What does it feel like to be on anabolic steroids? Similar to HRT or worse?

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  1. Eusung

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    I always got the impression that it doesn't feel good.

    Roid rage, mood swings, and other side effects.

    HGH and TRT on the other hand seem like they make people FEEL good both mentally and physically.

    Anaboilic steroids sound like they give you a huge physical advantage but not so much the positive mental benefits (elevated mood, focus, better sleep, motivation, confidence) that HRT does.

    It makes me wonder why in this day and age heavy lifters even bother with old fashioned roids when they can get something far less dangerous in HRT.
     
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    So much misinformsation here.

    Trt would bring levels to a normal range. So let's say a 40 year old man would have the test levels of 22 year old. This is why traditionally trt is for older men. The only younger ones you see damaged their endocrine system from using steroids. This is what you see from most examples in the UFC. Nothing wrong with it, but it's the truth.

    Steroids are not all the same. For example tren can make the user feel bad. Mental health stuff, high blood pressure, out of breath, acne, mood swings, lack of sleep. Basically all body builders use this but a terrible choice for athletes.

    The most common dose and drug would be using testosterone from 350 to 800 mgs a week. This makes you feel amazing. More energery, positive outlook, more stamina, huge sex drive, amazing workouts. This is the drug that most people try and go " damn, I could get used to that " . Of course their can be side effects. That also depends on the person and their knowledge of how to avoid them. That, and different drugs effect everyone differently.

    So my point being you could take 10 steroid users and get a mixed bag of results and effects. Steroid can't be a blanket term. When you break it down some can be very beneficial and feel nice. Others ruin people's lives on some occasions
     
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  3. wufabufa

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    Isn't @Eusung the guy with already really high natty test levels who kept making threads about trying to get on TRT?
     
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    Anavar - You will feel fitter and energetic and gain lean muscle but not really bulk up. You will lose most of your gains if you don't have a testosterone base.

    Testosterone - You'll feel good provided you stay in safe ranges, far more energy and you'll gain quite well if your diet and training are good.

    Dianabol - You will gain faster than nearly anything else I can mention. You will feel sluggish, your muscle pumps while working out will be painful and if you don't do it with a testosterone base you'll most likely lose 70% of what you gain in the months after you stop using it.

    Trenbolone - Your mental health will be a mess, you will sweat like nobodies business, get ready to change your bed sheets each night. You will gain huge amounts of muscle and strength in a very quick time. Your cardio will die completely and you'll hate the idea of stairs. If you're an aggressive person normally stay away from Tren as you will find it harder to control yourself. It has also never actually been made for human use.

    Turinabol - Similar to Anavar but with more bulking. You may feel sluggish and depressed on Turinabol and much like anavar you will lose your gains if you don't have a testosterone base.

    All these things can effect your mental health as they will effect your hormones. There are so many different types of steroids available but using illegal ones you run the risk of contaminated gear. If you aren't prescribed them by your doctor and you have your heart set on using them at least consult with your doctor first.

    Note - I have never used steroids, but I research them quite a lot as a hobby.
     
  5. Eusung

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    Very informative, thanks!
     
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    Fixed
     
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    Is testosterone cream applied to the body safe and ok for males over 40?
     
  8. Woldog

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    Depends on what you're using it for. Testosterone cream has a very specific uses and should only be used if prescribed by a doctor, over the counter testosterone cream is most likely just throwing your money away.
     
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    Dana white said testosterone make you feel like you are superman. But you will feel like lois lane when you stop taking them.
     
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    This is pretty much right. I'm 47, on TRT and occasionally throw in a month or two of proviron or anavar. The difference can definitely be felt. You will get stronger. I average about 15-20% + on most of the basic lifts in the gym while on the gear. Assuming you're eating a basically good diet, enough protein, etc.. you'll get more vascular, more definition in the muscles, and your sex drive will be increased.

