Social John Cena profusely apologizes to Chinese netizens and China for calling Taiwan a country

luckyshot said:
File all this under, "Stuff easy to say when it costs you nothing."

Lol, I bet you'd all fold you cards and "apologize profusely" if it meant not losing 50 bucks, let alone millions.
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If we're talking about a person struggling to make ends meet or who is otherwise precarious financially then yes $50 can mean a lot and I understand being a bit PC to protect your livelihood but John Cena is worth ~$60 million, he's not going to go hungry or homeless if he takes a moral stand here.

Weird to see Lefty posters coming to Cena's defense but whatever.
 
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He should have said that Taiwan is more Japanese than Chinese, that would have really pissed China off... because the truth hurts.
 
MicroBrew said:
Yeah China demands all foreign firms take on Chinese partners and technology transfer is a given. As soon as you set up shop there, your I.P. will be stolen. A competitor will then starting making the same thing you are, and will undercut you. They will also use the government to shut you down , if your company is not some big multinational making a complicated product which can not be matched by a Chinese competitor.
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Tbh a lot of that stuff makes perfect sense and I don't blame the Chinese for that. Of course Western companies and their governments want to be able to set up shop, keep all the know-how to themselves and merely exploit the labor of the third world country but that's not necessarily in the interest of the thirds world country. What China did is make sure that the foreign investment also meant an investment in Chinese social and intellectual capital which is the smart thing to do, true shithole countries have leaders that don't care as long as their elites get richer.

The IP theft is shitty but in the grand scheme of international economics its hardly comparable to the kind of exploitation foisted on the global South by the global North.
 
BAM said:
Cena was in essence the corporate spokesman for the WWE for decades. Including during the Chris Benoit incident.

Bootlicking is kinda his thing. Lol at anyone expecting anything else from him. It's all he knows.
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He also plays the starring role in the upcoming Jackie Chan film. He will suck every dick he can to ensure that gets released on the mainland.
Khabib Khanate said:
How far does this mentality go? Would it have been okay to put money over politics and appeased the Nazis? I know that's a bit an extreme analogy but China is waging a campaign of ethnic cleansing against the Uighurs and Tibetans and has irredentist claims over Taiwan so its really not that far off.
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That is not an extreme analogy at all. The CCP has a history or actual ritual human cannibalism of their political opposition afterall.
 
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Khabib Khanate said:
Tbh a lot of that stuff makes perfect sense and I don't blame the Chinese for that. Of course Western companies and their governments want to be able to set up shop, keep all the know-how to themselves and merely exploit the labor of the third world country but that's not necessarily in the interest of the thirds world country. What China did is make sure that the foreign investment also meant an investment in Chinese social and intellectual capital which is the smart thing to do, true shithole countries have leaders that don't care as long as their elites get richer.

The IP theft is shitty but in the grand scheme of international economics its hardly comparable to the kind of exploitation foisted on the global South by the global North.
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I don't have any gripe about foreign firms advancing technology in the local nation. It helps bring nations out of the 3rd world and become developing nations.

My issue is the unprecedented theft of I.P. by China. A lot of everyday people here spend millions and work hard for years to come up with a product, only for China to steal it. From College, I know of such a case.

Indonesia, India, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand and other countries all have foreign high tech firms building products there, but none of them are ripping off firms like China does.
 
MicroBrew said:
I don't have any gripe about foreign firms advancing technology in the local nation. It helps bring nations out of the 3rd world and become developing nations.

My issue is the unprecedented theft of I.P. by China. A lot of everyday people here spend millions and work hard for years to come up with a product, only for China to steal it. From College, I know of such a case.

Indonesia, India, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand and other countries all have foreign high tech firms building products there, but none of them are ripping off firms like China does.
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Its the bit about taking on a local partner that I think is a good idea.
 
MicroBrew said:
Yeah China demands all foreign firms take on Chinese partners and technology transfer is a given. As soon as you set up shop there, your I.P. will be stolen. A competitor will then starting making the same thing you are, and will undercut you. They will also use the government to shut you down , if your company is not some big multinational making a complicated product which can not be matched by a Chinese competitor.
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That's exactly how we saw it. We watched them bring in Westinghouse Nuclear, copy the AP-1000 design for nuclear plants and then Westinghouse goes bankrupt. So, they can and will screw over big companies too.

We are a Small Technology firm with some unique and powerful data and analytic IP. We are "Best Practices" in the Nuclear Power Industry and also do work for the DOE. I did tell them we would do Software as a Service (SAS). The reaction was priceless and I only suggested it to see the reaction. I knew it was a non-starter with them not having access to the IP.
 
Fuck John Cena. I always preferred Batista back in the day anyway.
 
on a related note/with where this thread is going (ip theft, etc) - it's why the cutting edge is important - it can't really be copied. china made great strides with their semis via ip theft/etc, but they can't just copy TSMC's (and etc) fabs and pump out cutting edge hardware.

and it's why the fabs are so important to taiwan (as long as the world needs their stuff it's a wwiii-esque deterrent) and why china wants taiwan more than ever.
 
I get posters like @MicroBrew criticizing Chinese nationalists, and I think he has the moral position to do it. Nationalism is irrational, China is brutal as a country, and MicroBrew has a pretty consistent regard for liberty, democracy, and reason.

But all the right-wing American nationalists in here waving their hands about this is fucking hilarious. All the guys vocally support the US maintaining non-voting territories, openly suppressing the votes of African Americans, and all the other anti-democratic anti-freedom initiatives of the reactionary horde.

The only thing directing American right wingers to supporting Taiwan is hate of China, and the only thing directing them toward hatred of China is uninformed hobby-rage.
 
rob mafia said:
on a related note/with where this thread is going (ip theft, etc) - it's why the cutting edge is important - it can't really be copied. china made great strides with their semis via ip theft/etc, but they can't just copy TSMC's (and etc) fabs and pump out cutting edge hardware.

and it's why the fabs are so important to taiwan (as long as the world needs their stuff it's a wwiii-esque deterrent) and why china wants taiwan more than ever.
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Over a week ago I saw some YouTube videos that described another angle to China's I.P. theft. Was thinking of making a thread on it. Will do later today or tomorrow.
 
Trotsky said:
I get posters like @MicroBrew criticizing Chinese nationalists, and I think he has the moral position to do it. Nationalism is irrational, China is brutal as a country, and MicroBrew has a pretty consistent regard for liberty, democracy, and reason.

But all the right-wing American nationalists in here waving their hands about this is fucking hilarious. All the guys vocally support the US maintaining non-voting territories, openly suppressing the votes of African Americans, and all the other anti-democratic anti-freedom initiatives of the reactionary horde.

The only thing directing American right wingers to supporting Taiwan is hate of China, and the only thing directing them toward hatred of China is uninformed hobby-rage.
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Broken clock anology
 
Trotsky said:
I get posters like @MicroBrew criticizing Chinese nationalists, and I think he has the moral position to do it. Nationalism is irrational, China is brutal as a country, and MicroBrew has a pretty consistent regard for liberty, democracy, and reason.

But all the right-wing American nationalists in here waving their hands about this is fucking hilarious. All the guys vocally support the US maintaining non-voting territories, openly suppressing the votes of African Americans, and all the other anti-democratic anti-freedom initiatives of the reactionary horde.

The only thing directing American right wingers to supporting Taiwan is hate of China, and the only thing directing them toward hatred of China is uninformed hobby-rage.
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ah, yes. communist china, mao, etc - JUST LIKE right-wing 'merica.

oh, wait.
 
Looks like his political career is just starting, like other Hollywood stars such as Reagan and Trump.
 
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