Sucker Punch compilation and analysis

I blame people not practicing combat sports ever and never been in a fight.
If someone approaches you never let your hands down, especially if they tell you to keep them down just do the old Chael "Cant let you get close" Way better than just standing trying to act like you are invincible
 
GreenGorilla said:
I blame people not practicing combat sports ever and never been in a fight.
If someone approaches you never let your hands down, especially if they tell you to keep them down just do the old Chael "Cant let you get close" Way better than just standing trying to act like you are invincible
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Yeah. I don’t condone the cheap shot, but there are ways to protect yourself from MOST sucker punches by having some situational awareness.

If you let a guy who is acting aggressive within punching range, you are setting yourself up to get hurt.

I never understood the whole hands down tough guy posture. I know they think it looks tough, but to me it is just marking yourself as someone who probably hasn’t been in a real fight.
Most people who have been punched hard in the face aren’t going to go out of their way to give their opponent a free power shot to the mouth.
 
IMO the reason people don't keep their hands up (in a dissarming, non-boxing stance) is because it looks embarrassing. Keeping your hands down looks tougher if there's an argument. Hands up, palms out, looks like appeasment.
 
A lot of those there's nothing they could have done beyond not being in the situation to begin with. Not much you can do about a guy coming up behind you while you're concentrating on a guy in front of you, and putting you out with a sucker punch.

But damn I have to laugh at these idiots who are facing a guy, right up their face, and then they get KO'd because the other guy has the common sense to throw first. If you get in guy's face or he gets in your face, you need to be squared up immediately or create distance.

Chael had the right idea when Wanderlei tried to get close to him and he says "I can't let you get near me" lol
 
My name is said:
I always watch shoulders. As soon as it starts dropping back I'm moving or sticking my own quick shot in
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I'm bad about it but you shouldn't be letting someone within striking distance. Verbal warning, make space, and if they renegade it's time to defend yourself. No conversation or posturing just business.

My hand speed isn't good by any measure so I can't depend on it but even with very fast men I can use my footwork to make them miss or atleast keep them fighting at my pace. But this is all dependent on not letting them control the initial engagement.
 
BayAreaGuy said:
IMO the reason people don't keep their hands up (in a dissarming, non-boxing stance) is because it looks embarrassing. Keeping your hands down looks tougher if there's an argument. Hands up, palms out, looks like appeasment.
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Yeah, and appeasement is the right call. Avoid the fight if at all possible, show the witnesses you're trying to de-escalate if the cops have to come with open hands up, and you're ready to protect yourself if needed - which means throwing first if it's inevitable.
 
As guy that worked as security in clubs
Reality is people that have been and seen enough shit develop good habits in these situations and learn to smell when shit is coming
Normal people watching self defense vids on youtube or trying suckerpunch defense at McDojo will still get clocked, even just because they get lost in the guy trashtalk and they don't get instant danger feel when he does a little gesture
Is normal.
Is already not so guaranteed that one person that ever did good life and just trained in a gym will be able to win an actual real fight just by "training enough"
But suckerpunch?
That's even smaller chance, specially considering the normal person is usually just trying to talk his way out and don't even have a reaction ready if hands start fly
 
Bacco said:
As guy that worked as security in clubs
Reality is people that have been and seen enough shit develop good habits in these situations and learn to smell when shit is coming
Normal people watching self defense vids on youtube or trying suckerpunch defense at McDojo will still get clocked, even just because they get lost in the guy trashtalk and they don't get instant danger feel when he does a little gesture
Is normal.
Is already not so guaranteed that one person that ever did good life and just trained in a gym will be able to win an actual real fight just by "training enough"
But suckerpunch?
That's even smaller chance, specially considering the normal person is usually just trying to talk his way out and don't even have a reaction ready if hands start fly
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Trained in a mma or muay thai gym guy probably wins in a real fight vs most people. The average person can only punch with their dominant arm if that.
 
Po said:
Trained in a mma or muay thai gym guy probably wins in a real fight vs most people. The average person can only punch with their dominant arm if that.
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MMA/MT guys often have fair share of street experience too, and they sparring hard and seriously
Would add boxers and kickboxers there too, but many other martial arts don't fit this and stay more on theory or do some very unrealistic or soft sparring

But even in their case if i must imagine good guy that never fought in his life and just picked MMA/MT as 2-times-a-week sport, a street/club situation he's not used to, get suckerpunched is still big risk and if get clocked things can get ugly quickly

That's the "not so guaranteed"

I was pretty trained too, and still personally in fights (a life ago lol) i remember i was much more nervous during the trashtalk/escalation part where shit can start any second, than about be into the fight itself
Latter part i felt strange comfortable, but the "before" sucked even for me that by the age of 20s already had plenty, good luck at nice guy that never been into one to stay focused, calm etc

If you ask me i would prefer 10kg heavier guy in a ring, than have to deal with all inpredictable street/club/bar crap like suckerpunch, look if have stuff in hands, look if some friend is trying sneak at your side/behind etc
 
Bacco said:
MMA/MT guys often have fair share of street experience too, and they sparring hard and seriously
Would add boxers and kickboxers there too, but many other martial arts don't fit this and stay more on theory or do some very unrealistic or soft sparring

But even in their case if i must imagine good guy that never fought in his life and just picked MMA/MT as 2-times-a-week sport, a street/club situation he's not used to, get suckerpunched is still big risk and if get clocked things can get ugly quickly

That's the "not so guaranteed"

I was pretty trained too, and still personally in fights (a life ago lol) i remember i was much more nervous during the trashtalk/escalation part where shit can start any second, than about be into the fight itself
Latter part i felt strange comfortable, but the "before" sucked even for me that by the age of 20s already had plenty, good luck at nice guy that never been into one to stay focused, calm etc

If you ask me i would prefer 10kg heavier guy in a ring, than have to deal with all inpredictable street/club/bar crap like suckerpunch, look if have stuff in hands, look if some friend is trying sneak at your side/behind etc
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Having actually been in a real fight goes a LONG way to succeeding in a street fight, I would venture to say more than having taken martial arts classes without actually doing at least hard sparring.

The truth is that you don’t know how you will react in a real fight until you have been in a real fight. Particularly in a bar/street fight type scenario with no rules and no ref.

The stress/fear factor is much much higher than anything you encounter in TMA classes. Some people can’t handle it. Their fear/panic or their conscience may also keep them from pulling the trigger to throw a punch.

Also many of those classes teach ridiculous techniques that will get you hurt in a real fight at full speed with someone trying to hurt you. 99% of the blocks in Tai Kwon Do are useless in a real fight. Most of the kicks in TKD are useless at close range and in a crowded area. BJJ and wrestling are great in 1 v 1 scenarios but a great way to get your face stomped in a brawl.
 
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