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Discussion in 'MMA Betting Discussion' started by MMA Goodfella, Jun 17, 2017.

  1. timmyclax22 Green Belt

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    Terrible fight but awesome knockout. I liked Goddard warning them.

    I was just happy it ended I couldn't watch much longer.
     
  2. Tony J Blue Belt

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    Took a small hit today. I am happy on a non-Scoggins play simply based on his fight iq, and I have to give myself a Barry Hirowitz pat on the back even if no money made there. Holm came through big on that silly match-up. Picked Kim but hedged Pudilova by decision so a draw there.

    The big hits were Camacho/Li going the distance as well as Arlovski/Tybura. If just one of those hit, I'd be up the opposite way, and if both hit.. wow. Oh well, props tend to burn me so this is a valuable lesson that will sharpen me up next go around.
     
  3. ill800 Founder of Eugenics Society of Gambling Banned

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    Holm was a "lock" imo. Yea the ml sucked but I just couldn't see bethe avoiding the head kick for five rounds.
     
  4. Mcgregorian Purple Belt

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    Haha Harris's begging didn't still didn't land him the $50k

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  5. lawmills2006 Purple Belt

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    4u up overall. Up to 65u profit for the year thus far.
     
  6. Barkus Brown Belt

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    I think mentioning a performance bonus actually decreases your odds of getting a bonus.
     
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  9. MMA Goodfella #Engaged + a Joe-Jitsu Piano Belt Capper

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    Holm ITD +100 // 2.00u
    Harris ITD at -180 risking 3.40 units

    Parlay: -103
    Holm -525 » Inoue -270 » Scoggins -485. Risk 7.5 // 7.26u

    Parlay: +152
    Holm -525 » ColbyDHK Over 2½ -260 » Harris ITD -190 risk 4.0 // 6.08u

    Need to add but small profit. Yay!

    So.. pretty good for this shit card. Cannot believe Justin Scoggins killed one of my parlays. Damn you @JimGunn for fucking cursing me. Lol

    So my thoughts on this card were the following takeaways:

    Inoue: like I was saying all week, this kid is a fucking animal. Only 20 years old and the sky is the limit. If his striking and wrestling improves holy fucking moly!!! I cannot remember the last time I seen a grappling fest like that in MMA. Chaining together submissions just in rapidfire sequences flowing seamlessly. Just an absolute clinic. Might have been the best. He is most certainly the future. The kid (not him specifically) we have been talking about for the last five years, who were going to transcend the sport with a full blend of martial arts.

    Harris: still hold out lots of hope for the sky. Thank you has a lot of problems. His game can continue to evolve and he is going to be a handful 14. Strong, fast, athletic explosive and absolute power house.

    RDA: Excellent performance! Just what we all knew: RDA is the pressure fighter which has always been Tarec's career kryptonite. I think he needs to get away from Team-Quest while he can. I have a theory and that is that training with fighters like Hendo + Lindland + Chael + Ed Herman and Mike Pierce created bad habits for him. That is because those type of guys are all clinch fighters. They like to press their man against the fence and work from there.i believe that him being pushed against the cage so much from him early training create about habits that are reinforced through their style. By now, at this point or muscle memory.

    As for RDA though, he looked strong as ever and I believe that he can make a legitimate run just like he did at lightweight.

    Arlovski/Tybura: As advertised, the big Polish heavyweight is better than most people thought. He totally smashed Arlovski in the first round nearly get in the finish multiple times. I think he showed a ton of resolve and adversity fighting back from a cardio done after being attritted looking for the finish. Andrei really gave up a victory here indicating he should hang them up.

    Covington/DHK: very impressed with Colby here. He absolutely shutdown the grappling of a very outstanding Judoka with historically near impenetrable takedown defense. Still yet, Covington needs to spend a lot more time with Gamebred in Florida with 12 ounce gloves on as his striking still is very rudimentary. However his wrestling is so good he might just be able to get inside the top five without too much striking needed. I mean, I think he waxes a Neil Magny for instance.

    Betche/Holm: What an absolutely dreadful first 2.5 rounds that was. Jesus fucking Christ. Stick needles in my eyes already. Worst opening starts since I was 16 years old and rented UFC Dan Severn vs. Ken Shamrock "Super Fight" from Blockbuster on VHS back in 1996. I was so pumped to get home and watch the fight! Then I circled each other like they were both wearing magnets. Horrible disappointment! Totally fell asleep face first on my nachos. Yes the opening stanzas were worse than Kevin Jordan and Gabriel Gonzaga before it ended in the same fashion. Violently! I do hope that this is the last we see of the awkward Brazilian pugilist as she is the lowest level talent I've ever seen headline multiple modern UFC main events.

