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I'm being serious here

Diaz/cmg at 170
Frankie/aldo for 145 interim, with the winner facing cmg later "down the line." I really don't understand any of this. What's the point of interim and why would Frankie or Aldo even agree. Why not make it a #1 contender fight.

Why is Diaz/cmg at 170 and not 155?

The UFC has completely lost me on this.

Please help a LONG time fan understand this.
 
If somebody gives a reasonable answer let me know because I am scratching my head as well
 
Short answer: Money
Long answer: Lots and lots of Money.
 
hitman911 said:
I'm being serious here

Diaz/cmg at 170
Frankie/aldo for 145 interim, with the winner facing cmg later "down the line." I really don't understand any of this. What's the point of interim and why would Frankie or Aldo even agree. Why not make it a #1 contender fight.

Why is Diaz/cmg at 170 and not 155?

The UFC has completely lost me on this.

Please help a LONG time fan understand this.
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Because it's nothing but a money grab fight.

Mind you, it's not set, but I think it's likely to happen.

It's a money fight, and if (WHEN) Cloner loses, there is a built in "excuse" due to the weight...

...because seriously, at 170 he would get MURKED by the elite fighters there.

...then he can return to 155 and "start over".
 
McCoke must've told to ufc that he can't drop to 145 anymore, and ufc doesn't want to officially cut him out of the division yet
 
I wouldn't mind a Kimbo vs DADA 5000 rematch either because it was just as competitive as the first Diaz vs McTapper fight
 
The Big Bang said:
Because it's nothing but a money grab fight.

Mind you, it's not set, but I think it's likely to happen.

It's a money fight, and if (WHEN) Cloner loses, there is a built in "excuse" due to the weight...

...because seriously, at 170 he would get MURKED by the elite fighters there.

...then he can return to 155 and "start over".
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This/thread.
 
whats up with frankie/aldo for the interim? Thats not a money fight at all, and in my opinion, makes less sense than diaz/cmg at 170. Whats the point of the interim tag?
 
makes no sense for MMA but all the sense in the world for the UFC. They can still market Conor has a champion at FW while also bringing in the casuals again for the Diaz/Mcgregor rematch. Its still a blatant fuck you to MMA fans though.
 
I didn't think the UFC could annoy me anymore, I thought I'd experienced every piece of bullshit possible but somehow they manage to outdo themselves.
 
hitman911 said:
I'm being serious here

Diaz/cmg at 170
Frankie/aldo for 145 interim, with the winner facing cmg later "down the line." I really don't understand any of this. What's the point of interim and why would Frankie or Aldo even agree. Why not make it a #1 contender fight.

Why is Diaz/cmg at 170 and not 155?

The UFC has completely lost me on this.

Please help a LONG time fan understand this.
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Conor wanted it at 170.
He wants to even out for that loss and if he beat Diaz at 155 then people would say "but it was not at 170".

I am guessing Aldo/Edgar/Interim is in case Conor never goes back to 145
 
What Conor wants, Conor gets.


Duh





Also, we have to shut up that annoying Edgar guy, feed him to Aldo.
 
Aldo X Frankie
Interim title created so they can sell it as a title fight and make it a 5 rounder

Conor X Diaz
It's at 170 because Conor calls the shots, that was the weight of the first fight and the first fight is what he's attempting to avenge/erase, it also removes the argument of "Oh, if it was at 170 again Diaz would kill him again" if Conor were to have won the upcoming rematch at a different weight.
 
Silliness. Zero reason for McGregor vs Diaz to be at 170. Should be at 155er. And given that it's not - and Conor is fighting at 170lb again, the Aldo/Edgar match should be for the FW title - strip Conor.
 
hitman911 said:
why would Frankie or Aldo even agree
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Because nobody is entitled to a shot, the UFC can give it to whomever they want. And if Aldo and Frankie didn't accept the deal then Holloway gets the shot.

After that McGregor possibly fights for the LW strap, or take other silly fights at whatever weight class but FW and it could be a year or two from now before either Frankie or Aldo get the chance to fight him, if ever.

The UFC has a proven track record of keeping their fighters by the balls.
 
hitman911 said:
I'm being serious here

Diaz/cmg at 170
Frankie/aldo for 145 interim, with the winner facing cmg later "down the line." I really don't understand any of this. What's the point of interim and why would Frankie or Aldo even agree. Why not make it a #1 contender fight.

Why is Diaz/cmg at 170 and not 155?

The UFC has completely lost me on this.

Please help a LONG time fan understand this.
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The answer is implications and situations. Frankie edgar and jose aldo are dying for that title shot, however, neither one of them know whos next. On top of that, they dont only want the title they want mcgregor. Knowing mcgregor is on his way out of the division they know its likely only one of them will get a crack at mcgregor. Sealing that position is a must for both of them. If mcgregor does not return which is also a possibility then the winner will inherit the undisputed title.

As for Mcgregor vs Diaz 2 being at 170 its for nostalgia and implications. The ufc wants to build stars and mcgregor and diaz are making star moves at the moment. Moving up one weight class to fight someone who doesnt even have the title doesnt mean much. Moving up two weight classes to fight someone who doesnt have the title is more impressive. With rumors of gsp returning, the winner is setup in a high profile match against gsp as well as gaining fan credibility to leap frog everybody to take on dos anjos. Doesnt matter what weight class you refer them too, if they are fighting at 170 its a welterweight fight plain and simple and the ufc will treat it as such
 
There is no answer more serious than money
People need to get over their martial art honor fantasies and realize this is prize fighting, plain and simple
 
If McGregor wins, he's done at 145 and the Aldo/Edgar winner gets promoted to undisputed. If Conor loses, he goes back to FW as the champ.

However, it's hard for me to envision McGregor giving up a championship in one division without holding another one, as well. My guess is he is about 80% lock at being done with FW, though. This is the UFC, where the rules are made up, and the points don't matter...
 
hitman911 said:
I'm being serious here

Diaz/cmg at 170
Frankie/aldo for 145 interim, with the winner facing cmg later "down the line." I really don't understand any of this. What's the point of interim and why would Frankie or Aldo even agree. Why not make it a #1 contender fight.

Why is Diaz/cmg at 170 and not 155?

The UFC has completely lost me on this.

Please help a LONG time fan understand this.
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It's because they aren't quite ready to have McG vacate the belt, but they also aren't 100% sure that he will be able to defend the 145 in the future, it all depends on how this rematch goes. They probably have numerous possible big plans if he wins the rematch (conor vs GSP, Conor vs RDA for the belt, Conor vs Cerrone at 170, etc). This way, he is halfway giving up the title, so to speak, by allowing the interim 145 title between Frankie and Aldo. The division won't be held up, and if Conor does end up coming back to 145, they have a champ vs champ match to sell regardless of whether it's Aldo or Frankie. If he doesn't come back to 145, the interim champ becomes real champ and the division moves on.

This sounds like the best possible option for everyone, shy of having him just fully vacate now, but it's understandable that they/he aren't 100% sure of how to proceed.
 
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