Boxers pad their records and collect paycheques like O Malley does…why isn’t it more common?

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They add up stats and built up a highlight reel KOing scrubs left and right.

O Malley is doing it and building his brand and collecting paycheques.

Most guys get chewed up and spit out by the UFC in a few years screaming for top 5 opponents.

Darren Till is AGAIN headlining against a top 10 opponent when he does not belong there.

He is running his career out and taking a lot of Damage and ruining his record instead of taking out 8-10 scrubs in between good opponents.

PRIDE did it and it was awesome.

Cro Cop kicking Dos Caras Jr.a head off showed what happens when superhumans fight regular people.

Like Spider-Man vs. Regular people.
 
there needs to be a middle ground. it makes boxing boring and fake to me but then the way the ufc matches up most guys again boring and fake maybe this is just sports entertainment now like bro wrestling with real strikes. kinda bs crap ass poopy butt shit
 
One thing with boxing is its one art your studying inside and out. A boxer and his team can look at footage of another boxer and have a very good feeling about who they can beat who may cause problems. This is also why you don't see a bunch of upsets in boxing with fighters coming up through the ranks. In MMA that is a lot harder to do and that is why guys get L's. Also boxing has very defined path to the big shows for the most part. MMA doesn't really have the definitive path to the top. MMA guys make it to the big shows on all kinds of different paths.
 
O'Malley will have to face the music eventually but you are correct, he is building an impressive resume by avoiding the top guys. Guys like Chandler show up with an impressive resume from the B-league and get back-to-back high $$ fights.

Problem is, the fight game is a short career. If you got game, you can't f-ck around, you need to fight the top guys to get a title shot before injuries take their toll. Tough business.
 
I think it's alright to a certain extent. For example, Charles Oliveira.
He was thrown to the wolves early in the UFC and some of those defeats shattered his confidence.

After the Paul Felder loss, he had a significant drop in level of competition. I believe this helped him build up his confidence with each win and let him be more fluid in the octogan.
Eventually being more comfortable with top level competition and becoming champ.

O'Malley is over doing it a bit IMO. I think he should've fought someone like Ricky Simon for this fight instead.
 
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Not everyone is marketable. Can't fault Sean for padding his record, but he's clearly getting a push from the UFC which helps. In this sport you can't choose to pad your record.
 
One of the things the UFC tries to push is that being a UFC fighter means something, that means with some rare exceptions that they can't bring complete cans in for people to beat up.

Tbh a lot of the guys who pad their records fail when they hit decent competition anyway.
 
UFC/MMA dont have 100's of contenders ready, talent pool in boxing is huge, also a lot more divisions to get fighters from.

Nothing wrong with padding a record, thing is...Omalley is the equivalent of a boxing guy that hasnt won shit, has a loss already and is talking shit like he is Canelo Alvarez.
 
UFC/MMA dont have 100's of contenders ready, talent pool in boxing is huge, also a lot more divisions to get fighters from.

Nothing wrong with padding a record, thing is...Omalley is the equivalent of a boxing guy that hasnt won shit, has a loss already and is talking shit like he is Canelo Alvarez.

You can absolutely find random fighters to pad records with if you want to, but it's just not what the UFC does for the most part, but Bellator always roll out random guys to feed to their prospects.
 
Well, the UFC makes the fights and the UFC doesn’t want to pay the guys a lot.
It’s what Jones was complaining about because as a young guy he was pushed into fighting all the top guys while in a low paying contract so he could get to the top but now when he wants big money they tried to have him fight a destroyed like Francis for less than he’s worth and if he loses they will write him off as washed up. Francis will get the same treatment if he loses to Gane because he asked for a bigger cut. Khamzat should pay attention while everyone is trying to get him a title fight before he’s had a chance to build up some credible wins and negotiate a good contract. OMalley is doing it the smart way and treating it like a career.
 
Do those boxers complain about the money when all their beating is outclassed opposition?
 
It depends if the division is deep or not. If they need a star then they will push you. Some younger guys get ruined like Sage and Gall. Kamaru benefited from being held back. He got to develop his game. Sean not fighting bigger names is on him. He lost the fight with Chito. If he won then maybe he would have fought Aldo. This is the second time he stumbled.
 
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Professional boxing and MMA are structured very differently. Boxing promoters are essentially agents who cover the costs associated with promoting and holding a fight. The titles are organized through sanctioning bodies, not promoters, and a boxer can take fights sanctioned by any of the four major or other minor sanctioning bodies regardless of who their promoter is. Fighters are exclusive to a promoter, but fights aren't. Promoters have motivation to pad the records of their fighters to be able to book bigger fights against fighters with other promoters that are money making fights on their own or help push a fighter towards a sanctioning body championship.

In MMA, titles, fighters, and generally fights are exclusive to a promoter. There's no need for a promoter to pad a fighter's record to get better fights when the promoter also promotes all the potential opponents for that fighter and can directly book better fights and title shots.
 
there needs to be a middle ground. it makes boxing boring and fake to me but then the way the ufc matches up most guys again boring and fake maybe this is just sports entertainment now like bro wrestling with real strikes. kinda bs crap ass poopy butt shit
It's always been pro wrestling with real fights.
 
Nobody wants to work their way up. They just want to go straight to the top. Working your way up is the smarter route to go but its also smarter to start young. My big question is why are there so many MMA fighters starting their fighting careers in their late 20's or early 30's? Did they not know about MMA before?
 
  • In boxing, it's not so much about "padding" someone's record (although that definitely happens). It's about building up a young fighter to get them the necessary experience to actually beat more established fighters.
  • I've always thought MMA should take a page out of boxing's book and build up prospects more slowly. But it would require young fighters to fight more often; fighting 2 times a year, which it seems most guys do, isn't enough. I like the idea of fighting 4 or 5 low-level guys in the first year to gain experience and build hype. Then scale things back as you move up the ladder.
  • "Taking out 8-10 scrubs in between good opponents." You're getting carried away, TS.
  • Dos Caras, Jr. isn't a "regular person," TS. Compared to the regular person, Dos Caras, Jr. was a superhuman. The guy was a mountain of muscle and wrestled on the Mexican National Team.
 
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