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Exactly.
Arizona is very weird.
Numerous media outlets claim it for Blue, yet it's actually still contested, just like PA.
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Exactly.
Arizona is very weird.
Numerous media outlets claim it for Blue, yet it's actually still contested, just like PA.
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Of course... which is why im asking how would people react if Trump took this to court.
also why are people assuming that Trump wont find evidence... crazier things have happened in recent times. The Hunter Biden Laptop, and Hilalry's emails for example.
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Th Inq has a paywall but here is the article.
Philadelphia is known as a city of neighborhoods but that also means it is very segregated and it has been since the Great Migration.
"It's one thing for a Democratic presidential candidate to dominate a Democratic city like Philadelphia, but check out this head-spinning figure: In 59 voting divisions in the city, Mitt Romney received not one vote. Zero. Zilch.
These are the kind of numbers that send Republicans into paroxysms of voter-fraud angst, but such results may not be so startling after all.
"We have always had these dense urban corridors that are extremely Democratic," said Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University. "It's kind of an urban fact, and you are looking at the extreme end of it in Philadelphia."
Most big cities are politically homogeneous, with 75 percent to 80 percent of voters identifying as Democrats.
Cities are not only bursting with Democrats: They are easier to organize than rural areas where people live far apart from one another, said Sasha Issenberg, author of The Victory Lab: The Secret Science of Winning Campaigns
"One reason Democrats can maximize votes in Philadelphia is that it's very easy to knock on every door," Issenberg said.
Still, was there not one contrarian voter in those 59 divisions, where unofficial vote tallies have President Obama outscoring Romney by a combined 19,605 to 0?
Upon hearing the numbers, Steve Miskin, a spokesman for Republicans in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, brought up his party's voter-identification initiative - which was held off for this election - and said, "We believe we need to continue ensuring the integrity of the ballot."
The absence of a voter-ID law, however, would not stop anyone from voting for a Republican candidate.
Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia who has studied African American precincts, said he had occasionally seen 100 percent of the vote go for the Democratic candidate. Chicago and Atlanta each had precincts that registered no votes for Republican Sen. John McCain in 2008.
"I'd be surprised if there weren't a handful of precincts that didn't cast a vote for Romney," he said. But the number of zero precincts in Philadelphia deserves examination, Sabato added.
"Not a single vote for Romney or even an error? That's worth looking into," he said.
In a city with 1,687 of the ward subsets known as divisions, each with hundreds of voters, 59 is about 3.5 percent of the total.
In some of those divisions, it's not only Romney supporters who are missing. Republicans in general are nearly extinct.
Take North Philadelphia's 28th Ward, third division, bounded by York, 24th, and 28th Streets and Susquehanna Avenue.
About 94 percent of the 633 people who live in that division are black. Seven white residents were counted in the 2010 census.
In the entire 28th Ward, Romney received only 34 votes to Obama's 5,920.
Although voter registration lists, which often contain outdated information, show 12 Republicans live in the ward's third division, The Inquirer was unable to find any of them by calling or visiting their homes.
Four of the registered Republicans no longer lived there; four others didn't answer their doors. City Board of Elections registration data say a registered Republican used to live at 25th and York Streets, but none of the neighbors across the street Friday knew him. Cathy Santos, 56, founder of the National Alliance of Women Veterans, had one theory: "We ran him out of town!" she said and laughed.
James Norris, 19, who lives down the street, is listed as a Republican in city data. But he said he's a Democrat and voted for Obama because he thinks the president will help the middle class.
A few blocks away, Eric Sapp, a 42-year-old chef, looked skeptical when told that city data had him listed as a registered Republican. "I got to check on that," said Sapp, who voted for Obama.
Eighteen Republicans reportedly live in the nearby 15th Division, according to city registration records. The 15th has the distinction of pitching two straight Republican shutouts - zero votes for McCain in 2008, zero for Romney on Tuesday. Oh, and 13 other city divisions did the same thing in 2008 and 2012.
Three of the 15th's registered Republicans were listed as living in the same apartment, but the tenant there said he had never heard of them. The addresses of several others could not be found.
On West Albert Street, Duke Dunston says he knows he's a registered Republican, but he's never voted for one.
The leader of the 28th Ward is Democrat Anthony Clark, who grew up under the tutelage of the late power broker and Democratic ward leader Carol Ann Campbell. Clark is also a city commissioner, one of three elected officials who oversee Philadelphia elections.