    Once you are off the orals like anavar , you'll lose your vascularity and hardened look, gain a bit of water weight and strength will decrease. However, you'll still be a few % stronger than you were before you did them if you keep up your training.

    On a TRT dose of Test cypionate, you can still make good gains, progress in your lifts and look good. The steroids like anavar just take it up a notch. It does come with a cost, your lipids will be hit hard, think HDL cut by 50% or more , liver enzymes could also be elevated.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    People who complain of their dick not working on anavar generally go far over the recommended dosages as well.
     
  12. HAWTRIDDUM

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    There is alot of factors at play.

    You have to understand that different compounds will effect some people differently than others.

    Some men have naturally high testosterone, while some have high estrogen, high prolactin, ect.

    A compound that aromatizes easily like dianabol will have more negative effects on someone who is susceptible to having high estrogen.

    A person who has naturally high prolactin levels will have more prolactin related side effects using 19-nor compounds like deca or tren, both compounds that raise prolactin.

    I know some men who feel like garbage on an hrt dosage of testosterone, but feel great on masteron instead so they use that as their hrt compound instead. Some have added 25mg of proviron per day along with their trt and it made them feel ten times better.

    The reason why lifters don't just use hrt is because different compounds have different effects.

    Are you going to get the same strength gains from an hrt dosage of testosterone that you will get from 100 mg of anadrol per day? Lol absolutely not.

    Certain lifters have certain goals, and will generally use the compounds that they feel will help them achieve their goals.
     
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  13. Travis17

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    Doesn't taking testosterone shut off your natural production of testosterone? I know I've read it several times. You can't just go on TRT or take testosterone because your balls will stop producing it, and you'll need to be on it for the rest of your life.
     
  14. Woldog

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    Yes and no. It shuts down production of your natural test production but if you do it smartly and have a solid PCT you minimize the chances of permanent shutdown. The problem is when people abuse it, or have no idea what a PCT is and then they run into issues where they have permanently damaged the HPTA system and their body won't recover natural production.
     
  15. steroid-doc

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    99.9% of anavar is dbol , I have tested about 40 different kinds of anavar over the past few years and none of it was real .

    On steroids you will feel exactly the same as you did when you where 18 years old , fairly horny , but nothing else , if someone gave you any kinds of steroids without you knowing you wouldn't be able to tell the difference .

    The only drugs where you know your on something is clen ( because your on the verge of a heart attack all day )

    Letrozole makes you feel pretty bad

    T5's jitters

    any gh/ghrelin secretagogues will make you extremely hungry.
     
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    Clenbuterol use was rampant at the 1988 Olympics -- the last games before the fall of communism. Not only was there no test, it wasn't even banned.

    I can only comment on cycling; T4 + Clen was pretty popular a few years ago as a way to drop 5 pounds before the TdF. Not coincidentally, there are a couple of heart related deaths each year in cycling. I mean who woldn't expect heart failure in 23 yr old guy at the peak of aerobic conditioning.
     
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    yup, my point was out of all the drugs ive had for performance enhancing clen is the only one where I would notice the difference and probaby go to A&E someone could stic 3-4 gramms of test in me and I wouldnt feel much difference apart form having a sore knob.
     
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  18. biscuitsbrah

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    Damn that’s strange. Apart from the obvious gains I feel like if I was dosed test without knowing I would feel like something was different. I’ve never taken roids before but I’d like to think I’d definitely be able to tell
     
  19. Woldog

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    Yeah they usually use 5mg of dbol and just label it as Anavar or Turinbol lmao, people then wonder why they're taking 40mg of "anavar" and developing gyno.
     
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    I have had about 30 'pro trainers' and PT trying to sell me anavar showing me Mr Universe female competitors as validation thats its real anavar.

    me "she looks like a man"
    PT "yeah but shes really good"
    me "Anavar doesnt do that , Dbol does though"
    PT "its deffo real anavar'

    me "send me one tablet sample and if it tests real ill pay triple"
    PT "I dont work that way
     
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