UFN 111 - Holm vs Correia - Singapore

[Joseph Budden]

rda claims that he weighs close to 200 pounds in-between fights

post usada dos anjos is delusional. 5'8" guys generally dont do well at 170 unless you have the natural frame to go with it like 5'9" woodley, hughes or hendricks who wrestled 165 in college

A lot of you guys made the mistake of not betting Hunt over dumb reasons like "he's old, he's suing UFC, etc." I hope these unproven usada claims and pics where rda doesn't look as chiseled (obviously he wouldn't) isn't a deterrent for anyone

 

[Stunna77]

A lot of you guys made the mistake of not betting Hunt over dumb reasons like "he's old, he's suing UFC, etc." I hope these unproven usada claims and pics where rda doesn't look as chiseled (obviously he wouldn't) isn't a deterrent for anyone

Heard he looked like he was off the sauce at weigh-ins. I currently have 3u on him with colby as a double, so hoping he didn't look awful. Waiting for the man, the myth, the legend @Card to get some weigh in photos up . Haven't seen any weigh-in coverage on sherdog yet.

 

[quincy k]

A lot of you guys made the mistake of not betting Hunt over dumb reasons like "he's old, he's suing UFC, etc." I hope these unproven usada claims and pics where rda doesn't look as chiseled (obviously he wouldn't) isn't a deterrent for anyone

i bet hunt ml, by ko and mark rounds 4 and 5. i have no idea who you were referring to.

imo, there is nothing to suggest that a 155 moving up in weight who is coming off two brutal beatdowns should be favored over a proven top 15 170.

dos anjos absorbed 200 punches in the ferguson fight after being kod against alvarez. tony also landed 50 percent of his strikes when he normally lands just 42 percent

to think these reasons for betting tarec, let alone laying a whopping -275 on rda, are "dumb" is just being ignorant

 

[Jae Gibbz]

Early weigh ins

 

[TimCoreCombat]

...the dog odds are playable...

I'm not sure I see a single one I like outside of doane.

 

[2bet]

Bethe Correia has this dorky aura around here... I can barely take her serious, seeing her act tough always makes me want to laugh

 

[Stunna77]

i bet hunt ml, by ko and mark rounds 4 and 5. i have no idea who you were referring to.

imo, there is nothing to suggest that a 155 moving up in weight who is coming off two brutal beatdowns should be favored over a proven top 15 170.

dos anjos absorbed 200 punches in the ferguson fight after being kod against alvarez. tony also landed 50 percent of his strikes when he normally lands just 42 percent

to think these reasons for betting tarec, let alone laying a whopping -275 on rda, are "dumb" is just being ignorant

Watch some tape, there is plenty of reasons why RDA should be favored. He is a pressure fighter who throws a ton of volume, Tarec likes to fight at range in space, RDA has a power advantage, ground advantage (even though tarec's tdd will most likely negate that).... And I certainly wouldn't label either of those fights "brutal beatdowns". RDA was putting it on Alverez before he got caught and the Ferg fight was very competetive, Ferg's pace was just too much in the later rounds.

 

[Joseph Budden]

i bet hunt ml, by ko and mark rounds 4 and 5. i have no idea who you were referring to.

imo, there is nothing to suggest that a 155 moving up in weight who is coming off two brutal beatdowns should be favored over a proven top 15 170.

dos anjos absorbed 200 punches in the ferguson fight after being kod against alvarez. tony also landed 50 percent of his strikes when he normally lands just 42 percent

to think these reasons for betting tarec, let alone laying a whopping -275 on rda, are "dumb" is just being ignorant

Nothing at you personally, just a lot of speculative and dumb capping stuff has been flying around. This rda looking different stuff is just as silly as the Hunt stuff last week. He's moving up, there's no evidence of steroid use, he just went a hard 5 rounds w ferg in elevation. It's just counter productive to cap the potential of him doing roids in the past when it's highly speculative w no real merit

Tony isn't Tarec, not even close, as far as your other points

 

[JDB]

Bethe Correia has this dorky aura around here... I can barely take her serious, seeing her act tough always makes me want to laugh

Dat ass tho.

