Did Pereira expose Adesanya and destroy his legacy?

[NEETzschean]

These hot takes on Izzy is ridiculous. Hes a great fighter and may have just run into someone that has his number. Either way it seems like they are pretty evenly matched..Izzy was winning going into the 5th.

Alex has fight changing power and he eventually got to Izzy. Great fight but lets not go overboard and say Izzy was exposed.

How are you "pretty evenly matched" with someone when you're 0-3 against them, 2 by KO? If they have a seemingly competitive 4th fight and then Poatan sparks Izzy late again, are they still "pretty evenly matched"?

 

[Substance Abuse]

Izzy was never that good Pereira also isn't good.

MW is trash. In fact, all the divisions and fighters are overrated and suck

 

[kuroro]

In some respects he already has: he has a better win on his MMA record in 8 fights than Izzy has in 25 and to my knowledge became champion with the fewest ever number of MW MMA fights.

i dunno you're just an mma noob. even if you've been watching mma for twenty years, you have the mind of a noob.

 

[Raptors2019]

No joke. Many responses in this thread are perfect examples.

Just like this one

 

[Substance Abuse]

How are you "pretty evenly matched" with someone when you're 0-3 against them, 2 by KO? If they have a seemingly competitive 4th fight and then Poatan sparks Izzy late again, are they still "pretty evenly matched"?

With these small gloves, the margin for error is so small. They're close in skill but one has more power. It's really that simple in this equation.

 

[kuroro]

I've made these kinds of posts and threads jokingly (OMG, fighter A is EXPOSED!!!); but doing this seriously is truly laughable. Alex is NOT 3-0 against him in MMA, he pulled out a close fight at the very end that could have gone either way in their MMA fight.

lol all these posts about him "only winning with a big size advantage." As if this is UFC 3 where there aren't weight classes.

jfc it was not close. if he didn't ko izzy, he would've lost 4-1. adesanya deserved a 10-8 for round 1 as well. pereira was getting beat up.

 

[TheBulge]

Jake Paul is beating washed up MMA fighters, it's not like he waltzed into boxing proper and KO'd Bivol.

To everyone on fighter's row, Adesanya was representing the UFC, Poatan kickboxing. Whether it's right or wrong, that's how it was seen.

Keep deflecting.

You know that these are your own thoughts. And now you know they're nonsensical with the proper context brought in.

 

[Popnfresh]

jfc it was not close. if he didn't ko izzy, he would've lost 4-1. adesanya deserved a 10-8 for round 1 as well. pereira was getting beat up.

A 10-8 for wobbling a guy after the bell at the end of a competitive round? I have heard some outlandish crazy things in these forums, and this is definitely towards the top of the list. Your boy got finished. The end.

 

[Banana Tree's Nemesis]

1. Pereira ended Izzy's 3 year, 5 consecutive defence MW title reign, having pushed him out of kickboxing 5.5 years prior.

2. Izzy can't be in the conversation for best MMA striker anymore as he's 0-3 (2 by KO) against a kickboxer.

3. Izzy isn't a P4P fighter as he evidently can't win without a large height and reach advantage (Jan, Alex).

4. Izzy's general wrestling/submission game is poor. An elite wrestler (of which there are currently none at MW) would likely beat him; no wrestler worth their salt should be taken down by Alex, or only secure one TD against him as a result of Alex's botched TD.

Most baseless accusations I've seen here so far. Numbering your silly points doesn't increase their validity whatsoever.

1. That's just a history lesson. Defending the MW title 5 times and then losing it can by no means be considered getting 'exposed'.

2. He's actually 0-1 against kickboxers in MMA, since that is what you're referring to.

3. Stupidest point of the bunch. If a fighter happens to be the tallest at a weight, how in the world is it his fault that he has a height and reach advantage. That is an absolutely irrelevant statistic. Relevant is if he's able to win fights. Izzy is, or at the very least was, able to win fights. That's the only thing that matters. Smaller fighters can lose fights, too. Guess that hasn't crossed your mind huh.
Also since you brought it up and apparently do not know, P4P literally means 'pound for pound'. Height and reach are measures of length. Pound is a unit to measure weight.

4. Great point. Joke. You can not blame a fighter for the lack of competition in his weight class. To be the best you gotta beat the best, and if the best are a bunch of second class wrestlers, then it is what it is. Until someone better comes around. But until then that's just pointless trash talk. It's literally the exact same thing as the critique on Islam's and Khabib's striking. Lack of striking ability this, lack of striking ability that. Being the best in the world in one field is a benefit, not a guarantee. Only time will tell.