    As for Holly, she is fortunate that Betche decided to act thefool. If Betche didn't pull one of the most epic fails since Anderson V. Weidman, she is fighting on the UFC fight pass curtain jerker next time out.

    That's it. Hope everyone had a good time. And made money. I couldn't purchase plate covers my dumbass fell sleep after staying up so late to even watch LOL.
     
  10. MMA Goodfella #Engaged + a Joe-Jitsu Piano Belt Capper

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    Wanted to give separate thoughts on Justin Scoggins:


    So at this point a kid with this much talent shouldn't be losing like in similar fashion this on a consistent basis. One time, two times maybe, but three times is a trend. And it happens later in the fight after early success has proved that he is the better fiber. This to me has mental psychology written all over it. I remember when Chael used to do the exact same thing. He would be up 2/3 rounds or more on his opponent and then he would mentally check out and give up a submission on a SilverPlatter. This was the case when a first fought Paulo Filho, Forrest Griffin (IIRC), Babalu and then of course the most infamous Anderson Silva fifth round after winning 4 3/4 rounds. I even think it came back to play some part in his latest fight with Tito Ortiz given that he had been out so long the old ghosts came back to haunt him once more.

    Chael actually said that he went to a sports psychologist because he knew he was finding a way out subconsciously. I believe this is to be true with Justin Scoggins ATP.

    THE FIX? Just 25. years old, he shoucompletely step away from the sport for at least nine months and lock himself in a BJJ training facility with someone like like a Jiu Jitsu phenom in the mold of a JT Torres or João Miyao who are similarly sized choke specialists as opposed to choke artists. BJJ players who can just put him through the paces on the mat to the point where he will be so self-conscious about leaving his neck exposed that he wears turtlenecks year round.

    He can come back and hopefully having sewed up all of his defensive liabilities before he loses again and the next thing you know he's hanging out with Dennis Kang on a beach somewhere drinking rum from a coconut trading "what if" stories.
     
  11. EzFlyer Titanium Belt

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    Holm getting POTN = lol. Wow.

    Also it's proof: if you ask for a bonus, you will not get a bonus
    (Looking at you, Walt Harris)
     
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  13. MidgardSerpent Black Belt

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    I don't understand why people were so annoyed with Harris. I watched that fight today and it didn't seem THAT out of line, we've definitely seen way worse groveling.
     
  14. EzFlyer Titanium Belt

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    I was just reinforcing the idea that asking for it won't get it for ya.. I absolutely thought he should've had it over holly
     
  15. Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

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    He literally has some of the worst fight IQ of all UFC fighters. He could have kept that fight standing and beat him up throughout. If he must go for takedowns, he could have ground and pound and then stood back up. I have no idea why he chooses to grapple so much.
     
  16. waiguoren Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    I enjoyed this event, especially because there were no horrendously late stoppages. Kwak-Doane was a bit late cause Perceval gonna Perceval, but at least Yamasaki was not on this event.
     
  17. Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

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    I thought the prelims blew the main card out of the water. My favorite fight was probably Inoue's.
     
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    Agree, though I also enjoyed Covington's domination
     
  19. MidgardSerpent Black Belt

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    Wasn't specifically aimed at you. I didn't watch the fight live, but I read some of the comments beforehand and I expected him to be literally on his knees begging for the bonus or something. That being said, Holly getting the bonus is like Mir getting the bonus against Crocop.... yeah, we got a finish, but the rest of the fight was bad bad bad.
     
  20. MMA Goodfella #Engaged + a Joe-Jitsu Piano Belt Capper

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    Apologies for just responding but I've been out of town.

    Yes, Justin's might have the worst fight IQ, for an elite fighter that I've ever witnessed. I really cannot think of anyone else. It's got to be psychological like I said. He mental checks out. He dropped Ulka like three times standing up and you continue to play around in his guard and get into scrambles which significantly increase The probability of him getting caught in a sneaky submission. What's more, his corner has to shoulder some blame given that they didn't tell him to make this a fight that takes place 100% on the feet having that opponent has like 13 submissions LOL just crazy
     

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