A lot of you guys made the mistake of not betting Hunt over dumb reasons like "he's old, he's suing UFC, etc." I hope these unproven usada claims and pics where rda doesn't look as chiseled (obviously he wouldn't) isn't a deterrent for anyone

Dumb reasons my ass.

Half the MMA community has suspicions about RDA and have had since USADA.

 

[t6p]

Watch some tape, there is plenty of reasons why RDA should be favored. He is a pressure fighter who throws a ton of volume, Tarec likes to fight at range in space, RDA has a power advantage, ground advantage (even though tarec's tdd will most likely negate that).... And I certainly wouldn't label either of those fights "brutal beatdowns". RDA was putting it on Alverez before he got caught and the Ferg fight was very competetive, Ferg's pace was just too much in the later rounds.

I actually scored the fight 49-46 for Ferg, but I do feel like RDA looked better in the fight than a lot of people are giving him credit for. Ferg may be the best 155'er in the world right now so no shame in losing to him. Plus, this is a three rounder and RDA didn't have to cut nearly as much weight so cardio shouldn't be an issue here whatsoever.

All that said, I do like him to get it done against Saff, but I'm restraining from going big. I'd like to see how he looks in this new weight class before I fully trust him again.

 

[quincy k]

Watch some tape, there is plenty of reasons why RDA should be favored. He is a pressure fighter who throws a ton of volume, Tarec likes to fight at range in space, RDA has a power advantage, ground advantage (even though tarec's tdd will most likely negate that).... And I certainly wouldn't label either of those fights "brutal beatdowns". RDA was putting it on Alverez before he got caught and the Ferg fight was very competetive, Ferg's pace was just too much in the later rounds.

i didnt see fergs fight being as competitive as the scores suggested. i saw a guy who was convincingly outlanded in rounds 2-5. as for alvarez, rda was beat down. it wasnt a one punch ko. it must have been 20 signifigant strikes that rafael absorbed before the fight was stopped.

rda before alvarez and ferguson is the rightful favorite, even post usada, but not taking those fights into consideration is being negligent.

 

[EzFlyer]

prelims:

kim-pudilova
pudilova long and rangey.. looks pretty good. about the same as debut.
kim looks a bit soft.. not impressive..
they're really similarly sized.. kim awkward at staredown, lol..

de tomas-inoue
de tomas in at 131, and he doesn't look very good whatsoever.
inoue suuuper skinny, tall dude for the weight
inoue is 3+" taller

kwak-doane
doane looks pretty solid. same as usual.
kwak looks awesome. ripped 135.
doane slightly bigger overall, about 1-2" taller

camacho-jingliang
camacho not imposing.. doesn't look terrible, but i'm not sure why he's 170...
li looks excellent on the other hand..
li is definitely teh bigger dude. and 2-3" taller.

sasaki-scoggins
sasaki super skinny/tall as always for 125. but he looksi n shape.
scoggins looks solid, same as usual when he makes 125..
sasaki prolly like 3" taller, can't tell, they didn't get close

dy-caceres
dy looks pretty decent. no frame of reference.
caceres looks the same as always at 45. lean but normal.
caceres definitely looks bigger. hard to tell w/the fro etc. 2+" taller too

harris-asker
harris big and bulky 249. looks the same as usual. pants falling down as usual.
asker unimposing 245 as per usual. but both guys look as expected
they're really similarly sized.. harris declines handshake..

gomi-tuck
tuck looks awesome, as always. dude's shredded.
teal-haired gomi looks maybe a tiny bit better than a couple of his recent fights? but still not great
tuck is bigger. 2" taller.

main card:

RDA-saff
RDA looks pretty good.. bulkier than when 155...
saff looks excellent as always
saff is 3+" taller, definitely bigger.

covington-DHK
covington looks fantastic, as usual
DHK, likewise, looks great.
DHK is 2" taller. awkward kiss by colby..

tybura-AA
tybura looks ok. never looks great. 242
AA in at 243, and he looks the same as he has for a couple fights. both guys sporting a bit of a gut.
AA is 1" taller

holm-correia
betch looks fine.. same as always. stocky etc.
holm looks good, i guess? as expected
holm is 2" taller

 

[Joseph Budden]

Dat ass tho.



Dumb reasons my ass.