"In the African American community from 33d to 24th between Ridge and Somerset, there is a large population of Democrats and there are not many Republicans in there at all. I think it's the issues. People are not feeling that Romney is in touch with them," Clark said.
Despite the Democratic advantage in the 28th Ward, Clark says he also makes sure party workers are getting the vote out.
"People get out, give out literature, talk to people about the issues. Also, they work the polls," Clark said. "People know them in their divisions."
Clark struggled to recall anyone in his area who ever identified as a Republican. Though that is not something anyone would likely volunteer to a Democratic ward leader, Clark eventually remembered Lewis Harris, the GOP leader in the nearby 29th ward, and that rare species: an urban black Republican.
Harris, in an interview, said he works for the GOP mostly because he believes city neighborhoods need attention from both parties.
"I open the door to the community and let them be exposed to diversity in the political party," Harris said. "I want political community-based leverage."
Harris cast his vote for Romney, but he's also an Obama fan.
"I love both of those people," he said.
Nationally, 93 percent of African Americans voted for Obama, according to exit polls, so it's not surprising that in some parts of Philadelphia, the president did even better than that.
In the entire city, Obama got 85 percent of the vote. His worst showing was in South Philadelphia's 26th Ward. There, the president garnered 52.3 percent of the vote, compared to 46.6 percent for Romney.
Paula Terreri, 57, a 26th Ward Republican who describes herself as a devout Catholic, said outside the polls on Tuesday that she voted for Romney because she opposed abortion.
Many parts of Philadelphia and other big cities simply lack Republican voters, a fact of campaigning that has been true since Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, Stanford University's Rodden said.
In 2008, McCain got zero votes in 57 Philadelphia voting divisions. That was a big increase from 2004, when George W. Bush was blanked in just five divisions.
As the first African American president, Obama held immense appeal to black voters, but skin color is only part of the story, said Mark Sawyer, a political science professor at UCLA.
Previous Republican candidates, including Richard Nixon and Jack Kemp, supported affirmative action and urban development, but their party has abandoned those stances, Sawyer said."
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Most of those red states are Welfare states. MS, AL, LA and KY rely on government assistance to meet their budgets just to survive. 40% of KY budget is government money. With states like CA and NY paying more into the national budget those red states if split would turn into a shit hole country.
Just look at these results (and likely that PA, NC, GA go red).
Do you think this is a country that can be democratically led by a Democrat President?
The heartland of America is red, the urbanite coastal people are Blue.
It's a country that should be divided and led by two presidents.
Otherwise you would have continual strife.
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You realize it was sarcasm?
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Fox News is on Bidens cock? Lol
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Dont be idiot. Cheaters in Mma get away with it bc minimum ppl know about it.
Can you imagine hundreds or thousands ppl involved and noone says anything.
Ofc there can be some small amount of fraud and shady bussines with votes, there are idiots who can try it, it would be on both sides thought.
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I said on here, weeks ago, that this will be decided in court in December.
There is some shadiness happening here. If investigated, I reckon that they will find some shit in Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia ... Enough to challenge the legitimacy of the votes there.
It may come down to a Supreme Court ruling and ACB May be the kingmaker.
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The red states sound to me like full of freedom loving people who would prefer having government off their backs than anything else.
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Don't worry about it. It always takes about three or four days to count the last 5%
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Someone proposed a valid question the other day.
What if this isn't settled by inauguration day. Will Trump leave the White house or accept that?
I have a hard time believing he will
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Yes, they did. 57 million, in fact.
https://www.eac.gov/documents/2017/...entee-and-mail-voting-data-statutory-overview
It’s almost like you know this, and just choose to be wrong, because who could be that ignorant?
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No I didnt, sorry. Hard to judge bc some ppl really believe stupidest things nowadays.
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One question I have for the Trump people. If Biden was stealing the presidency why wouldn't he have stolen the senate too? At this point if Biden hangs on and is President he will be hamstrung his first term and facing a disastrous map in 2022. Surely with less eyes it would be easier to steal down ballet senate races, no?
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There are timepoints beforehand where the states need to finalize their results and submit. That’s why it’s very hard for someone who’s behind to take a state back after the state has been called. They’re very hesitant to throw out ballots under any circumstances, and an extended legal fight won’t work, wherever they sit in mid December will be the final word.
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???
Is this a 70IQ post?
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MAGA night at the White House!!
I’ll book a ticket and we will all bunker down ^^
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