep thinking its wroth even more. The people who are more favored are Gall +250 (lol cmon. Besides my arguments for why he might not even win, it took him 3 full mins on the mat to sub Punk), Craig +900 (maybe but Silva is tough as fuck, doubt he gets subbed real quick), and Cole +550 (maybe but Hirota gets same argument as Silva, so tough and Cole got off to such a slow start last fight).

    Faber's own words were hes coming out like a kamikaze. I see Pickett embracing that. I fucking love this line lol
     
  14. Stunna77 Brown Belt

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    I actually but .5u on the under at +125 just because I see a lot of grappling and wouldn't be surprised if someone locks in a sub or PVZ finishes late if KH slows down. But I agree with your first paragraph completed, just feel like in WMMA Paige's relentless pressure and cardio is enough against most besides top 5 in that division.
     
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    You guys are gonna feel silly when the clearly skilled fighter Waterson dominates Paige.
     
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    And a 10x better grappler. With a better camp.
     
  17. TimCoreCombat Green Belt

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    Thanks goodness. I'm trying to cap fights but I think I've seen only two pages of actual discussion.
     
  18. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Mentally prepared for this possibility
     
  19. Stunna77 Brown Belt

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    I agree KH is the more skilled fighter, but like I said I think Paige can get by most girls in that division with her aggressiveness and cardio. Plus she has to be improving fight to fight, at least you would hope. Lol. No bet for me tho besides the under small.
     
  20. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Now .4u deep on Faber fastest sub +1000. Please, if anyone has a good argument as to why I should back down before I reach a full unit, let me know. Otherwise thats probably what will happen within the next 3 hours. One of the best value lines i've seen of these prop types
     
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