What was the gameplan Chuck was supposed to follow when he fought Rampage in Pride?

[gono btw]

Nog was incredible but a far less dangerous matcu up than going toe to toe with Prime Hunt and Cop.

All 3 represented different dangers, none was less dangerous than the other.
Legacy-wise, Nog is realistically ahead of them.

But chucks division had nobody. Aside from Tito and randy, his biggest threat was banal. Who after that? Jeremy horn?

So really, chuck beat two guys at lhw worth a damn.

Horn was legit, tho... For instance, he beat Lister who had a close fight vs Arona... Was also one of the very few who almost subbed Babalu...No small feat...

 

[djacobox372]

He beat overeem, he beat vitor, he beat randleman

Overeem was a horrible LHW, as was Randleman.

 

[GOAT.]

All 3 represented different dangers, none was less dangerous than the other.
Legacy-wise, Nog is realistically ahead of both

Legacy or not Hendo knew he had no business going toe to toe with Prime Hunt and Cop in 2003-2004

As great as Nog was, he was still a far safer style March up for Hendo.

 

[wlu.29]

Overeem was a horrible LHW, as was Randleman.

Disagree

 

[MartinGibson86]

Another post lost to the re-direct Gods


I love Sherdog

 

[MartinGibson86]

Insert Keith Sardine beating Liddell to counter.

Or Tito handling Wand...


....or Vitor blowing Wand away

 

[ocfightfan]

Be Chuck.

 

[MartinGibson86]

Ah, mma math…….

Wanderlei faced plenty of top 205 guys, especially considering Pride had the plethora of lightheavy talent during that time period.

If you’re going to keep bringing up guys like Leben, should I bring up Rashad Evans? See how that works?

I don't see how that works at all lol.

Rashad was 10x the fighter of Leben and woulda easily beat Wand.

 

[Shaddows]

Chuck beat more guys that were real 205

Tito
Randy
Overeem
Belfort
Babalu
Randleman


Wanderlei beat two guys that were true 205

Guy mezger
Rampage

He's credited with beating Sakuraba but we all know he was way smaller, sure Wanderlei gets credited for fighting mirko and hunt but I'm talking about in division top fights

Wanderlei was able to avoid shogun, overrem, Lil nog and got gifted a win to Arona

I sense a lot of hate from you... it's blinding you.

 

[wlu.29]

I sense a lot of hate from you... it's blinding you.

Im objective

 

[gono btw]

Overeem was a horrible LHW, as was Randleman.

In terms of pure skill set, LHW Reem was arguably the most skilled fighter ever.

Meanwhile, Monster was inconsistent, sure, but could win against anyone on any given night.

Legacy or not Hendo knew he had no business going toe to toe with Prime Hunt and Cop in 2003-2004

As great as Nog was, he was still a far safer style March up for Hendo.

Meh, I dont get your narrative.

Both are universally acknowledged as OW OGs.
No duckers there, they´re both from the ol´school.

 

[Shaddows]

Im objective

not really.

 

[MyFavSport]

The gameplan was for Dana to say he didn't stick to the gameplan so Dana/UFC could have a safety net to claim chuck was the better fighter just didn't fight smart

 

[Adamant]

PRIDE Wand would murder UFC Wand. It would be an annihilation of biblical proportions. PRIDE Wand also murders Chuck.

 

[wlu.29]

not really.

Ive listed reasons for my case you have not

 

[wlu.29]

PRIDE Wand would murder UFC Wand. It would be an annihilation of biblical proportions. PRIDE Wand also murders Chuck.

Because of steroids?

 

[kingmob6]

Didn't Wanderlei win like 18 in a row for a stretch? Chucky never done anything like that. Prime Wand was a terror.

 

[Shaddows]

Ive listed reasons for my case you have not

not really good reasons.

Chuck got schooled by Rampage.
Wandi did that to Rampage.

That was, obviously, before he fought Hunt and Cro Cop (and Hendo).
He was never the same after that.
that much was obvious to anyone not biased against him.

 

[wlu.29]

not really good reasons.

Chuck got schooled by Rampage.
Wandi did that to Rampage.

That was, obviously, before he fought Hunt and Cro Cop (and Hendo).
He was never the same after that.
that much was obvious to anyone not biased against him.

Wanderlei lost to tito and vitor before he faced cro cop or hunt

Chuck beat both of those guys

So in terms of commom opponents chuck 2-wanderlei 1

 

[Shaddows]

Wanderlei lost to tito and vitor before he faced cro cop or hunt

Chuck beat both of those guys

So in terms of commom opponents chuck 2-wanderlei 1

yes, at the very begining of his career.
you must be joking if you want to claim that that was the same Wanderlei throughout his career.

With your rationale, Jeremy Horn must be the GOAT...