Half the MMA community has suspicions about RDA and have had since USADA.

Yeah, the retarded half of the MMA community where if your shoulder looks a bit less ripped under different lighting you were doing roids.

RDA looked great at weigh in. He went 5 rounds in elevation with Ferg. Dumbest fucking capping thought ever would be saying to yourself "RDA used to juice, gotta keep that in mind"

 

[Stunna77]

i didnt see fergs fight being as competitive as the scores suggested. i saw a guy who was convincingly outlanded in rounds 2-5. as for alvarez, rda was beat down. it wasnt a one punch ko. it must have been 20 signifigant strikes that rafael absorbed before the fight was stopped.

rda before alvarez and ferguson is the rightful favorite, even post usada, but not taking those fights into consideration is being negligent.

RDA's skills and stylistic advantages over Tarec didn't diminish because he lossed to two great fighters. Not sure I understand this line of thinking.

 

[quincy k]

Nothing at you personally, just a lot of speculative and dumb capping stuff has been flying around. This rda looking different stuff is just as silly as the Hunt stuff last week. He's moving up, there's no evidence of steroid use, he just went a hard 5 rounds w ferg in elevation. It's just counter productive to cap the potential of him doing roids in the past when it's highly speculative w no real merit

Tony isn't Tarec, not even close, as far as your other points

i taking into consideration that imo rda is not a walk around 200 pound 5'8" guy as he claims which tells me his mind set. hes not 200, hes max 185. fighters like cerrone, green and schaub have insinuatd rda ped use.

im betting saffediene because of rdas move up in weight, possible prior ped use and the fact that he is coming off two fights where he absorbed a lot of punishment that could have an effect on his fight with tarec

just a highlight film but rda had nothing for tony here. the fight wasnt close

 

[quincy k]

Yeah, the retarded half of the MMA community where if your shoulder looks a bit less ripped under different lighting you were doing roids.

RDA looked great at weigh in. He went 5 rounds in elevation with Ferg. Dumbest fucking capping thought ever would be saying to yourself "RDA used to juice, gotta keep that in mind"

rda is going to be signifigantly smaller than tarec on fight night.

 

[Joseph Budden]

i taking into consideration that imo rda is not a walk around 200 pound 5'8" guy as he claims which tells me his mind set. hes not 200, hes max 185. fighters like cerrone, green and schaub have insinuatd rda ped use.

im betting saffediene because of rdas move up in weight, possible prior ped use and the fact that he is coming off two fights where he absorbed a lot of punishment that could have an effect on his fight with tarec

just a highlight film but rda has nothing for tony here

These are just more assumptions though. Even media people like Patrick Wyman pointed out this week that RDA looks BIG in person when hes not cutting weight and he couldn't believe he made 155. Everyone carries weight differently.

Don't let me stop you from betting cause you're presuming RDA used to do roids, but yeah just my opinion thats a retarded thing to consider in your capping with zero proof

 

[Tebowned]

i taking into consideration that imo rda is not a walk around 200 pound 5'8" guy as he claims which tells me his mind set. hes not 200, hes max 185. fighters like cerrone, green and schaub have insinuatd rda ped use.

im betting saffediene because of rdas move up in weight, possible prior ped use and the fact that he is coming off two fights where he absorbed a lot of punishment that could have an effect on his fight with tarec

just a highlight film but rda had nothing for tony here. the fight wasnt close

Winning 1-2 rounds on everyone's scorecards is nothing? lol.

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/7431/Tony-Ferguson-vs-Rafael-dos-Anjos


Edit: Shit I was 205lbs at 5'6 a few months ago with a 4 pack lol.

 

[Joseph Budden]

rda is going to be signifigantly smaller than tarec on fight night.

This is true, and a factual and fair point, but doesn't really have anything to do with speculative roid use or a fight with Ferg who is a completely different fighter

 

[quincy k]

RDA's skills and stylistic advantages over Tarec didn't diminish because he lossed to two great fighters. Not sure I understand this line of thinking.

you dont think getting kod and absorbig 200 signifigant strikes in back-to-back fights can have an effect on a fighters next fight, moving up in weight class no less, against one of the best kickers in the game?

thats horrible