War machine vs lee Murray

I thought War Machine committed suicide for some reason, looks like his earliest release date is 2053 and he's still alive.
 
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Lee would kill war machine IMO.
 
Ripp0ntare said:
Murray would have outlast him but would have been a fun fight actually

they should book it in cell block 6. Winner gets a porn mag for a week
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They'd both tap before they'd get matched with Brett Rogers
 
There need to be a prison fighting championship. Open weight Grand Prix to determine the baddest man in that lockup. Then a tournament of “champions” to determine state and then country and then world champion. Winner gets to live.
 
HHJ said:
Lee is 44 yrs old now,and got a 25 yr sentence. So he's got 9 more yrs to go,and he'll be 53 when he gets out. So he def sacrificed his prime yrs in prison,but he might still know how to get at that money when he's out. Dont seem worth it lol.
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The money wasn't recovered, from what I've read. There was a big controversy over whether they would actually be court-ordered to repay the money.
 
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now i need to watch undisputed movie....
 
War Machine was/is a real piece of shit. Would have loved to see Lee re-arrange his face.
 
War Machine is definitely more well-rounded, like someone previously pointed out. His wrestling would be the deciding factor, 'cause his jiu jitsu is far superior.

I know it's a popular opinion to crap on people like Jon Jones and War Machine and call them a POS, even though you don't know them... But they do have lots in common and Jon Jones was picked and blessed by GOD to be a GOAT. The truth is lots of you aren't much better humans. Lots of you guys $hit talk people that would smash you literally because you're behind your keyboard and not in their presence. So let's put this into perspective...

How would YOU react to catching your wife doing a guy we'll call... a midget? (for perspective sake) Lots of you guys would probably react in a similar fashion, your lives are just not being microscoped like fighters are. Sure, he could've gotten a lot more support and fans if he didn't hurt his wife in the altercation, but the reality is she hurt him first and if "equality" was a thing, he wouldn't be spending his whole life behind bars. Had he only hurt the dude, many more people would claim to "understand" him and his sentence would be reduced by a factor of 5. The truth is that cheater had karma coming to her one way or another.
 
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UFCFantasyMVP said:
I know it's a popular opinion to crap on people like Jon Jones and War Machine and call them a POS, even though you don't know them... But they do have lots in common and Jon Jones was picked and blessed by GOD to be a GOAT.
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And the rest of the post is even worse lmao. Lol @ people like this existing.
 
HHJ said:
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And the rest of the post is even worse lmao. Lol @ people like this existing.
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It's just a shame to see how judgmental the average person is in 2022. People cheat and sleep around all the time and that's not okay, but it's accepted in today's world. And that's unfortunate. In a roundabout way, I'm just sayin' I'd much, much, much rather receive an a$$ whooping from hell than to witness my girl was cheating on me. And there's nothin' wrong with that thought process. So who's to say what she did was better than what he did? It's literally JUST conscience and opinion.

But MORALLY, you're right, he's probably not the greatest person in the world simply 'cause he's a super sensitive and emotional FIGHTER that got carried away. He literally loved his woman to a fault. Not sayin' what he did was warranted, but I am sayin' if she had the same passion for him, he'd have lived a much better life. And in a way, that's super tragic.
 
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UFCFantasyMVP said:
It's just a shame to see how judgmental the average person is in 2022. People cheat and sleep around all the time and that's not okay, but it's accepted in today's world. And that's unfortunate. In a roundabout way, I'm just sayin' I'd much, much, much rather receive an a$$ whooping from hell than to witness my girl was cheating on me. And there's nothin' wrong with that thought process. So who's to say what she did was better than what he did? It's literally JUST conscience and opinion.

But MORALLY, you're right, he's probably not the greatest person in the world simply 'cause he's a super sensitive and emotional FIGHTER that got carried away. He literally loved his woman to a fault. Not sayin' what he did was warranted, but I am sayin' if she had the same passion for him, he'd have lived a much better life. And in a way, that's super tragic.
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Im pretty sure cheating on your boyfriend is not as bad as attempted murder,just sayin. Also,LOL how is she supposed to have the same passion for him when he beat her all the time? Im not sure if you bothered to read about this situation at all,but he was highly abusive to her even before this.

Imagine trying to deal with someone like this (timestamped)



Its pretty clear the guy cannot be in society.
 
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HHJ said:
Im pretty sure cheating on your boyfriend is not as bad as attempted murder,just sayin. Also,LOL how is she supposed to have the same passion for him when he beat her all the time? Im not sure if you bothered to read about this situation at all,but he was highly abusive to her even before this.

Imagine trying to deal with someone like this (timestamped)



Its pretty clear the guy cannot be in society.
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Sucks that she got out of the relationship that way, just like it sucks how he retaliated against them. She deserved karma, though. She started it! But nobody cares about that. "Attempted murder" is a little extreme, but I get your point. (The whole case is super disturbing).

It kinda makes me think T.J. shouldn't ever fight in the UFC again. Yeah, it's a ridiculous thought, 'cause in today's world, cheating's so normal that he's getting an immediate title shot, but it should've never happened. Suspensions like that are not going to stop people and that could really hinder UFC's growth. There needs to be different consequences and "fairness" would be a step in the right direction.
 
