UFN 94 - Johnson vs Poirier - Texas

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We are getting a gift with MJ +305 ITD.

I haven't researched this fight and i know Poirier only has one KO loss, and at LW he has been fine so maybe it was the weight cut. But im sure i remember him being wobbled in a few fights. I know Akira had him wobbled but im sure there were a few other occasions or am i talking crap?
 
I watched tape on the main event, Dustin leaves himself too open for my liking. I'll be betting on main event ITD. Early KO for either guy or Johnson gasses and gets tkod/subbed late
 
I haven't researched this fight and i know Poirier only has one KO loss, and at LW he has been fine so maybe it was the weight cut. But im sure i remember him being wobbled in a few fights. I know Akira had him wobbled but im sure there were a few other occasions or am i talking crap?
Duffy rocked him
 
everyone tags him, he's open to being hit and he won't be able to take the fight to the ground like he did against duffy (duffy has suspect takedown defence). i really favour johnson here.
 
everyone tags him, he's open to being hit and he won't be able to take the fight to the ground like he did against duffy (duffy has suspect takedown defence). i really favour johnson here.
Johnson better get that early KO. He fades in 3 rd fights. With Dustin's pace he's fucked here if it goes to the champ rounds
 
Yeah i was going to say why are you looking to lb hall after r1. Except for the mous fight its not like he starts slow and comes on strong like belal for example
He did in the Whittaker fight too. Not Belal level of shifting gears (even though Jouban gassing seemed to me contribute to that) but in the first round he did literally nothing. By round 3 he was going for it and landing a good amount of hard shots. Halls just a notoriously patient fighter who is content letting the clock run to find his rhythm, even if it means running the risk of ending up in a staring contest
 
I really like the over 2.5 for the Johnson/Poirier fight, and a decent chance it's going the distance. Poirier has 8 finishes since 2011, 2nd most in the UFC in that span which is impressive. But Johnson has never been KO'd but has quite a few subs losses on his record(Johnson was dropped by Danny Castillo though). Johnson has not KO'D anyone since 2013 and I think Poirier will have a hard time taking down Johnson as Johnson has a good takedown base, so this fight will mostly be a stand up fight. This will only be the 2nd time both fighters are in a 5 round fight. The first time both had a 5 round fight, both Johnson and Poirier were finished in round 4, a 2009 lose for Johnson and 2012 lose for Poirier and both by sub. I think this being the second 5 round fight for both being a cautious start for both, which is why I have confident in the over2.5 for that match. I also have Poirier taking this one.
 
We are getting a gift with MJ +305 ITD.

Agreed, I hit it last night for 0.5u. I have a hard time seeing him winning a decision here and as others have stated, DP is hittable.
 
Johnson better get that early KO. He fades in 3 rd fights. With Dustin's pace he's fucked here if it goes to the champ rounds
Johnson hasn't KO'D anyone since 2013 and hasn't looked the greatest in his last few outings. Johnson seems to be on the down at this moment while Dustin is on the up and a has a nice little streaking going while looking like a different fighter since the KO lost to Conor.
 
Just watching the Dustin Duffy fight again. Duffy hit him with 3 big shots flush in the first round and Dustin didn't even look wobbled. I actually think Dustin has a great chin, you can't say it's bad just because Conor caught him behind the ear
 
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Agreed, I hit it last night for 0.5u. I have a hard time seeing him winning a decision here and as others have stated, DP is hittable.
He sure is but not as bad as people are making it out to seem and he only has one KO on his record, to the hardest hitter in the 145 division in Conor. so while I agree that Johnson getting the KO is his most likely outcome for him to win this, I don't see it happening and Dustin taking over after round 2.
 
Johnson hasn't KO'D anyone since 2013 and hasn't looked the greatest in his last few outings. Johnson seems to be on the down at this moment while Dustin is on the up and a has a nice little streaking going while looking like a different fighter since the KO lost to Conor.

Yes, MJ looked bad against Nate, but he arguably beat Dariush. You have to take into consideration the level of competition as well. MJ's last 3 opponents have been some of the top guys in the division. I'm not saying DP has been fighting cans at 155, but his competition hasn't been the same level as MJ's.
 
Now I'm watching Cub vs Dustin and surprise surprise Dustin was hit flush with a big shot in the first round. Definitely a really hittable fighter
 
Yes, MJ looked bad against Nate, but he arguably beat Dariush. You have to take into consideration the level of competition as well. MJ's last 3 opponents have been some of the top guys in the division. I'm not saying DP has been fighting cans at 155, but his competition hasn't been the same level as MJ's.
Well the last 3 opponents for Poirier has been some pretty good competition I would say, even thought Johnson does hold the edge in fighting better fighters for the most part. But he destroyed Bobby Green, who I thought was a good prospect before he had that long lay off from injury. He put it on Duffy when Duffy was peaking and was highly talked about. and he destroyed Yancy Medeiros, who greatly impressed me last Saturday.
 
