What on Earth is Overeem doing?

I think you guys are overblowing this...

He fought a huge opponent in Volkov. Ginormous, strong, large reach. It was just a very bad matchup.

Need I remind you he just almost completely shut out another very talented kickboxer (Rozenstruik) for 5 whole rounds.

And he's old. Nothing out of the ordinary is happening here
 
Antix said:
He’s kind of trying to emulate what Arlovski is doing but being way less successful and turtling up too much. Arlovski is fighting intelligently and still throwing some combos rather than just one over hand and immediately turtling when he doesn’t land.
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his competition level is far greater than arlovski. he's much higher ranked as well.
 
He was looking slow and helpless there, time to hang them up, his final title run has come to an end imo.
 
tramendous said:
He has brutal knees. Dont know why he doesnt clinch and fire them off. He also has a good ground game that he doesnt use as much as he should.
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His knees and back are probably at least half shot at this point. He's 40 now. He hasn't had a knee stoppage in 4 years and 10 fights. Hasn't had a kick stoppage in almost 5. When guys stop shooting effectively, and thow less high kicks and knees it can be an indication that their knees are not what they used to be. One or two fights, maybe it's a style choice, if a guy changes up his whole style to do the stuff that's least physically taxing through his late 30 (particularly a big guy)... that's an indicator of physical decline.

Another example I'd point to, is 25 year old Jon Jones takedown game vs his last 3 fights. All those 5 rounders and championship camps look like they are catching up with him IMO.
 
He was doin shit like that in the Stipe fight. He's too big old and slow to pull that shit off.
 
Toothlessjoe said:
His strategy just isn't working. For a veteran it's so weird.

He's been using that pull off to the side + throwing a looping left, arcing left for a few fights now, it's what he threw when Francis sent him to the moon. He must have so many uncommon techniques to catch out HWs, but this isn't one that works yet he keeps going to it.

I get the shelling up too, he knows HWs gas quickly, so they dump energy as they try to pummel him, but he just can't seem to absorb it before they gas.

He should just go for broke every fight to be honest, I'd give him better odds.
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If he's always going for broke I doubt we'd even be talking about Reem in 2021.
 
DivineMind said:
I think you guys are overblowing this...

He fought a huge opponent in Volkov. Ginormous, strong, large reach. It was just a very bad matchup.

Need I remind you he just almost completely shut out another very talented kickboxer (Rozenstruik) for 5 whole rounds.

And he's old. Nothing out of the ordinary is happening here
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I'd disagree he dropped three big bombs and that did next to no damage. Volkov is very hatable and follow up combos was open. if Frank dropped the same punches he would've capitalised on the opening and put him down. pains to me say this but he is done. power is the last thing to go and its completely gone - partly due to his looping left hand - partially throw to keep maximum distance. he has a harder task. he's not able to through as much and absorb as much 1+1=2
 
HHJ said:
He was doin shit like that in the Stipe fight. He's too big old and slow to pull that shit off.
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yeah I agree, first thing that came to mind after a thorough analysis, he dropped Stipe cause he threw a straight, something has hasn't done since the Hunt fight
 
TIme for Overeem to hang it up. He wanted one last push for the title and he lost. No shame in it. He's a shoe-in Hall of Famer as far as I'm concerned and has a legendary resume.
 
DivineMind said:
I think you guys are overblowing this...

He fought a huge opponent in Volkov. Ginormous, strong, large reach. It was just a very bad matchup.

Need I remind you he just almost completely shut out another very talented kickboxer (Rozenstruik) for 5 whole rounds.

And he's old. Nothing out of the ordinary is happening here
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Their reaches were the same
 
reem is soo timid its sad, what happened? no steriods made him lose his confidence?
 
Toothlessjoe said:
He's been using that pull off to the side + throwing a looping left, arcing left for a few fights now, it's what he threw when Francis sent him to the moon. He must have so many uncommon techniques to catch out HWs, but this isn't one that works yet he keeps going to it.
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Uh he knocked down and out a few guys with that.
It's a common boxing technique. Throw a hook with the power hand and circle away from the center.
Knocked down Miocic with a left hook, but didn't circle out, because he saw that he hurt him.
Everybody praises Dominick Cruz for it ;)

Against Ngannou he was caught while dipping, not moving out.

Overeem only trains once a day nowadays he said. Because he gets injured otherwise.
When he was younger he trained twice a day, maybe with an extra run in the morning.
Once is not enough to keep your skills, especially at heavyweight.
 
Guys lose some of their tools as the get old. Remember how at the end of Cro Cops career he rarely threw kicks anymore and relied heavily on his boxing? He’s probably lost some speed and flexibility in his legs
 
I think Overeem is just collecting paychecks at this point. By no means is he taking any risks what so ever when it comes to being offensive in the cage.
 
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