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Discussion in 'MMA Betting Discussion' started by EzFlyer, Oct 1, 2016.

  1. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    No, he won the fight because judges decided that 30-60 second flurry in round 4 was enough for him to take what was otherwise a very close round. Fair enough, i'm not mad at that at all.

    Dodson won the first round on all 3 judges cards, you realize that right? loll

    I don't know why you so frequently resort to telling people 'you don't understand people's opinions' while so loudly trying to get yours across. Relax guy. If you can't handle the discussion than stop
     
  2. SBJJ Steel Belt

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    Nothing loud about me brother. I try not to say my opinions are CLEAR unlike some. Some in the media and some in here thought Lineker edged the 1st. You do understand that right? And that opinion is fine as is yours. Do u even know my position? Have I said either guy clearly won any round? Have I complained about the decision? Have I said any other opinion was wrong?

    Also. U should try to ease up on the Lol's every time u disagree with someone. Maybe reread your posts before u post them. I'm really not alone in the belief that your posts many times come off as insulting.
     
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  3. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    One person out of like 25 media scores gave Lineker round 1. Yet when I say Dodson won round 1 clearly, somehow despite that fact, to you that is me being opinionated......

    No offense mate, but when immediately after a razor close fight you come in here with claims like anyone who said Lineker being one note was wrong with no backing to that whatsoever, i'm not sure how you don't expect to come across as having a brash opinion. Its hard not to come across braggadocious when you allude backing Dodson was dumb and people who made a case for him were wrong. This wasn't a blow out, it was a razor close fight that played out basically how both sides of the argument though it would. Lineker just did enough to get the nod from 2/3 judges in a fight that likely came down to a super close 4th round.
     
  4. Shoulder #29 most average paid MMA bettor on Sherdog.

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    Ok event for me except last event, about break evens with Smolka as the big fail. Had Dodson ML and Lineker dec hedged, but i kept adding units on Dodson when the odds was about 3.60 in the forth. That costed me about 4U, but i got most of it back by the dec. If Dodson would have gotten the nod I would have been glorious.
     
  5. LEMONZEST Planning parlays...

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    Agreed. I dont mind a stick and move gameplan but running away while strategically sound should still be penalized ( on the cards).

    After all we are judging who won a fight so i dont mind literal running away being detrimental to points.

    Just my 2c
     
  6. EzFlyer Titanium Belt

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    ^^ i agree. whole-heartedly

    running can be smart, but it's a bad freakin look
     
  7. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    My question is, how many of you are agreeing that 'running' shouldn't be scored favorably, but think when a guy hugs i.e. Nelson vs Lewis you score it for the guy who hugs and does zero damage :p
     
  8. LEMONZEST Planning parlays...

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    I have been thinking about this. I think the game should change to favour damage. I dont think holding someone on the fence should count for much.

    Even being on top shouldnt count for much if nothing is landed. The whole LNP thing shouldnt provide points to guy on top.

    Lets say one guy is stuck on bottom for 90% of the round but then lands some clean shots standing before the bell. I rather favour the guy landing shots than the LNP. I dunno maybe everyone thinks this?
     
  9. Brick Top Yellow Swag Banned

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    Me when someone says resetting to the center in combat sports is running
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  10. Ukram Silver Belt

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    http://www.ufc.com/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations

    C: Judges shall evaluate mixed martial arts techniques, such as effective striking, effective grappling, control of the ring/fighting area, effective aggressiveness and defense

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  11. rille31 Brown Belt

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    I feel like alot of guys here aply their own set of rules when judging the outcome of the fights

    like it or not, grappling and octagon control is a part of the mma game
     
  12. Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Every fight is circumstantial in this sport. You can make general rules to follow, but as all of hardcores know virtually every fight is different which always leave discussion for how the scoring criteria applies.

    I'm just baffled its still such a point of discussion, when it really had no effect on the out come in my eyes lol. Dodson won 2 rounds, and to some people including one judge a 3rd, doing this. Its not like he can plant and throw with Lineker. I do think Dodson would've helped his cause a fuck ton though if he had actually reset to the center. He basically just went from one side of the cage to the other lol

    You left out the key word though, which is EFFECTIVE.

    Now this is just food for thought, but I think a person could EASILY make an argument what some are criticizing Dodson for is more effective than say what Nelson did to Lewis. There was nothing effective about what Nelson did, he grabbed on for dear life in the last two rounds. In that debatable 3rd was his grappling more effective than Lewis' striking? I'd say no way, but many were peeved Lewis got the decision. Dodson controlled the exchanges as DC pointed out many times, and even landed at a better clip than Lineker. So its all highly interpretive.
     
  13. waiguoren Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Perfect statement from a perceptive veteran. No action on this fight for me btw.
     
  14. waiguoren Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Dodson landed the cleaner shots in most rounds. Sure, "octagon control" is a judging criterion, but how much should it count compared to getting blasted with clean, short shots?
     
  15. Agent Mulder Black Belt

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    Depends who I bet on. ;)
     
  16. weedreference Green Belt

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    Got absolutely massacred... down 14.5 units (2nd most this year behind the Rockhold/Bisping card where I lost 17).

    Made some bad bets, was on the wrong side of a lot of close fights... too much of a risk overall for this card. Hard not to continually let it ride when things are going well.

    As far as the actual fights, I only have one commment...

    Wow Burkman is bad.
     
  17. robot Orange Belt

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    Wow. Just watched it. Scored it rds 1,4,5 for dodson.

    Good fight.

    Give us Cody v Linker
     
  18. EzFlyer Titanium Belt

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    In mma, aggression is extremely important. Way more than boxing. And I prefer it immensely. If one guy is trying and failing, that's better than the other guy who's doing nothing.

    Unrelated:

    Lineker threw like 100 more punches I think?
     
  19. waiguoren Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Sure, but that doesn't apply to this fight. Dodson was not "doing nothing".
     
  20. EzFlyer Titanium Belt

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    it applies a little, in that they rewarded the aggression

    but i was speaking generally, responding indirectly to lemonzest's post
     

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