Critique My Deadlift Form Please

Well, no, the offer isn't still open, as I revoked it a few pages ago.

I like how you've just automatically assumed I have no martial arts training. We're on an MMA forum, remember? How do you think I initially arrived here

haha your good at getting another response out of me I'll give you that. I know because you've never left the S&C forum for posting. You seem to think mowing grass full time is harder then 6-8 hours of maxing your heart rate out, while dealing with the stress's of MMA (punching kicking wrestling submissions). And unless you 250lbs and solid muscle. Your not deadlifting 600+lbs while training MMA. Unless your on gear.

but hey, come on down and prove me wrong lol. If you get past the girls you can try me. If you get past me congratz. Still doesn't make you right about any of the topics we debated.

K, Im out.
 
I bet this never happens

Would it really be that surprising to see a post of someone approaching a 400 lbs deadlift though? Pretty early into my lifting I dropped from 190 lbs to 155 lbs in 3 months while hitting a shitload of cardio PRs and I could still pull 405 lbs fairly easily.
 
Would it really be that surprising to see a post of someone approaching a 400 lbs deadlift though? Pretty early into my lifting I dropped from 190 lbs to 155 lbs in 3 months while hitting a shitload of cardio PRs and I could still pull 405 lbs fairly easily.
With this individual i would be surprised. He already has his intense rolling schedule lined up as an excuse.
 
haha your good at getting another response out of me I'll give you that. I know because you've never left the S&C forum for posting. You seem to think mowing grass full time is harder then 6-8 hours of maxing your heart rate out, while dealing with the stress's of MMA (punching kicking wrestling submissions). And unless you 250lbs and solid muscle. Your not deadlifting 600+lbs while training MMA. Unless your on gear.

but hey, come on down and prove me wrong lol. If you get past the girls you can try me. If you get past me congratz. Still doesn't make you right about any of the topics we debated.

K, Im out.

You're legitimately such a massive pussy. Holy shit.
 
I literally loled at the idea of a 400 lbs deadlift shutting Jim up.
To be fair, Jim wouldn't shut up if you pulled 1400lbs. He has opinions and will state them no matter what lol.

PS, Jim. Nothing wrong with that, but maybe this guy doesn't know.
 
OP, I went to Shoe Carnival and found these:
2026690_Black_White_Red

They were almost half the price of Chuck's (on sale, USD$32.99) , and are almost completely flat on the bottom (the heel feels lower than the ball/toe after wearing normal tennis shoes for so long).

I wouldn't wear them out and about because the sole is so thin so they may not last long. Might help keep your hips a bit lower through the movement.
 
Maybe I misread the purpose of your post. It should. Since IMO at my bodyweight 400-maybe 450deadlift will be my max before it starts to negatively impact my mat time.

He's just a loser. I just wanted to get some points across so kids that don't know any better wouldn't get caught up in his bullshit.
LOL WUT?

I pulled 405 when I was a high school wrestler. I was putting in a lot more mat time than 6-8 hours a week, and I was cutting to compete at 153 lbs.

I later hit 500 while still training boxing/wrestling around 10 hours a week. It never negatively impacted my mat time. At most I spent about 3 hours a week in the weight room.
 
haha your good at getting another response out of me I'll give you that. I know because you've never left the S&C forum for posting. You seem to think mowing grass full time is harder then 6-8 hours of maxing your heart rate out, while dealing with the stress's of MMA (punching kicking wrestling submissions). And unless you 250lbs and solid muscle. Your not deadlifting 600+lbs while training MMA. Unless your on gear.

but hey, come on down and prove me wrong lol. If you get past the girls you can try me. If you get past me congratz. Still doesn't make you right about any of the topics we debated.

K, Im out.

I'm going to write an impartial response regarding wearing weightlifting shoes for deadlifting based on my own experience. I'm not taking anybody's side, just throwing my two cents in here.

I train weightlifting. Before that, I trained powerlifting. During the time I trained powerlifting, I would pull once or twice a week in my Chucks with a mixed grip or hook grip, but no straps.

Now, I only perform it once in a blue moon (not counting the other deadlift variations for accessory) with straps or a hook grip as a test of strength. Since I don't carry my Chucks in my gym bag anymore, I do them in my Adipowers. The most I ever pulled in my Adipowers was 515 lbs; 555 lbs with my Chucks.

The main difference between the two shoes is the height. My Adipowers have 3/4 inch inclined heels so obviously the ROM of the deadlift is increased and I need to tilt my back more to straighten it. The difference in height may seem negligible at a glance, but when it comes to pulling, I can feel an immense difference in the mechanics of the pull. There's more straining to keep my back from rounding and to cover the extra distance of the bar to lockout; in a nutshell, lifting in WL shoes is not the most ideal way to go about it.

Again, but that's just me. YMMV. Honestly, I think it'd be wise for you to open your mind and learn through trial and error instead of outright dismissing an idea. Really, that's how I learned to lift here in f13 over the years; I just picked up bits and pieces of other people's advice, tutorials, and suggestions (Thanks, @Urban ). I kept what worked for me; discarded what didn't.


Try lifting in Chucks and see how they fare compared to the WL shoes. If they suck, then stick with the latter. There's no need to get defensive and hostile here; it's just a forum.
 
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LOL WUT?

I pulled 405 when I was a high school wrestler. I was putting in a lot more mat time than 6-8 hours a week, and I was cutting to compete at 153 lbs.

