How would current heavyweights do in pride?

[Claude]

All this shit was debunked so many times. You're making a fool out of yourself.

Fanboy excuses isn't debunking.

 

[Sickbro69420]

Rickson would tap all of them and become 525-0

 

[GIBLERTBAPTISTA]

Americana'd by Ron Waterman on a PRIDE "The best" undercard and sent back to the UFC, where the competition is ALOT easier.

 

[lilianjie]

Had a random thought on how the current top heavyweights would do up against competition in their prime in pride? You got stipe, dc, ngannou against the likes of prime fedor, cro cop, and mark hunt. I feel like ngannou might possibly be the ultimate destroyer under pride rules probably defeating prime fedor and cro cop.

Fedor's brother thought the exact same thing.

 

[po_thead]

Ehhh is this a joke or something. I think Pride only has had two HW champions, Nog and Fedor. And Fedor was a champion for a decade. Nog had some succes, in UFC, beating UFC champion Sylvia for the title.

Also embarrassing Couture

 

[po_thead]

GSP would have gotten wrecked in Pride.

Think about it. He wouldn't be alble to hide at one weight class, he would've had to fight people from all sizes, and his wrestling to a decision approach wouldn't have worked as damage was more important in Japan than top position and GSP took more damage than plenty of his opponents.

GSP would have lost to a bigger can most likely, lol. Or maybe a smaller one, considering he lost to Serra.

Ha, don't be ridiculous

 

[po_thead]

Any of the UFC top 15 right now would beat Prides best

Thanks for the laugh

 

[Claude]

Ha, don't be ridiculous

I'm just speaking the truth.

 

[kflo]

I'm telling the truth mate. A WW cannot be the best fighter in the world. P4P isn't real, it's a marketing tool for smaller men.

GSP would have been destroyed more times if he fought open weight. That's just a fact.

Yeah, no one considers SRR the best.....derp.....

 

[gspieler]

I don't really see how Francis would do any better than Sergei, Hunt, Aleks, etc. The guy has insane power, aggression, a 5 minute gas tank, and mediocre technique. In Pride, he'd for sure score some impressive ko's, but the upper echelon all beat him(on most nights).

Stipe and D.C. are far more interesting IMO. I think they would have absolute wars with fighters like Nog, Cro Cop, and Werdum.

 

[Claude]

Yeah, no one considers SRR the best.....derp.....

Only the best P4P.

P4P is a fantasy. It's not a real way to measure fighters

 

[kflo]

Only the best P4P.

P4P is a fantasy. It's not a real way to measure fighters

Actually it is. It’s a sport with weight classes. To try and assess the best in the sport has to be in the context of the rules of the sport. Again most consider SRR to be the best boxer of all time. Deal with it.

 

[moreorless87]

Technically GSP would have had to fight at 160lbs or 185lbs I spose so that would obviously have been a significant factor, not sure how well he would have done at that latter.

As far as knees on the ground go I don't see that being a big factor with him personally either way, his takedowns tended to be fast shots which weren't easy to counter with knees but he also tended to stay in guard alot with limited ability to use them offencively.

 

[Claude]

Actually it is. It’s a sport with weight classes. To try and assess the best in the sport has to be in the context of the rules of the sport. Again most consider SRR to be the best boxer of all time. Deal with it.

That's why you cannot be the best across all weight classes.

 

[kflo]

That's why you cannot be the best across all weight classes.

That makes no sense.

I have no idea what that means.

 

[kenetics]

Had a random thought on how the current top heavyweights would do up against competition in their prime in pride? You got stipe, dc, ngannou against the likes of prime fedor, cro cop, and mark hunt. I feel like ngannou might possibly be the ultimate destroyer under pride rules probably defeating prime fedor and cro cop.

Francis would get tossed by prime fedor and then tko or sub Francis on ground. Francis ground game is horrible.

Prime mark hunt would probably ko Francis since hunt was a K1 champ and had an iron chin.

I can see Frances ko crop cop. But I can also see cro cop high kicking Francis too. Francis has terrible striking defense.

 

[kenetics]

He's better now , but still , already been beat in a ring .

Ummmm ya Francis gets destroyed in pride lol.

 

[Claude]

That makes no sense.

I have no idea what that means.

You cannot be the best at something you cannot be measured at.

Khabib can look amazing at LW. That cannot ever be proof that he is better than Stipe. Him performing better in a different class against men his size doesn't make him better. And if they fought, Khabib wouldn't look like a top 50 fighter.

P4P is not real, it's not tangible. It's a marketing tool. And a very subjective one.

 

[Grenades]

Fedor was the 3rd best Judoka in Russia twice at a relatively young age.

Again I think this "constant rapid evolution" hype has alot of fantasy to it, it tends to be very light on specifics and very heavy on "oh things are just better now" generalisations. Its basically something that suits the interests of alot of those involved in the sport and they can get away with it alot more than most other sports because of the lack of real journalism and fan knowledge.

If you can quote me on any those quote then great. As to fan knowledge, I’ve been around, I was around during Pride and ufc1 so maybe we just have different views.

 

[Grenades]

Still can't defend body shots though.

I don't want to think what a liver kick from Mirko would have done to him.

Mirko would be on his back When that left hip turned for a kick against DC. My opinion, yours isn’t the same.