UFCFantasyMVP said:
Sucks that she got out of the relationship that way, just like it sucks how he retaliated against them. She deserved karma, though. She started it! But nobody cares about that. "Attempted murder" is a little extreme, but I get your point. (The whole case is super disturbing).
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No,its not extreme,that is what happened,he nearly beat her to death and lol @ what people "deserve"

She started it? started what? being beaten? She testified in court that he beat her all the time before this instance. But she's the evil one for sleeping w someone else? lol k
 
HHJ said:
No,its not extreme,that is what happened,he nearly beat her to death and lol @ what people "deserve"

She started it? started what? being beaten? She testified in court that he beat her all the time before this instance. But she's the evil one for sleeping w someone else? lol k
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"Attempted murder" is super extreme. He wouldn't use his hands if those were his true intentions. But if they were, he could've done it long before that incident.

What she started is their rivalry. Never said she was the "evil one" or that she deserved what she got, but she was destined to get something. Cheaters are never happy, simply 'cause they don't deserve to be. They ruin people's lives and karma's a thing. It's not like they DON'T deserve their lives to be ruined. (He didn't even ruin her life, he ruined her month, she ruined his life, kinda 'cause she cheated on him, think about that) Not everyone's an angel like you and would thank her for cheating. Adrenaline changes people.

If she hit you, the society we live in says you should smile at her, but the reality is that not everyone will do that. Jon Jones believes bible talk "treat others how you wanna be treated," so someone like him isn't going to let themselves be mistreated. But God will forgive that, 'cause he's not breaking any commandments. (He's still blessed with all the tools to be the best! And those tools are "God given") He's trying to live with equality, 'cause he's not putting her on a pedestal higher than him. 'Cause, despite "vagina privilege," things should be equal. I'm not trying to justify anything, but at the end of the day, your heart is all that really matters. Chael said Jon was super easy to work with when Jon fought at Submission Underground and I hear a lot of stories about how giving he is with his wealth.

I'm just saying there's a lot more to this stuff than what you hear. It's like TUF, there's a camera crew on them 24/7, but not even a quarter of it gets filmed. You don't know these people are complete dirtbags. You judge them because of the stuff you hear. "lol at you" too for all the assumptions you make and for getting aggressive when I was trying to be nice. haha. Whether or not you train, act like a real martial artist man. I'm not trying to argue. I'm just sayin how I feel.
 
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UFCFantasyMVP said:
"Attempted murder" is super extreme. He wouldn't use his hands if those were his true intentions. But if they were, he could've done it long before that incident.

What she started is their rivalry. Never said she was the "evil one" or that she deserved what she got, but she was destined to get something. Cheaters are never happy, simply 'cause they don't deserve to be. They ruin people's lives and karma's a thing. It's not like they DON'T deserve their lives to be ruined. (He didn't even ruin her life, he ruined her month, she ruined his life, kinda 'cause she cheated on him, think about that) Not everyone's an angel like you and would thank her for cheating. Adrenaline changes people.

If she hit you, the society we live in says you should smile at her, but the reality is that not everyone will do that. Jon Jones believes bible talk "treat others how you wanna be treated," so someone like him isn't going to let themselves be mistreated. But God will forgive that, 'cause he's not breaking any commandments. (He's still blessed with all the tools to be the best! And those tools are "God given") He's trying to live with equality, 'cause he's not putting her on a pedestal higher than him. 'Cause, despite "vagina privilege," things should be equal. I'm not trying to justify anything, but at the end of the day, your heart is all that really matters. Chael said Jon was super easy to work with when Jon fought at Submission Underground and I hear a lot of stories about how giving he is with his wealth.

I'm just saying there's a lot more to this stuff than what you hear. It's like TUF, there's a camera crew on them 24/7, but not even a quarter of it gets filmed. You don't know these people are complete dirtbags. You judge them because of the stuff you hear. "lol at you" too for all the assumptions you make.
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lol at you
 
HHJ said:
lol at you
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I actually changed the very end of my message, 'cause I don't like to leave angry, apparently after you quoted it. Haha. I'm just tryin' to have a friendly discussion here, man. Yes, I stand up for people, but that's only when very few others will. ('cause it's common to judge people like that) 'Cause I think outside the box. I'm not saying I agree with all these actions, I just... I try to understand people. Cause I know what it feels like to be misunderstood. Thanks for the chat. I legitimately had fun, even though I question how friendly you are. lol. But it's 5am here. Goodnight. haha.
 
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UFCFantasyMVP said:
I actually changed the very end of my message, 'cause I don't like to leave angry, apparently after you quoted it. Haha. I'm just tryin' to have a friendly discussion here, man. Yes, I stand up for people, but that's only when very few others will. ('cause it's common to judge people like that) 'Cause I think outside the box. I'm not saying I agree with all these actions, I just... I try to understand people. Cause I know what it feels like to be misunderstood. Thanks for the chat. I legitimately had fun, even though I question how friendly you are. lol. But it's 5am here. Goodnight. haha.
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I can understand where you are comin from. I just think its misplaced here. I was a fan of War Machine and sympathized with where his fucked up upbringing took him,which wasnt his fault.

its just,that he had so many chances to turn it around,and thats where he ended up. I can no longer sympathize with him. He nearly killed this girl. Violence is his only tool to solve anything. He succumbed to his demons. They won.
 
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