Jamahal Hill vs Vadim Nemkov: Which promotion has the better champion?

[svmr_db]

Who would you favor to win in this hypothetical matchup?

 

[El Fernas]

Nemkov most likely. Hill while fast and somewhat explosive doesnt seems as tested to me, beating Former champ 43 years old Glover is cool but that title was vacant after a draw, if anything he isnt in the top 2 that were supposed to crown the champ.

 

[PrepareForGlory]

You're a UFC shill or somebody that doesn't watch MMA outside of UFC if you think Nemkov isn't a better fighter than Hill.

 

[JustOnce]

I love Nemkov, and I have followed that guy from Rizin. Same with Jiri.

I think that Hill isn't getting the respect he deserves. I don't think Hill faced someone as good as Nemkov, but I wouldn't count Hill out either.

I'm more inclined to think 60/40 Nemkov, but Hill can very well win that.

War Hill! War Nemkov! War Jiri!

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...achiever-in-ufc.4215374/page-6#post-170232461

 

[HuskySamoan]

I actually think Corey Anderson could beat Hill, Anderson isn't 43 and he's a vastly superior wrestler to Glover with a better gas tank and his striking has seriously continued to improve. Nemkov I think is the best 205lber in the world right now, he just seems all around very excellent, almost like a good Welterweight in a LHW's body, it's rare these days to have that kind of well roundedness, technique, athleticism and conditioning at 205lbs. But remember guys, only the best in the UFC.

 

[svmr_db]

You're a UFC shill or somebody that doesn't watch MMA outside of UFC if you think Nemkov isn't a better fighter than Hill.

Agreed. This is the first time in the last few years that I've felt Bellator has the better champion than UFC in any weight class, and that's probably the consensus among most MMA fans.

 

[ExitLUPin]

Bellator's top 10 at LHW is better than UFC's and that's a fact. And Vadim is def the best LHW in the world. That's at least somewhat debatable but Jamahal Hill sure as fuck isn't one of the LHWs to debate against. Jamahil would lose to Vadim, Phil and probably Corey too I say probably Corey because his chin is questionable but he's a more complete fighter all around than Hill without question.

You're a UFC shill or somebody that doesn't watch MMA outside of UFC if you think Nemkov isn't a better fighter than Hill.

This. inb4 bootlickers. They're coming.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Nemkov.

 

[HuskySamoan]

Agreed. This is the first time in the last few years that I've felt Bellator has the better champion than UFC in any weight class, and that's probably the consensus among most MMA fans.

Really goot chance Johnny Eblen of Bellator, Magomedrasul Gasanov of ACA both beat Alex Pereira, like I'd bet money on it. I also think if Volk wins and moves up the winner of Emmett vs Yair is probably a worse Featherweight than Alikhan Suleymanov/Islam Omarov of ACA, maybe worse than Movlid Khaybulaev of PFL too and probably worse than Patricio and Khizriev of Bellator, maybe McKee if we still count him as a Feather and same goes with Parnasse. Amasov and Soldic vs Leon Edwards would be INTERESTING, not sure who I favor there. UFC has the deepest divisions but certainly not all the best fighters, maybe 40-50%. The sport has grown A LOT globally, the talent pools are way deeper and there's a huge world of talent sprawling across Asia the UFC hardly signs. Nemkov over Hill for sure, very possibly Corey Anderson as well. Oh and Flyweight...You consider Moreno better than Mighty Mouse and Kyoji? That's a tough one too. I know you said consensus but I think Mighty Mouse also might get that nod over Moreno/Figgy.

 

[DelanoRunnymede]

Not only is Nemkov better, but Anatoly Malykhin from one is better as well.

 

[svmr_db]

Really goot chance Johnny Eblen of Bellator, Magomedrasul Gasanov of ACA both beat Alex Pereira, like I'd bet money on it. I also think if Volk wins and moves up the winner of Emmett vs Yair is probably a worse Featherweight than Alikhan Suleymanov/Islam Omarov of ACA, maybe worse than Movlid Khaybulaev of PFL too and probably worse than Patricio and Khizriev of Bellator, maybe McKee if we still count him as a Feather and same goes with Parnasse. Amasov and Soldic vs Leon Edwards would be INTERESTING, not sure who I favor there. UFC has the deepest divisions but certainly not all the best fighters, maybe 40-50%. The sport has grown A LOT globally, the talent pools are way deeper and there's a huge world of talent sprawling across Asia the UFC hardly signs. Nemkov over Hill for sure, very possibly Corey Anderson as well. Oh and Flyweight...You consider Moreno better than Mighty Mouse and Kyoji? That's a tough one too. I know you said consensus but I think Mighty Mouse also might get that nod over Moreno/Figgy.

