Rampage vs Rumble in their prime

EndlessCritic said:
What exactly is Prime Rampage?

2003 when he got destroyed by Wand?
2004 when he got destroyed by Wand?
2005 when he got destroyed by Shogun?
2008 when he lost to Griffin?
2009 when he scraped by Jardine?
2010 when he got dominated by Rashad?
2011 when he got dominated by Jones?
2012 when he got dominated by Bader?
2013 when he got dominated by Teixeira?


Rampage's prime, if it ever existed, was a narrow window in 2006-2007 where he assembled a total of two good wins over Liddell and Hendo, and a forgettable split decision win over Matt Lindland. At best, his Prime ended with his loss to Jones, and he never really recovered.

Prime Rumble KO'ed Bader/Teixeira/Gustafsson and dominated Phil Davis.

It's not even close. Prime Rumble > Prime Rampage.
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You know the only time Rumble went two years without losing was when the UFC cut him right?
 
EndlessCritic said:
What exactly is Prime Rampage?

2003 when he got destroyed by Wand?
2004 when he got destroyed by Wand?
2005 when he got destroyed by Shogun?
2008 when he lost to Griffin?
2009 when he scraped by Jardine?
2010 when he got dominated by Rashad?
2011 when he got dominated by Jones?
2012 when he got dominated by Bader?
2013 when he got dominated by Teixeira?


Rampage's prime, if it ever existed, was a narrow window in 2006-2007 where he assembled a total of two good wins over Liddell and Hendo, and a forgettable split decision win over Matt Lindland. At best, his Prime ended with his loss to Jones, and he never really recovered.

Prime Rumble KO'ed Bader/Teixeira/Gustafsson and dominated Phil Davis.

It's not even close. Prime Rumble > Prime Rampage.
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^ fantastic post that burst the fair tale bubble of many sherdoggers.
 
Rampage had the slams and his top game with GnP would've been difficult for Rumble to escape. But on the other hand Rumble at his best gave Davis zero takedowns. And smashed another good wrestler in Bader.

So I believe it would mostly be stand-up. And, imo, Rampage was at his best when trained by Ibarra. The counter-punching with good defense. It would've been Rumble's aggressive stand-up vs Page's counters. If Rumble gets past those counters Quinton is in trouble. If Rumble goes power hook mode Rampage counter-KO's him. The counter-striker usually has the edge in such a match-up.
 
I'm honestly surprised at the push for Rampage I'm reading. "Prime" Rumble would utterly crush any version of Rampage. When has Rampage ever shown the durability to survive those bombs? MUCH smaller/weaker guys than Prime Rumble like Shogun and Wanderlei wilted Rampage.
 
Prime Rampage if he can avoid a brawl in the first round, and mix in wrestling and pick his shots. Rumble is a monster, but he's got no heart, and Rampage would capitalise on this imo. People forget that Prime Rampage had an iron chin.
 
MCS said:
Rampage had the slams and his top game with GnP would've been difficult for Rumble to escape. But on the other hand Rumble at his best gave Davis zero takedowns. And smashed another good wrestler in Bader.

So I believe it would mostly be stand-up. And, imo, Rampage was at his best when trained by Ibarra. The counter-punching with good defense. It would've been Rumble's aggressive stand-up vs Page's counters. If Rumble gets past those counters Quinton is in trouble. If Rumble goes power hook mode Rampage counter-KO's him. The counter-striker usually has the edge in such a match-up.
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I would tend to give Rumble the edge standing, powerful dramatic strikers like Wanderlei and Shogun caused Rampage a lot of problems. That said even if it were "mostly" standup with Rumble it could only take one takedown from Jackson to turn the fight.
 
I'm thinking Rampage -- for my money, he had superior fundamentals and a granite chin. Also, when he trained hard, he had good stamina.
 
CaptHANDSUP said:
Rumbles style may not have looked as 'pretty' but I think he might get it done with his sheer power, timing, striking variety (headkicks, body kicks, southpaw stance, uppercuts, shovel hooks, cross), and ability to cut off the ring.

Although I'd probably be rooting for Rampage and I believe that MMA skill and technique level hasnt evolved as much as people think in the last 10 years. I dont know if there is any guy in heavyweight today that could box like Fedor, Stipe comes close.

Pride never die.
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lol..Fedor was a Sambo guy.

DC, JDS, Stipe, Francis, and even Cain are way better boxers.

Swinging from the hips with his chin straight up in the air. If you think the Maldonado debacle was a function of being "out of prime" just watch where his left hand was immediatelt becore he got clipped.

He was fast/agile and could hit hard. He was NOT a good boxer.
 
Don't know about "prime" but any version of rampage who doesn't just stumble forward and only throws punches beats rumble easily.
 
Sonny Qc said:
Prime Rampage was a way better technical boxer,
had better wrasslin'.

And Prime Page had a fckng good chin.

Rampage TKO 2
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Fucking lol @ Rampage being better technically than Rumble

Rumble is the best MMA striker in the history of LHW/HW

His power masked his supreme technique
 
moreorless87 said:
I would tend to give Rumble the edge standing, powerful dramatic strikers like Wanderlei and Shogun caused Rampage a lot of problems. That said even if it were "mostly" standup with Rumble it could only take one takedown from Jackson to turn the fight.
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Those fights were before Ibarra, though. He KO'd Wand with the stuff Juanito taught him. Different fighter. So I think either Rumble avoids the counters and gets close, or he lunges in with power hooks, Rampage parries them with his "answering the phone" defense and lands a counter hook similar to what he did against Chuck and Wand in the UFC.
 
Bluntforce420 said:
Page if he uses his grappling mixed in with striking

Rumble if there just trading
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Out of interest, why do you think Rampage wins if he uses wrestling? I recall Rumble easily nullified Phil Davis’ wrestling. Isn’t Phil Davis a better wrestler than Rampage?
 
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