Elections US Election day(s) PBP days 2, 3 & 4

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Biden takes the lead in PA.

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andnowweknow said:
If you are entertaining it, it's only because Trump said it...because there is no evidence of any fraud. Trump is a sore loser and you're still his rube apparently.
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There are multiple complaints and eye witness accounts across many states.

So when you state that if he thinks that, that it must be because Trump told him is a bunch of bullshit.

Nice try, Geobells.
 
Rational Poster said:
Why is the Trump campaign so fucking special?

Past Presidents haven't demanded access to the ballot facilities. This is fucking bonkers dude.

Casting such doubts on the election process just because you're a sore fucking loser is both childish and dangerous.
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Yes they have, and it was granted. 2000 Florida had an observer from each party for every single counter.
 
Hadron90 said:
I remember the 2000 election. I remember everyone in the Government and media were bending over backwards to try to give the public confidence in the vote. The Florida counting centers were backed shoulder-to-shoulder with media and observers. Every ballot was scrutinized by the counter and observers from both parties. Look at this:


There was media commentary on all of this footage with election officials and lawyers brought in, explaining exactly what we were seeing and what steps were being taken to make sure its fair.

Maybe that will still come, and if so, great. But so far, I am only seeing mass censorship. Reddit has stated you will be banned for claiming voter fraud. Twitter is doing the same. 3 MSM cut Trump's speech off mid-stream. This is not the way to instill confidence in our election systems.
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I remember the 2000 election too and the whole Hanging Chads thing.

And ...way back then....20 years ago..... I remember this image below doing the rounds on email (email had only been around in common use for about 4 or 5 years at that point).

Maybe it's time to resurrect this book.....

 
Rational Poster said:
Why is the Trump campaign so fucking special?

Past Presidents haven't demanded access to the ballot facilities. This is fucking bonkers dude.

Casting such doubts on the election process just because you're a sore fucking loser is both childish and dangerous.
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I’m not saying for JUST the Trump campaign. I’m saying for future elections in general. I don’t think it’s unreasonable. Do you remember the whole Russian tampering thing?

As far as I’m concerned since 2000 we’ve had more elections than not where the integrity, accuracy and honesty of the vote counting came into question. It’s not like this is the first time we’ve had concerns
 
Hadron90 said:
And how many observers is that? I posted the livestreams of these places yesterday. The Philly one is an entire warehouse with dozens of counters, counting in cubicles that hide them, and the observers are supposed to stand in 40ft away behind some ropes. And on the livestream, you could see what look like a single observer in there, and he wasn't even watching because it was pointless.
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No one was watching!

I know because I was watching a public live stream open to literally everyone!

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Lol at calling dems crazy the last 4 years for russia gate and then swallowing Trump's fraud claims.
 
Hadron90 said:
If like 80% of city votes are for Biden...where do cities even find enough "bi-partisan" workers to count the votes? Or conversely, where the fuck do you find bi-partisan workers in extremely rural 100% Trump counties that had like 10 votes? Obviously your claim isn't true.

Elections are counted by volunteers. They don't sort the volunteers by "bi-partisanship".
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Actually they showed the set up for Georgia on camera the other day. That’s exactly what they do.
 
Voter fraud thing has some weight on account to how much the left has been kicking and screaming like children for the past 4 years trying everything they could to get Trump ejected. They even impeached a sitting President.

If Biden wins, thank God I don't have to hear about Russia collision for the next 4 years. With all of that Russia talk you'd think we're in the middle of another cold war
 
Tropodan said:
There are multiple complaints and eye witness accounts across many states.

So when you state that if he thinks that, that it must be because Trump told him is a bunch of bullshit.

Nice try, Geobells.
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I know this is painful for you. Trump is a loser.
 
Hadron90 said:
Do you think it would be a good thing, or a bad thing, for surveillance footage to be made publicly available?
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I think that having footage available if needed is good. But I think making it all available to the public just cause they ask is a horrible idea. What- You just want them to put up a website with the 10's of millions of hours of video covering the 10's maybe hundreds of thousands of boxes all over the country? Or just the ones you want to see?

Or maybe, just maybe, you should need to say, 'Hey judge, here is a bit of evidence that suggests this box may have been, not was, but may have been, tampered with in some way, we would like to see the footage.'

The fact that it is largely Republican appointed judges laughing this shit off should tell you a lot.
 
SpamuraiSensei said:
Voter fraud thing has some weight on account to how much the left has been kicking and screaming like children for the past 4 years trying everything they could to get Trump ejected. They even impeached a sitting President.
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Voter fraud has merit because Trump got impeached.

Word.
 
If Biden holds onto Nevada, wins Pennsylvania and Georgia.....Trump wins Alaska and North Carolina, then Biden will beat Trump 306-232 just like Trump did Hilary.


This would be some hilarious irony since Trump brags about how his score was such a landslide when it really came down to a few thousand votes in selected states.
 
Zebra Cheeks said:
I’m not saying for JUST the Trump campaign. I’m saying for future elections in general. I don’t think it’s unreasonable. Do you remember the whole Russian tampering thing?

As far as I’m concerned since 2000 we’ve had more elections than not where the integrity, accuracy and honesty of the vote counting came into question. It’s not like this is the first time we’ve had concerns
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And we aren't making tech improvements either. In some European countries, when you cast a ballot, you are given a receipt with a serial number. You can later go lookup that serial number and get a summary of your ballot so that you can verify it was tabulated correctly. As far as I know, you can't do that in any US state.
 
Zebra Cheeks said:
I’m not saying for JUST the Trump campaign. I’m saying for future elections in general. I don’t think it’s unreasonable. Do you remember the whole Russian tampering thing?

As far as I’m concerned since 2000 we’ve had more elections than not where the integrity, accuracy and honesty of the vote counting came into question. It’s not like this is the first time we’ve had concerns
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The Russian tampering had nothing to do with the ballot counting facilities. It had everything to do with Russian nationals stealing private data from American citizens, accessing voter lists, and then colluding with American and other polling agencies to target specific voter demographics with misinformation based off that stolen data.

There are PLENTY of GOP and Democrat officials overseeing the sorting, counting, and tallying of the votes in every state.
 
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