Mike Perry calls out actor

[MescalineDreams]

A lot of times, the best fighters are the most intelligent people with the most ability to think outside the box, to analyze every detail, etc..

Fighting steals your mind. Your intelligence through constant blows to the head. For that reason, it's not something everyone with that potential decides to do.

 

[Bearknuckle]

He may not be a punk but he also wouldn't fight Perry. Well...maybe he'd fight him in a striking only match? He may think he would have a chance with arbitrary rules thrown in. No way he'd fight him if Perry was allowed to grapple. We can make fun of Perry's lack of ground game, but that's vs UFC level fighters. Against a random guy like this, Perry would put him on his back within 2 seconds and proceed to beat him unconscious on the ground.

But...I guess you never know. Benji Radach got KO'd by a random guy that called him out so anything is possible.

In a real fight, MJW is twice mike perrys size. He’s not getting in the double leg. Takedowns arent some surprise anymore like ufc 1. Guys know its coming. And perry probably has too much pride and would think mjw is some scrub and try to get wild and Ko him. Ive seen mma fighters spar at gyms and they can be beaten. Especially in the standup. Now take away perrys takedown disadvantage because of the size, now he has to bang with a bigger guy.

 

[dammage]

I get your point, but it's different when "real bullets" are flying. I had friends who were black belts in TKD and karate and back when I was training I'd try to explain the difference. I had one actual sanctioned MMA fight (won by arm triangle in under 90 seconds) so even 10 years ago at my best I was literally WORLDS below the level Perry is at. And my friends who had been martial artists forever still had zero chance against me even just hard sparring. And it was even funnier when I'd roll with them.

Point is I don't know much about how legit MJW actually is, but however legit he is, an experienced professional fighter is a completely different animal. And we're talking about a legit UFC caliber guy. Perry has flaws, it's not like he's top 5 or even top 10 material, but he's beaten guys like Paul Felder and Brazilian Cowboy. I'll stand by the fact he'd straight up MAUL an untrained actor (even if that actor is a martial artist).

jay White seems to be legit , i dont know how his skill would measure in the Cage, but here´s a video of him sparring a ufc fighter and trainer. fighting is diffrent than sparring though, the added pressure in a real fight is a whole Another ball game.

 

[Bearknuckle]

Imagine mike perry back in the days laughing at Lyoto Machida as he was doing his Kata at the beach thinking its some mcdojo crap and then stepping up to Lyoto and getting crane kicked lmao.

Hell remember when Jake Ellengberger laughing at wonderbiy Then gets spinning kick knocked out...twice lol.

 

[Bearknuckle]

Yeh yet you didnt see any of the kyokushen used by gsp for some reason

And when dan henderson throws an H-bomb do we ever say “that isnt greco-roman wrestling”

 

[Bearknuckle]

Yes, UNTRAINED when it comes to actual fighting where in a one on one situation you can grapple. How is this guy going to stop a UFC level fighter from taking him down and smashing him on the ground?

By being a lot bigger and stronger. Have u ever wrestled? Size fucking matters, trust me i wreslted throughout high school. I nearly made it to state, size matters a lot when trying to get a guy to the ground.

 

[Drain Bamage]

A lot of people don't realize how many amazing fighters are out there that just never decide to compete

Because they aren't actually in the gym themselves and only know of fighting through a screen. There are some fucking savages out theres, even guys with the potential to be the best in the world but they decide to do other things.

It's like that in every art too. A lot of the time, some of the most elite minds, you've never heard of or seen.

Exactly. To 99% of people the though of fighting for a living never even crosses their mind.

 

[CerebralKnievel]

I get your point, but it's different when "real bullets" are flying. I had friends who were black belts in TKD and karate and back when I was training I'd try to explain the difference. I had one actual sanctioned MMA fight (won by arm triangle in under 90 seconds) so even 10 years ago at my best I was literally WORLDS below the level Perry is at. And my friends who had been martial artists forever still had zero chance against me even just hard sparring. And it was even funnier when I'd roll with them.

Point is I don't know much about how legit MJW actually is, but however legit he is, an experienced professional fighter is a completely different animal. And we're talking about a legit UFC caliber guy. Perry has flaws, it's not like he's top 5 or even top 10 material, but he's beaten guys like Paul Felder and Brazilian Cowboy. I'll stand by the fact he'd straight up MAUL an untrained actor (even if that actor is a martial artist).

Agree with all of your points save the last. Simply because Michael J White hasn't competed in some sort of MMA or whatnot that you or I are aware of doesnt mean he isnt a dangerous and well experienced combatant. Plenty of people out there spend their lives training 4 to 5 days per week yet never compete professionally.