I later hit 500 while still training boxing/wrestling around 10 hours a week. It never negatively impacted my mat time. At most I spent about 3 hours a week in the weight room.

No you fucking didn't, you narcissistic piece of shit.

I wonder what shit he'll think of to talk to you lol.
 
I know I'm coming in late to this party but

The second someone starts picking out grammar errors I know their giving up.

they're*

Also, all diddle lifts in video had your weight pitched too far forward, looking off balance, and having your hips too high up- something I'd think is a direct result of lifting in shoes with a heel. You'll probably find your deadlifts progress much better once you get a better set-up, and better progress in the deadlift means better strength, which means better wrasslin' for your punch-face escapades.

Signed,

A 145lb fighter who has pulled 465, but currently only 440.
 
Naw lol, I'm going to make an example out of him.

This thread has delivered on so many levels. Alright, actually only one level- the level of someone who is weak and totally uninformed about lifting freaking out and challenging people to fights when given basic and pretty much universally accepted information about lifting by far stronger and more knowledgeable people. But my god, the performance at this particular level...

And yet of all the absolute gold in the thread, this is maybe my favourite comment.
 
I'm going to write an impartial response regarding wearing weightlifting shoes for deadlifting based on my own experience. I'm not taking anybody's side, just throwing my two cents in here.

I train weightlifting. Before that, I trained powerlifting. During the time I trained powerlifting, I would pull once or twice a week in my Chucks with a mixed grip or hook grip, but no straps.

Now, I only perform it once in a blue moon (not counting the other deadlift variations for accessory) with straps or a hook grip as a test of strength. Since I don't carry my Chucks in my gym bag anymore, I do them in my Adipowers. The most I ever pulled in my Adipowers was 515 lbs; 555 lbs with my Chucks.

The main difference between the two shoes is the height. My Adipowers have 3/4 inch inclined heels so obviously the ROM of the deadlift is increased and I need to tilt my back more to straighten it. The difference in height may seem negligible at a glance, but when it comes to pulling, I can feel an immense difference in the mechanics of the pull. There's more straining to keep my back from rounding and to cover the extra distance of the bar to lockout; in a nutshell, lifting in WL shoes is not the most ideal way to go about it.

Again, but that's just me. YMMV. Honestly, I think it'd be wise for you to open your mind and learn through trial and error instead of outright dismissing an idea. Really, that's how I learned to lift here in f13 over the years; I just picked up bits and pieces of other people's advice, tutorials, and suggestions (Thanks, @Urban ). I kept what worked for me; discarded what didn't.


Try lifting in Chucks and see how they fare compared to the WL shoes. If they suck, then stick with the latter. There's no need to get defensive and hostile here; it's just a forum.


Thank you for a well written and respectful response. I have deadlifted barefoot. I do have flat type shoes. Honestly as this point I prefer my WL shoes. I just feel strong in them. I feel like I can really dig my legs into the ground at the start of the lift. I've listened to the guys. when the weights start getting heavier (2x BW) maybe it will cause problems. If it does I'll just take the shoes off...But honestly I think overall this well help. It will help cue into getting more leg drive with or without the shoes. And finally I'm really enjoying pulling in these shoes. It feels good and I'm going to take every advantage I can to keep forming this habit of lifting regularly and trying to get into shape.
 
I know I'm coming in late to this party but



they're*

Also, all diddle lifts in video had your weight pitched too far forward, looking off balance, and having your hips too high up- something I'd think is a direct result of lifting in shoes with a heel. You'll probably find your deadlifts progress much better once you get a better set-up, and better progress in the deadlift means better strength, which means better wrasslin' for your punch-face escapades.

Signed,

A 145lb fighter who has pulled 465, but currently only 440.

I deff think having the shoes on makes me have higher hips. Thats not necessarily a bad thing.

 
This thread has delivered on so many levels. Alright, actually only one level- the level of someone who is weak and totally uninformed about lifting freaking out and challenging people to fights when given basic and pretty much universally accepted information about lifting by far stronger and more knowledgeable people. But my god, the performance at this particular level...

And yet of all the absolute gold in the thread, this is maybe my favourite comment.

Yes I remember you as one of the elitist assholes too. Knowing and doing are not the same thing. I know a great deal...I havn't done a great deal. Thats been changing though. Rippetoe seems to not think its a big deal. Alot of people pulling 500+ lbs don't think its a big deal. Its only a big deal here because I decided to continue wearing them because I enjoy them and feel stronger in them against the advice of some people on here. Egos...
 
LOL WUT?

I pulled 405 when I was a high school wrestler. I was putting in a lot more mat time than 6-8 hours a week, and I was cutting to compete at 153 lbs.

I later hit 500 while still training boxing/wrestling around 10 hours a week. It never negatively impacted my mat time. At most I spent about 3 hours a week in the weight room.

I dont know your bodyweight and your leverages. Maybe you have crazy long arms and a short torso like Lamar Grant. Maybe your genetically more gifted then me and can recover more. Maybe you were on gear. Maybe you could have done better wrestling if you spent more time on the mat then lifting weights?

450DL would be BW x 2.5 DL for me. I think thats a reasonable assumption to think my deadlift will max out there before it I have to train it more therefore affecting my mat time and recovery. If I get to 450 and can continue to progress lifting once a week. I will, just a reasonable cap I put for an end game of where I'll end up.
 
Wow the dick waving in this thread. I pulled 400kg as a fetus while wearing Nanos.
 

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