Yeah you're right that Eblen would likely destroy Pereira. I wouldn't count the Mighty Mouse example though since he is weighing in at 135 lbs over in ONE.

 

[Post 2 Decision]

Hill isn't even a top 10 LHW in the world

Paper champ, keeping the belt warm for Jiri

 

[HuskySamoan]

Yeah you're right that Eblen would likely destroy Pereira. I wouldn't count the Mighty Mouse example though since he is weighing in at 135 lbs over in ONE.

Weighing in at 135lbs with the hydration clause, I'd count it. Guys I follow like Felipe Andrade, Shamil Gasanov, Christian Lee etc all were weighing in at 135lbs, 145lbs and 155lbs and then when One instated the hydration policy they just went up 10lbs and called it the same division. Even Soldic vs Murad, both those guys were career 170lbers who were fighting at whatever the fuck, like 180lbs or something? It's hard to follow but these guys can still all comfortably cut the extra weight if they clause wasn't there, they haven't gotten bigger, ya know?

 

[Odoylerules4lyf]

Yeah but who would you take between Ankalaev and Nemkov?

 

[SaigeVanZant]

Really goot chance Johnny Eblen of Bellator, Magomedrasul Gasanov of ACA both beat Alex Pereira, like I'd bet money on it. I also think if Volk wins and moves up the winner of Emmett vs Yair is probably a worse Featherweight than Alikhan Suleymanov/Islam Omarov of ACA, maybe worse than Movlid Khaybulaev of PFL too and probably worse than Patricio and Khizriev of Bellator, maybe McKee if we still count him as a Feather and same goes with Parnasse. Amasov and Soldic vs Leon Edwards would be INTERESTING, not sure who I favor there. UFC has the deepest divisions but certainly not all the best fighters, maybe 40-50%. The sport has grown A LOT globally, the talent pools are way deeper and there's a huge world of talent sprawling across Asia the UFC hardly signs. Nemkov over Hill for sure, very possibly Corey Anderson as well. Oh and Flyweight...You consider Moreno better than Mighty Mouse and Kyoji? That's a tough one too. I know you said consensus but I think Mighty Mouse also might get that nod over Moreno/Figgy.

Mighty Mouse beats Moreno but Moreno beats Horiguchi pretty easy

 

[HHJ]

Nemkov is gonna get the most votes,but Hil needs time to prove himself at that level.

 

[SamuraiBro]

Nemkov looked world class in his last fight. I think Hill could probably KO Corey though.

 

[World eater]

Nemkov vs Prohazka would be quite the fight to make (again). I’m not sure Hill is on that level, but I might be proven wrong because he seems to be improving.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I actually think Corey Anderson could beat Hill, Anderson isn't 43 and he's a vastly superior wrestler to Glover with a better gas tank and his striking has seriously continued to improve. Nemkov I think is the best 205lber in the world right now, he just seems all around very excellent, almost like a good Welterweight in a LHW's body, it's rare these days to have that kind of well roundedness, technique, athleticism and conditioning at 205lbs. But remember guys, only the best in the UFC.

I was talking about this in the worldwides, I think Hill's TDD looks to have improved enough wheres he'd be able to keep it standing long enough to catch the chinny Corey with something.

Davis would be a tougher fight for him than Corey imo, that dude has an iron jaw.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Really goot chance Johnny Eblen of Bellator, Magomedrasul Gasanov of ACA both beat Alex Pereira, like I'd bet money on it. I also think if Volk wins and moves up the winner of Emmett vs Yair is probably a worse Featherweight than Alikhan Suleymanov/Islam Omarov of ACA, maybe worse than Movlid Khaybulaev of PFL too and probably worse than Patricio and Khizriev of Bellator, maybe McKee if we still count him as a Feather and same goes with Parnasse. Amasov and Soldic vs Leon Edwards would be INTERESTING, not sure who I favor there. UFC has the deepest divisions but certainly not all the best fighters, maybe 40-50%. The sport has grown A LOT globally, the talent pools are way deeper and there's a huge world of talent sprawling across Asia the UFC hardly signs. Nemkov over Hill for sure, very possibly Corey Anderson as well. Oh and Flyweight...You consider Moreno better than Mighty Mouse and Kyoji? That's a tough one too. I know you said consensus but I think Mighty Mouse also might get that nod over Moreno/Figgy.

People forget that Movlid got absolutely demolished by the one night juicy version of Daniel Pineda. It wasn't even competitive, I highly doubt he beats Yair or Emmett (though neither of them beat Max assuming he stays in the division)

I wouldn't be too confident in current Mighty Mouse over Moreno either, MM has slowed down a tad.