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UFN 112 - Chiesa vs Lee - Oklahoma City

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  1. wack3d Silver Belt

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    is it just me or Guida put on some serious muscle? could just be my memory but i dont remember him ever looking this good (no homo)

     
  2. Wiktoruspro Brown Belt

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    Holy shit, you are right
     
  3. BatBoyJG Brown Belt

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    Oh my bad, I thought that was pretty good honestly. When you say pressing you mean OHP? That sounds pretty hard to me lol. No problem with the BP I got up to 215lb at 165-170

    Nah I'm not black bro. I'm Dominican so like kind of but not exactly. I don't think anyone I know would say that I'm athletic, I'm barley average I would say. I don't have very good hand eye coordination & am not very good at any sport with a ball lol. Max Deadlift was 425 though.
     
  4. Sham5916910 Silver Belt

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    If by pressing you mean ohp anyone who can press their bodyweight (not push press strict press) can consider themselves strong
     
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  7. Stunna77 Brown Belt

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    Can't say I am surprised.
     
  8. 2bet Green Belt

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    I am fading Boetsch HARD and expect him to get finished.

    I don't think he will last over 2.5 rounds, hell, Boetsch's last 8 fights did not get to round 3.

    Boetsch is not a point fighter, and he is no Colby Cuddle Covington either.

    He will try to knock Johnys head off, but I highly doubt that he can do that since he is fucking slow and one dimensional, plus Johny does have a chin with a mighty beard on him.
    - but if he somehow can make it, my under bet hits anyway.

    In his last 5 losses Boetsch always got finished, Hendo did it within 30 seconds, and Ed Herman Koed him as well.

    Johny doesn't have to worry so much about his weight cut anymore, he is fighting in his home state and he is super motivated, he is having fun again.

    Hendricks hasn't finished anybody in five years in the octogon (meanwhile he did finish every single meal of his, I am sure) - but look at his opponents. All Top 10 guys. Thompson and Gastelum have yet to ever get finished.

    I favor Hendricks in every area.
    Is he a crazy knockout machine, fighting in his prime? No.
    Refer to my first sentence, I am fading Boetsch hard, they both have punching power, and I see a lot of value in 2.40 / +140.
    I would expect this fight to end ITD around 60% of the time.

    Boetsch is fucking done and Hendricks will retire him (I hope)
     
  9. EzFlyer Titanium Belt

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    I don't get your confidence

    Johnny hasn't finished anyone in 5 years and has regressed... He's a grinder now...

    The Ed Herman fight is the only real red flag on Boetsch' resume.. but he looked better than ever physically the very next fight and had did again right afterwards

    The other guys who got him out of there in the past couple years are submission masters and hendo with his h-bomb.. idk. I get you're arguing a +odds side but I don't get the confidence
     
  10. iGnP Silver Belt

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    Yeah I did mean OHP. Maybe I didn't overestimate how much you should be able to press @Oblivian what do you think is a good ratio to press?

    Edit sorry guys I meant it should be average for a pro athlete. Not recreational lifters
     
  11. quincy k Brown Belt

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    i dont think tim is done. he took the souza fight on short notice but before that has stoppages over natal and samman.

    and he really did not take sustained damage against hendo and hermann so it wouldnt surprise me at all to see him end up on top of johhny in the first round like he did agaisnt thales.

    i bought tim at +205 and hoping to middle or free roll after the first round.
     
  12. Caicara Purple Belt

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    Tim is a good bet. I'm on him
     
  13. jrleclerc88 Brown Belt

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    "Average" for someone who somewhat lifts. The "average" person who doesn't lift isn't hitting those #s, especially not squatting
     
  14. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Damn you're almost black? Very #elite
     
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    Fair enough, they are both veterans and it might also end like Belfort/Marquardt.

    I am not advocating a big play on the under, I was just surprised/shocked that kushn4pushin said he dropped 1k (I don't know his bankroll size, but 1k is quite a lot for most players) on the under.

    1k on a -172 line for a O2.5 in a fight with a guy that didn't get to round 3 in his last 8 fights, that cannot be the right choice imo.

    Boetsch is a get-a-knockout-or-get-finished guy for me.

    Despite that, I have 4 open parlays that would all close with a hendricks ml win, for 15u plus.
    That alone would be my third biggest win per event ever, so I might be reaching and hating on Boetsch too much.

    I have 2,5u on the U2.5 ;)
     
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  16. Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

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    If you are talking about a strict press, a lot of people make a goal for BW. I think I've only done 110% of BW and my press is one of my better lifts compared to others. 125% of BW is considered very good.

    Now if you are talking about push press (using your legs as well to get it overhead), BW should be fairly easy. I've done 150% BW.

    IMO, Squat and Deadlift are probably the most applicable to fighting and measuring strength.

    Edit: Also keep in mind BW ratios aren't the best in regards to comparing. A 150 lbs guy is expected to have a higher BW ratio than a 200 lbs guy.
     
  17. wack3d Silver Belt

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    guess you made those bets before you watched the hendricks video that was posted here? Hendricks clearly dont give a fuck about fighting anymore. i would never bet on a fighter hwo let himself go like this..

     
  18. TheOneTrueKing 4th most under appreciated tipster @betmmatips

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    anyone got any links to Darrell Horcher more recent fights? i only got these 2 old ones




    brooks and liguori highlight
     
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    EZ said that Brown was flaming and he got yellow'd. I was talking with brown via PM's and he suddenly stopped replying because he got banned, but I don't know why.
     
  20. MacPherson911 Blue Belt

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    What about the Vettori fight?
     
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