 

[EugeneFiut]

you can only think that if you didnt watch the fight. pereira was the one getting smoked. his victory is like leon edward's win over usman.

lol, no

 

[NEETzschean]

Pffft Adesanya exposed Pereira. His striking and cardio is nowhere near Adesanya's level, and his grappling defense is nonexistant. Adesanya even showed the limits of his chin, nearly finishing the fight in the first round. All Pereira has is his insane power. Anyone who can keep their hands up, level change, and wrestle to top position will take that belt right off of him.

Lmao, you've got to be trolling. I'll play ball anyway.

1. Pereira outlanded Adesanya 91-86 and knocked him out

2. Pereira KO'd Adesanya in the 5th round in his 5 round and championship debut, which is impossible without good cardio

3. They were 1-1 for TD's. If Pereira has terrible TDD (which he does) then Izzy must have terrible TD offense to fail to exploit it

4. If Pereira has a suspect chin (which would be odd for a two division Glory champ) then Izzy must be featherfisted to have failed to finish him

5. Of course any durable wrestler in the top 10 is likely to beat him; the point is he's exposed Izzy and destroyed his legacy, not that he's a well-rounded mixed martial artist

 

[Dorkman]

Of course it didn't. Izzy was competing in a very close fight with one of the most dangerous guys with strikes on earth. Even had him hurt bad. Alex is the clear winner this weekend sure, but we saw that Izzy has avenues to win there. And it dosen't just erase his run/accomplishments. If it came out he was juiced the entire time, that's the kind of thing that ruins a reputation. But it's mma losses are going to happen eventually if you do it often enough.

 

[OodlesofNoodle]

he was saved by the bell from getting KO'd TWICE. he indisputably lost every single round except round 2, and was hurt and tired for practically the entire fight.

3-1 with him getting the better of the exchanges in rd1 until he got walloped. He connected hard on Izzy way more than he was credited for while the commentary team fellated Adesanya, I'm not saying he wasn't losing I'm saying he wasn't "Smoked"

 

[Paul E Gensinger]

1. Pereira ended Izzy's 3 year, 5 consecutive defence MW title reign, having pushed him out of kickboxing 5.5 years prior.

2. Izzy can't be in the conversation for best MMA striker anymore as he's 0-3 (2 by KO) against a kickboxer.

3. Izzy isn't a P4P fighter as he evidently can't win without a large height and reach advantage (Jan, Alex).

4. Izzy's general wrestling/submission game is poor. An elite wrestler (of which there are currently none at MW) would likely beat him; no wrestler worth their salt should be taken down by Alex, or only secure one TD against him as a result of Alex's botched TD.

My goodness you're right.
His legacy isn't destroyed, it's obliterated!
I even forgot who Iggy was until I saw your thread!
I went to the bathroom and again I forgot who Igzy was until I came back to this thread.
It's kind of like that spiderman movie.
Good thread.

 

[Hdfi]

He still has 5 title defenses and 8 top ten wins, it's the second best resume of MW history.

 

[the big marmot]

It’s a hell of a thing, ko-ing a man. You take away all he’s got and all he’s ever gonna have

if cesare lombroso was right this mf would be the biggest serial killer in the history of brazil

 

[deanambrose]

 

[old school 2]

Pffft Adesanya exposed Pereira. His striking and cardio is nowhere near Adesanya's level, and his grappling defense is nonexistant. Adesanya even showed the limits of his chin, nearly finishing the fight in the first round. All Pereira has is his insane power. Anyone who can keep their hands up, level change, and wrestle to top position will take that belt right off of him.

Nobody ever said Alex was the best striker in MMA but they said that about Izzy. If that were true then he would not get KTFO by a past prime one dimensional striker. Izzy is the one who got exposed. Nobody expected more from Alex.

 

[Lee_]

jfc it was not close. if he didn't ko izzy, he would've lost 4-1. adesanya deserved a 10-8 for round 1 as well. pereira was getting beat up.

I don't know if it was that far apart, I would definitely say Izzy was winning, and could have used better strategy.

 

[old school 2]

you can only think that if you didnt watch the fight. pereira was the one getting smoked. his victory is like leon edward's win over usman.

Except Leon isn’t 3-0 over Usman .