He did in the Whittaker fight too. Not Belal level of shifting gears (even though Jouban gassing seemed to me contribute to that) but in the first round he did literally nothing. By round 3 he was going for it and landing a good amount of hard shots. Halls just a notoriously patient fighter who is content letting the clock run to find his rhythm, even if it means running the risk of ending up in a staring contest

Yeah that's true i didn't watch that until last night. He still got out worked and lost r3 tho.
 
Yeah that's true i didn't watch that until last night. He still got out worked and lost r3 tho.
Yeah that third round is what really made me decide i'd switch sides if I can get Brunson at -140 or better at some point. One thing to have a hard time dealing with pressure, Hall was straight up turning his back like a scared novice.

Just throwing this out there, but other factors that would make me want to lb Hall after round 1 or at least hedge: Brunson goes for the kill and doesn't get it (he slowed down pretty noticeably in the Yoel fight so can't trust him to recover from a big burst), Brunson struggles to get takedowns, and/or Hall lands hard body kicks which Brunson's upright stance is just asking him to do.
 
Dustin knows MJ has the speed advantage. He's going to need to get it dirty in there and put on a high pace until he can slow him down a bit to catch him even if that means he has to eat a couple punches to dish out his own. Dustin does have underrated footwork I might add. He transitions his feet well when he moves forward and pressures. He knows how to cut off the cage, and corner you so he can tee off/press for TDs once he puts you up against the fence. But like a double edged sword, his footwork also leads him to get hit quite a bit cuz it's the price you pay for the aggression and pace he wants HIS fight to be in. He's banking on being grittier than you. Dustin as Conor said, comes to fight, so you gotta expect to trade shots with the guy.

Except MJ has an in and out style so he might be able to quickly get off his shots and dip out. But as most MJ fights, he can't keep that same speed for all 3, let alone 5 rounds. He got caught staring at his work against Dariush and Nate. Dariush was landing right handed jabs all night and then Benny finally mixed in a shovel uppercut that changed that entire fight. But before that, MJ was cutting angles and moving his feet like a pro.

It'll take one mistake for MJ to get viciously GnP'd and possibly get his neck snatched by Poirier. It's a tricky fight to bet on because you need it to unfold first before figuring out how it's gonna go. I favor MJ early when he's fresh but Poirier late cuz he needs just that 1 takedown to take MJ out of his game.

I'm in the business of making money, so I'm always leaning towards picking the dog in certain match ups but I'm weary of either guy here. If odds were even I'd take Dustin in a -- 5 round fight -- but there's no value in my eyes at -165 so MJ could be the play. I think in a live bet situation you gotta look for who's putting who on the backfoot. MJ despite having an in and out style, also knows how to pressure you but keep disciplined. Imagine if MJ had a good ground game, he'd be one of the best fighters right now. MJ also doesn't sit on his punches when he's the one getting off first, his KO's are from people over extending and getting countered.

What a fun fight. The W is up for grabs for either man. I usually side with the guy with the better ground game but I don't want to lay the juice because I find myself on a bunch of favorites on this card. And I'm sure as fuck ain't trusting my money on any Latin fighters.
 
i like 6 overs here.
(current prices)

brown-hall O2.5 -160 - hall gunshy all the time, brunson likely to try to wrestle his way to a 15 min win

glenn-dunham O2.5 -175 - dunham is gonna ride glenn in all likelihood, and while glenn is short notice up a weightclass, he wont' be outssized and is durable

robertson-carneiro O2.5 -140 - both grappling based fighters, carneiro more decorated but robertson never been subbed

makhachev-wade O2.5 -235 - ok, this one's steep.. way better when it was -180.. but c'mon, we all think this is going 3.

muhammad-a.montano O2.5 -170 - muhammad is a decision machine. just look at his record. even when he turns it up he doesn't know how to sit down on his strikes and put someone away. montano bros are tough.

brown-e.montano O1.5 -145 - how is this one O1.5? and how'd the price shift down to here? brown is still green (lol that sounds weird) -- yes, he had finishes against regional guys but he doesn't look like he knows how to seal the deal at the ufc level to me. again, montano bros are tough.
 
And I'm sure as fuck ain't trusting my money on any Latin fighters.
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