UFN 109 - Gus vs GT - Sweden

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Tirimasuperman said:
You say that, but Demian Maia was a dog last week. Based on the little experience I have of MMA betting, it seems like they're much better on the small cards that we in theory should be able to rob easy than the big ones that everyone is watching
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It was a split decision though, one less misstake from Masvidal and the favorite could easily have won. Edgar/Rodriguez was way more off
 
weedreference said:
This is one of those fights where I come up with all sorts of technical and empirical reasoning, while takes EzFlyer takes the other side due to intangible factors... and I've learned the hard way that Ez is usually right when he feels really strongly about them.

That, and Musoke ain't a great striker himself. He is ultra left hand-focused, which isn't good against a south paw. There could be holes in his sub defense. This one is gonna be close, so I can see why people are snapping up the +money.
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AmericanBeauty said:
What's wrong about it?
It's ramadan and Mamed is fighting fasting and i still think he can win and the serbian dude is a bum.
Alexander will catch glover and put his lights out.
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ya if only betting was that easy =/

Musoke is coming off a 2 year layoff (injurie(s)) impossible to predict how he will look with all this ringrust..

and while i favor Gus to win he has never beaten anyone as good as Glover so the line on him is laughable imo.. all the value is on Glover

dont know anything abou that ksw fight so wont comment on that
 
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btw if anyone if looking to bet Glover his ml is +300 and dec +1000 :eek: on pokerstars/betstars
 
Tirimasuperman said:
I'm generally pretty knowledgeable about UFC fighters, but some of the fighters are virtual unknowns for me and a few of the odds straight up don't make sense based on what I do know so I was wondering if you guys could help me out.

Why is Darren Till so heavily favoured over Jessin Ayari? Till hasn't fought in a 1.5 years and his last fight was a draw with a guy who has been cut, while Ayari got a (boring ass) win in a split decision in a much more recent match

Shouldn't Held and Silva be bigger favourites?

Why is Camozzi a moderate favourite over Trevor Smith? I would've thought Smith's strengths match up perfectly with Camozzi's weaknesses, who when I've seen him hasn't looked great (the destroyer knees v Riggs aside)

I don't know either guys, but looking at records I can't understand why Pedro Muhoz is a HEAVY ass favourite against Damian Stasiak. Is he a perfect style match up, or is Munhoz's record not a true representation of his abilities?

Does anyone know anything about Oliver Enkamp?

Was Abdul Razak Alhassan terrifying before entering the UFC? It seems like the odds are stacked in his favour on the back of a win over a guy who wouldn't have been there if not for nepotism

Finally should Sobotta and Saunders really be at evens? Seems like Sobotta will have Saunders on his back the whole time, he's looked unstoppable in Germany (I recognise Sweden isn't Germany, but it's hardly Australia is it?)
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Till owned dalby for 2 rounds then fought round 3 with a separated shoulder
 
Tirimasuperman said:
I'm generally pretty knowledgeable about UFC fighters, but some of the fighters are virtual unknowns for me and a few of the odds straight up don't make sense based on what I do know so I was wondering if you guys could help me out.

Why is Darren Till so heavily favoured over Jessin Ayari? Till hasn't fought in a 1.5 years and his last fight was a draw with a guy who has been cut, while Ayari got a (boring ass) win in a split decision in a much more recent match

Shouldn't Held and Silva be bigger favourites?

Why is Camozzi a moderate favourite over Trevor Smith? I would've thought Smith's strengths match up perfectly with Camozzi's weaknesses, who when I've seen him hasn't looked great (the destroyer knees v Riggs aside)

I don't know either guys, but looking at records I can't understand why Pedro Muhoz is a HEAVY ass favourite against Damian Stasiak. Is he a perfect style match up, or is Munhoz's record not a true representation of his abilities?

Does anyone know anything about Oliver Enkamp?

Was Abdul Razak Alhassan terrifying before entering the UFC? It seems like the odds are stacked in his favour on the back of a win over a guy who wouldn't have been there if not for nepotism

Finally should Sobotta and Saunders really be at evens? Seems like Sobotta will have Saunders on his back the whole time, he's looked unstoppable in Germany (I recognise Sweden isn't Germany, but it's hardly Australia is it?)
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Till owned dalby for 2 rounds then fought round 3 with a separated shoulder
 
I've seen Bojan miss 6 straight punches and kicks in a row in the 3rd round against Aliev and ended up getting tackled to the floor.

He's always out of range and yet he's a 'range' fighter. I just think Bojan doesn't wanna throw down. He doesn't want to have that type of fight he rarely ever has opponent hurt. There's no danger factor with him he's content to keep you at the end of his punch and score points with leg kicks against a Swede in Sweden.

Watch Nico against anybody he's faced so far. He's got balls if you try to swarm him because he will always fire right back. Sakara was a weight class bigger and he rocked Musoke and tried to rush him and Musoke went hard after Sakara and rocked him back. Same for what he did against Kelvin everytime Kelvin thought he had him hurt with body kicks Nico would fire off 3-4 punches to to back Kelvin off.

Nico is gritty and he comes to fight. I got him dictating the entire fight. Even with the grappling which will be set up better by the strikes.
 
I am thoroughly unimpressed by Bojan. If it wasn't for Musoke's layoff, I think he'd be the absolute clear play. Hard to be confident with the long layoff though.
 
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Of course, there are plenty of examples of lead hands hurting people in opposite stance matchups, but it's far less common than rear hands doing so, which is why Musoke's lack of confidence in the right is a check in Bojan's column.
 
I saw some websites picking Enkamp so I did some research. and I saw the stare downs recently and he looks taller then Taleb, and looks like he might have more reach as well. He also has a karate base.

I found this fight and this highlight. He actually has a style similar to Wonderboy. He even showed a little ground game and locked up a sub. I didn't bet on Taleb or put him in any parlays, and now I am glad I didn't. I may hit Enkamp for a small bet now.


 
BigNick100 said:
I saw some websites picking Enkamp so I did some research. and I saw the stare downs recently and he looks taller then Taleb, and looks like he might have more reach as well. He also has a karate base.

I found this fight and this highlight. He actually has a style similar to Wonderboy. He even showed a little ground game and locked up a sub. I didn't bet on Taleb or put him in any parlays, and now I am glad I didn't. I may hit Enkamp for a small bet now.


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UFC.com says Taleb got 74 inch reach and Enkamp 77 inch
 
Fuck Till 6 pounds over. This is old school weigh ins in that there is no earlier weigh ins .
 
lol Till 176lb.

Maybe it helps to get a better line for Till
 
Alex Nicholson yelling "THIS IS SPARTA" at Hermansson, lol
 
Enkamp's face looks 14 years old, lol
Akhmedov a bit taller than Al-Hassan

Saunders only 168 lbs..
 
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