I dont know how effective MJW's physical skills would translate in a sanctioned fight, but he is a pretty phenomenal martial arts practitioner and choreographer, so it certainly isnt far fetched to assume he could hold his own. He doesn't exactly have to spend his life working at a grocery store. The guy undoubtedly spends much of his life training various disciplines. Maybe he's got a lightning fast double leg takedown. ;D

 

[Bearknuckle]

A lot of people don't realize how many amazing fighters are out there that just never decide to compete

Because they aren't actually in the gym themselves and only know of fighting through a screen. There are some fucking savages out theres, even guys with the potential to be the best in the world but they decide to do other things.

It's like that in every art too. A lot of the time, some of the most elite minds, you've never heard of or seen.

Great post. It does apply to every art. My neighbor growing up could rap 10x better than Jay-Z, i swear he use to rap about everything freestyle way better than anything ive heard from most of these top level rappers. But he never had the drive to do it. He could ghost write for rappers and make tons of money.

 

[fedgrocky]

i think that the point that most of u are missing is that being a great martial artist isnt the same as being a great fighter,a good example is nick rodriguez in grappling(the guy that beat rockhold for those who only follow mma),he has been doing jiu jitsu for less than 5 years and he is beating a bunch of black belts,does that mean that he knows more jiu jitsu than them ou ir more qualified to teach?no,what it means is that he is Strong,young,in his prime,knows what Works better,has a bunch of tricks,probably some very recente new ones and is more active than this old black belts.am i saying that mike perry is nick rodriguez?no,but it is the same concept,if you want someone to teach you martial arts,probably Michael jai White would be a better option,but to think that in a street fight mike wouldnt win is crazy,he is faster,stronger,is way more active in real fights,probably has taken more shots and knows how to deal with them,has a better gas tank and has more experience in open fights like that(all martial arts allowed),mike would beat the living shit out of Michael jai white

 

[Fatality]

My money is on the actor. I don't like Perry and consider him a bum.

 

[Guan Di]

Theres martial artists youve never heard of that are beacons of knowledge and wisdom who've never competed. Many of the elite minds In many sports or arts for that matter are behind the scenes.

This idea that you need to be actively competing to speak on these things is just purely nonsense

MJW knows more about martial arts and fighting on a deeper level than Perry ever will

One point I will make that is in line with some of this... think about trainers and coaches. These are/were top level guys but many of them never competed. They were teachers and coaches not MMA stars themselves. How many of the guys who train others could win against Perry?

If the answer is at least one, Perry has as much potential as a coach. I cant see how anyone could just see the actor part and immediately dismiss them.

 

[fedgrocky]

One point I will make that is in line with some of this... think about trainers and coaches. These are/were top level guys but many of them never competed. They were teachers and coaches not MMA stars themselves. How many of the guys who train others could win against Perry?

If the answer is at least one, Perry has as much potential as a coach. I cant see how anyone could just see the actor part and immediately dismiss them.

mike perry vs Edmond make it happen

 

[tasticles]

He’s not just some scrub though. Would he beat Mike Perry? No. But he is a lifelong martial artist. Personally I put more stock in his Kyokushin karate than other karate styles. Joe Rogan was man crushing all over him on his show so I think he has some legit skills.

He's also a BJJ black belt. I wouldn't be surprised if he can take this clown honestly.

 

[eon001]

I believe this was the interview that Perry got upset about. I have no idea why he would get so triggered. Michael was mad respectful and was speaking facts. Kimbo was never a high level martial artist.

 

[MescalineDreams]

He's also a BJJ black belt. I wouldn't be surprised if he can take this clown honestly.

Rogan said he would happily fight Snipes but wouldn't fight MJW because he had a wrestling background in high school or college

 

[MescalineDreams]

I believe this was the interview that Perry got upset about. I have no idea why he would get so triggered. Michael was mad respectful and was speaking facts. Kimbo was never a high level martial artist.

Well there is a sense of arrogance about him that might be off putting to some, but he has a tremendous amount of knowledge about martial arts, fighting and hes a very smart guy in general, he has good reason to be confident in his position and foundation

Such confidence can trigger insecurities

 

[tasticles]

Rogan said he would happily fight Snipes but wouldn't fight MJW because he had a wrestling background in high school or college

Interesting. Yeah now I know he could. I will take even a hobbyist expert over a brawler 9 times out of 10

 

[MescalineDreams]

I believe this was the interview that Perry got upset about. I have no idea why he would get so triggered. Michael was mad respectful and was speaking facts. Kimbo was never a high level martial artist.

Deepest part of this video is, it takes infinitely more energy to remove bad habits than it does to create good ones from the jump

That's an issue with a lot of guys today. Being taught techniques at a mediocre level and just repeating them until they're near immovable from the neural pathways of the mind.

It's why so many traditional martial artists have garbage hands and never improve, no matter how many pro boxers or who ever they train with

 

[igrofungus]

I would bet my fucking house that Micheal Jai White would beat the ever living fuck out of Mike Perry

hes over 6' tall, shredded as fuck, and probably a solid 220 lbs. Hes also a LIFELONG martial artist. Just because you don't UFC doesn't mean you cant whoop ass. MIke perry isn't some fucking world beater either